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Comparison among F-22A F-16 ,J F- 17, Su-35, EF-2000, and RAFALE C

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  1. Darth Vader

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    Comparison among F-22A, Su-35, EF-2000, and RAFALE C f 16 , jf 17

    1. Normal take-off:
    * F-22A: 27,200 kg
    * Su-35: 25,300 kg
    * EF-2K: 17,000 kg
    * Rafale: 15,000 kg
    * jf: 6,586 kg
    * f16: 8,570 kg
    * sukhoi su 30: 17,700 kg

    2 MTOW:
    * F-22A: 28,120 kg
    * Su-35: 34,500 kg
    * EF-2K: 23,500 kg
    * Rafale: 24,500 kg
    * JF 17 : 12,383 kg
    * F 16 : 19,200 kg
    * sukhoi:34,500 kg

    3. Internal Fuel:
    * F-22A: 9,330 kg
    * Su-35: 11,500 kg
    * EF-2K: 5,000 kg
    * Rafale: 4,750 kg
    * Sukhoi: 7300 with internal 2 tanks 9905 with 4 tanks
    * JF 17: 2514
    * F 16: 3430 kg

    4. Maximal Payload:
    * F-22A: unknown
    * Su-35: 8,000 kg
    * EF-2K: 7,500 kg+
    * Rafale: 9,500 kg
    * Sukhoi 7700 kg
    * JF 17 : 3283 kg
    * f 16 : 7000+kg

    5. Maximal Speed, 11,000 m:
    * F-22A: 2.00 Mach+ (2.25 ~ 2.42 Mach)
    * Su-35: 2.25 Mach
    * EF-2K: 2.00 Mach+ (2.25 Mach)
    * Rafale: 1.80 Mach+ (2.00 Mach)

    6. Maximal speed, 200 m:
    * F-22A: 800 kts
    * Su-35: 1,400 km/hr
    * EF-2K: 1.14 Mach
    * Rafale: 750 kts
    * sukhoi 2+ mach
    * f 16 2+mach
    * jf 17 : 1.6 mach

    7. Climb rate:
    * F-22A: 350 m/sec, sea-level
    * Su-35: 280 m/sec+, 1,000 m
    * EF-2K: 315 m/sec+, sea-level
    * Rafale: 305 m/sec+, sea-level
    * F 16 : 254 m/s
    * jf 17 : 249m/s
    * sukhoi : 230 m/s

    8. Operational Altitude:
    * F-22A: 70,000 fts
    * Su-35: 59,000 fts
    * EF-2K: 65,000 fts
    * Rafale: 55,000 fts
    * f 16 : 55,000 fts
    * jf 17: 55,000 fts
    * Sukhoi : 56,800 ft

    9. Ferry range:
    * F-22A: 3,500 km (Internal Fuel)
    * Su-35: 4,500 km (Internal Fuel + 2000 L tanks*2)
    * EF-2K: 2,600 km (Internal Fuel)
    * Rafale: > 2,100 km (Internal Fuel)
    * f16 : 4,220 km
    * jf 17 : 3,482 km


    10. Acceleration:

    * F-22A: unknown.

    * Su-35: 13.8 secs from 600 km/hr to 1,100 km/hr, and 8 secs from 1,100 km/hr to 1,300 km/hr(with 50% internal fuel, standard A-A configuration, and height of 1,000 m).

    * EF-2K: less than 20 seconds from 200 kts to Mach 0.9 (Twin-seaters with one 1,000 L tank and two ASRAAM, altitude unknown).

    * Rafale: around 20 seconds from 300 km/hr to 1,000 km/hr at low altitude.


    11. Normal upper G-limit:
    * F-22A: +9.5G
    * Su-35: +9.0G
    * EF-2K: +9.0G
    * Rafale: +9.0G
    * jf 17 :+8 g
    * f 16 : 9+
    * sukhoi :9+

    12. T/W ratio of normal take-off(AB / Max. Mil.):
    * F-22A: 1.17 ~ 1.30 / 0.85 ~ 0.87
    * Su-35: 1.10 ~ 1.15 / 0.69 ~ 0.70
    * EF-2K: 1.08 ~ 1.14 / 0.72 ~ 0.83
    * Rafale: 1.02 ~ 1.03 / 0.68 ~ 0.69
    *
    13. Take-off with standard A-A configuration:
    * F-22A: 244 m
    * Su-35: 400 to 450 m
    * EF-2K: 228 ~ 275 m(Emergency take-off)to 457 m(Normal take-off).
    * Rafale: 400 m

    14. Landing:
    * F-22A: unknown.
    * Su-35: 650 m(with the help of braking and parachute)
    * EF-2K: 500 to 700 m
    * Rafale: 400 m(with the help of braking only)


    15. Radar's range:

    * F-22A: Tracking target of RCS = 1 m2 at the range of 200 km away --> Detecting target of RCS = 3m2 at the range of 375 to 440 km away theoretically --> 329 ~ 386.

    * Su-35: Detecting target of RCS = 3m2 at the range of 350 to 400 km away --> 307 ~ 351.

    * EF-2K: Tracking target of RCS = 5 m2 at the range of 160 ~ 185 km away --> Detecting target of RCS = 3m2 at the range of 200 to 272 km away theoretically --> 175 ~ 239.

    * Rafale: Detecting target of RCS = 5 m2 at the range of 130 ~ 148 km away --> Detecting target of RCS = 3m2 at the range of 114 to 130 km away theoretically --> 100 ~ 114.

    * F-16c/d block 52s radar's range is about 160 km

    * JF 17s radar`s range is about 105 kms

    * SUK 30 (N011M) has a 400 km search range and a maximum 200 km tracking range, and 60 km in the rear hemisphere

    16. Maximal horizontal scanning angle of Radar:
    * F-22A: +/- 60 degrees
    * Su-35: +/-120 degrees
    * EF-2K: +/- 70 degrees
    * Rafale: +/- 60 degrees



    17. Capability of multiple target engagement:
    * F-22A: Tracking 100 and engaging 6+.
    * Su-35: Tracking 30 and engaging 8.
    * EF-2K: Tracking 20+ and engagine 6 to 8.
    * Rafale: Tracking 40 and engaging 4 to 6.
    * JF: Tracking 40 targets and 2 vbvrs smtlensly
    * Sukho tracking up to 30 targets and engaging 6
    *
    18. Frontal minimal RCS / Ratio of RCS / Ratio of range being detected:
    * F-22A: 0.00015 ~ 0.0006 m2 --> 1 ~ 4 --> 1.00 ~ 1.41
    * Su-35: 1.0 ~ 3.0 m2 --> 6666 ~ 20000 --> 9.03 ~ 11.89
    * EF-2K: 0.1 ~ 0.5 m2 --> 666 ~ 3333 --> 5.08 ~ 7.60
    * Rafale: 0.1 ~ 0.2 m2 --> 666 ~ 1332 --> 5.08 ~ 6.04


    19. : SUKHOI - 35 vs OTHER FIGHTERS

    * Theoretically, F-22A shall be able to detect / track Su-35 at the range of 285 to 440 km / 200 to 308 km away in head to head engagement.
    * Theoretically, Su-35 shall be able to detect / track F-22A at the range of 29 to 48 km / 17 to 34 km away in head to head engagement.

    * Theoretically, EF-2K shall be able to detect / track Su-35 at the range of 153 to 272 km / 107 to 163 km away in head to head engagement.
    * Theoretically, Su-35 shall be able to detect / track EF-2K at the range of 150 to 256 km / 90 to 180 km away in head to head engagement.

    * Theoretically, Rafale shall be able to detect / track Su-35 at the range of 87 to 130 km / 52 to 91 km away in head to head engagement.
    * Theoretically, Su-35 shall be able to detect / track Rafale at the range of 150 to 203 km / 90 to 142 km away in head to head engagement.

    IF SOME THING IS LEFT THEIR IS ALWAYS A NEXT TIME
     
  2. epinephrine

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    source????
     
  3. Pak47

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    lol you're going to use wiki for sources? :lol:
     
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    A small advice as you are new here wiki is not a good source any one can edit it use some other sources
     
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    JF-17 is not bad in comparison. Maybe the new WS-13 engine can improve Climb rate, T/W ratio, and Maximum speed....
     
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    THEIR ISNT MUCH INFO ABT F 22 AND F 35 , AND JF 16 ON OFFICAL SITES AND SUKHOI AND LOCK MRTNS THATS THE OFFICIAL SITE AND ABOUT WIKI THE DATA WHICH IS MSLTY USED ON INTERNET ITS BSCLY FRM WIKI AND OTHER FORUMS IF SOME THING IS WRONG U CAN SEARCH AND TELL ME MY MISTAKE IT WILL INCRSE MY INFO U R MST WELCOME
     
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    FOR EXMPLE ?
     
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    After looking all the information/data .... it becomes clear that JF-17 Thunder is the best aircraft among all others in the list :P
     
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    dude JF-17 can outclimb sukhoi 30... awesome!!!
     
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    Dear Friend IN DOG FIGHT U CAN SAY THAT BUT IN MSLTY CZ THATS A WRONG COMPRNS U CAN MATCH JF 17 WITH F 16 AND SUKH SU 30 BUT OTHERS THEY ARE WAY HEAD CZ U CAN SEE THEIR RADAR THEY CAN HIT US WITHOUT GETING IN OUR RADARS AND WE CANT EVEN LUNCH OUR MISSLE THEY ALSO GOT STEALTH FEATURES SO AS FAR FOR 4TH GENTRTN ITS VERY GOOD BUT IN WAR OUR ENEMIES GONE USE THEIR BEST WEAPONS SO WE NEED A EXTRA PUNCH
     
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    Such discussion have been held before and found fruitless..
    Plus they exist all over the internet apart from def.ok, so you may find your knowledge there as well.
    CLOSED.
     
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