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Chinese PLA intensive drills near India border in Tibet over 4500 meters above the sea level day and night

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When a nation is threatened with Nuke bombs they have every right to acquire nukes to maintain a deterrence. Iran has every right to develop a bomb if Israel has it and if it is targeted by nuke missiles of other countries.
Rights are not based on opinions....you an opining...there is nothing called they have every right.....
the point being discussed here is China helping Iran in developing bomb, ...Iran may proceed with developing on it's own.....that would be a separate issue...but what China is allegedly doing is called nuclear proliferation
 

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Are you surprised? How did N Korea got it's Bomb? Even your own nuclear program has Chinese fingerprints all over.....
Please present us with direct evidence. Why the hell would the Chinese want North Korea to have a nuclear bomb? You do realize a nuclear powered north Korea also poses a major threat to China as well?
 

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Rights are not based on opinions....you an opining...there is nothing called they have every right.....
the point being discussed here is China helping Iran in developing bomb, ...Iran may proceed with developing on it's own.....that would be a separate issue...but what China is allegedly doing is called nuclear proliferation
UK, USA, Russia, France, China etc all proliferate, so it's nothing new. German scientists built the US nukes and US spies provided secrets to the Russians who in turn gave it the Chinese. US and UK proliferated Nukes to Israel and India etc. So not sure what your point is.
 

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UK, USA, Russia, France, China etc all proliferate, so it's nothing new. German scientists built the US nukes and US spies provided secrets to the Russians who in turn gave it the Chinese. US and UK proliferated Nukes to Israel and India etc. So not sure what your point is.
Proliferation is when illegally supporting 3rd country besides one being a signatory of the treaty...German scientist example?...really? that was early days and N Bomb was not even their...China is signatory to N Proliferation treaty .... on US/UK helped India...any evidence or just you opinion again?
 

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This is going to make those hindus pee in their pant, they are weak bunch for sure, coward cesspool dweller is the best word to describe them.
 

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They should just fight it out instead of going up and down with exercises and skirmishes here and there. Both sides doesn't want war as hey know it will have devastating consequences for both sides economically as they are still developing country with many of their people's need to satisfy. So they should calm down and come to some.soetnof agreement or at least status quo and use the time to develop themselves and then they can look into this when they develop more and mature enough to make compromises and come to some sort of agreement.
This Himalayas fight is just irrational. There is always a solution for everything. Just need political.will to do so.
 

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Both sides doesn't want war as hey know it will have devastating consequences for both sides economically as they are still developing country with many of their people's need to satisfy.
There's no "both sides" to this and likening India to China in any way deeply insults China. China is a developing country, India is poor and will remain poor.

The reason China doesn't attack India is something I've come to call the "hedgehog problem". Stepping on a hedgehog would kill it, but you run the risk of getting its spines through your foot. The gain from doing that is trivial (one dead worthless hedgehog) and the cost is potentially high (getting stuck with the spines). China could crush India, but crushing India is worthless since India itself is worthless, and any loss suffered by China no matter how small is too much.

But make no mistake, if India ever decides to do anything other than run its mouth and actually crosses the line, it will be crushed and dismembered without a shred of mercy.
 

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There's no "both sides" to this and likening India to China in any way deeply insults China. China is a developing country, India is poor and will remain poor.

The reason China doesn't attack India is something I've come to call the "hedgehog problem". Stepping on a hedgehog would kill it, but you run the risk of getting its spines through your foot. The gain from doing that is trivial (one dead worthless hedgehog) and the cost is potentially high (getting stuck with the spines). China could crush India, but crushing India is worthless since India itself is worthless, and any loss suffered by China no matter how small is too much.

But make no mistake, if India ever decides to do anything other than run its mouth and actually crosses the line, it will be crushed and dismembered without a shred of mercy.
Well, it's true that India is obviously nowhere close to China's development stage and industrialisation level. However India is China's largest neighbour and the only country on earth to be close to China in size population wise, as such they also have alot of potential going forward due to their sheer size alone. They are expected to overtake China in population a few years from now (some say only 3 years from now) . So it will be bad for China to go to war with such a neighbour and sow the seed for a permanent hostile neighbour which they have to be guarded over 24hrs/7.
China has far more formidable and Powerful enemies on its shores in the Pacific, i.e Japan and the US. China will need several decades of rapid growth to even come close to matching these two powers and standing a chance in any confrontation against these two powerful countries, so adding India as another enemy they need to be more wary of will be another added headache which they shouldn't wish if they think things through.
In fact China is the only major power in the world that is still divided and not unified to this day, since they still haven't resolved the Taiwan issue to this day, which in itself is an embrassement to be honest and a strategic mistake. So the last thing they want is a useless war with India that won't achieve anything significant for them. There is so much they are/will be facing in the Pacific which is and should be their main focus and priority, not some Himalayan rocks which can be solved with some calm heads on both sides. In fact if I was a policy maker in Beijing I will focus on mending ties with India and using my leverage and power over both to act as a mediator in solving the border issues with both India and Pakistan and China itself. This will lead to an ushering of a new age for the region and unlock the untapped potential of this region and gain the country goodwill and another added card to be used against the US.
I think China is actually the country that can help solve the current issue between India and Pakistan . However, they will need to be compromises to be made on each sides, something I'm not sure these countries are at the stage of accepting for now. Probably need alot of time to get to that level though.
 
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You are sending it through Taftaan border too....Material coming in trucks from China is offloaded in Pakistan...then reloaded in Pakistan trucks and transported across the border.... in lieu of Money from China and Oil from Iran. Besides China wanting to form a block of Nuclear armed states (Pak/N Korea/Iran/Russia) around it to safeguard itself....
Your Bothers in Saudi/UAE have been made aware of this by US/Israel...one of the underlying reasons for Gulf countries endorsing Israel is they wary of possibility of Iran making Nuclear Device (by end of this year)....so, they have started fiddling with sectarian fault-lines (Shia-Sunni) to destabilise Pakistan and giving US opportunity to secure your nuclear assets.....
it's not a fantasy...you will see the changes in coming months, in the region.
you must be fun at parties.
 

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You are sending it through Taftaan border too....Material coming in trucks from China is offloaded in Pakistan...then reloaded in Pakistan trucks and transported across the border.... in lieu of Money from China and Oil from Iran. Besides China wanting to form a block of Nuclear armed states (Pak/N Korea/Iran/Russia) around it to safeguard itself....
Your Bothers in Saudi/UAE have been made aware of this by US/Israel...one of the underlying reasons for Gulf countries endorsing Israel is they wary of possibility of Iran making Nuclear Device (by end of this year)....so, they have started fiddling with sectarian fault-lines (Shia-Sunni) to destabilise Pakistan and giving US opportunity to secure your nuclear assets.....
it's not a fantasy...you will see the changes in coming months, in the region.
You need to paint Chinese flag on your forehead, and then lie down on your back and say "Jai China" to welcome your new overloads and Masters the Chinese ! :omghaha:
 

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You need to paint Chinese flag on your forehead, and then lie down on your back and say "Jai China" to welcome your new overloads and Masters the Chinese ! :omghaha:
Mate...is your post anywhere related to mine or it is just a demo of your IQ?
 

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Indians have dealt a Dolklam 2.0 as the days go on by and they sit on those peaks exposing the very Chinese positions they took to be at an advantage. Now you guys can have your videos, global times threats, the drills, even claim of being victims in this echo chamber. I would encourage the wu mao here to continue entertaining all of us with their bluster. :agree:
 

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I don’t foresee a war this season but next summer may heat up again as COVID is brought under control and logistics are built up on both sides. China needs more war games with allies; the best generals of friendly nations commanding Chinese troops in the tactics of the Indians and challenging Chinese units to a full campaign scenario. India should not be underestimated, especially units equipped with Western equipment.

Mountain warfare training with Gurkha units from Nepal would be a good start.
 

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