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The future of naval warfare will likely include lasers, auto-cannons, and hypersonic missiles launched from the other side of the horizon. But while it may not have a defense against frickin' lasers, China's newly unveiled Type 1130 close-in weapon system can make short work of inbound warheads travelling at four times the speed of sound.

It reportedly does so by spewing 10,000 rounds per minute—166 rounds per second—perforating any inbound threat well before it can do any damage to the PLA Type 054A frigate that the 1130 has been installed on. According to the Want China Times, a Chinese news outlet, the Type 1130 carries a pair of 1280-round magazines—enough to shoot down as many as 40 threats before requiring a reload. It's also reportedly quite accurate, notching 90 percent accuracy against hypersonic threats. It can also target fixed wing and rotary aircraft, surface ships, terrestrial targets along a coast, and even sea mines with its 30 mm rounds.

Details on the weapon system are scarce, but if its 6 to 10-barreled predecessors are any indication, the Type 1130 should be able to target threats anywhere from 8 to 20 km out. Due to the limited range of the Gatling gun it employs, however, the system shouldn't actually be able to engage until the threat is right on top of it, around 3 km.

The system is guided by radar, which are what those two dishes are located above the barrel, but due to its weight and power requirements, is limited to large PLA frigates and destroyers. The system has also been spotted on China's newest aircraft carrier, the Liaoning. Future iterations are expected to be installed on China's upcoming Type 055 Destroyer. Combined with the PLA's new WU-14 hypersonic glide vehicle, naval battles may soon be over in the blink of an eye.

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Type1130 CIWS

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I doubt the Type 1130 is very effective in combating hypersonic missiles, especially those that would fly high at first and then perform a dive on a target.

If China produced an 11-barrel high-powered solid-state laser CIWS, then that might have a chance of effectively eliminating a hypersonic anti-ship missile, but an ordinary 30mm rotary-cannon CIWS...

Mmmmmhhhh...
 

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I doubt the Type 1130 is very effective in combating hypersonic missiles, especially those that would fly high at first and then perform a dive on a target.

If China produced an 11-barrel high-powered solid-state laser CIWS, then that might have a chance of effectively eliminating a hypersonic anti-ship missile, but an ordinary 30mm rotary-cannon CIWS...

Mmmmmhhhh...

Ordinary? Its unique and physical rounds fired at 11000 rds/min of 30mm calibre ensure it will build a wall of rds to knock out at incoming projectors.
 
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The future of naval warfare will likely include lasers, auto-cannons, and hypersonic missiles launched from the other side of the horizon. But while it may not have a defense against frickin' lasers, China's newly unveiled Type 1130 close-in weapon system can make short work of inbound warheads travelling at four times the speed of sound.

It reportedly does so by spewing 10,000 rounds per minute—166 rounds per second—perforating any inbound threat well before it can do any damage to the PLA Type 054A frigate that the 1130 has been installed on. According to the Want China Times, a Chinese news outlet, the Type 1130 carries a pair of 1280-round magazines—enough to shoot down as many as 40 threats before requiring a reload. It's also reportedly quite accurate, notching 90 percent accuracy against hypersonic threats. It can also target fixed wing and rotary aircraft, surface ships, terrestrial targets along a coast, and even sea mines with its 30 mm rounds.

Details on the weapon system are scarce, but if its 6 to 10-barreled predecessors are any indication, the Type 1130 should be able to target threats anywhere from 8 to 20 km out. Due to the limited range of the Gatling gun it employs, however, the system shouldn't actually be able to engage until the threat is right on top of it, around 3 km.

The system is guided by radar, which are what those two dishes are located above the barrel, but due to its weight and power requirements, is limited to large PLA frigates and destroyers. The system has also been spotted on China's newest aircraft carrier, the Liaoning. Future iterations are expected to be installed on China's upcoming Type 055 Destroyer. Combined with the PLA's new WU-14 hypersonic glide vehicle, naval battles may soon be over in the blink of an eye.

Say Hello to China's New 11-Barrel Hypersonic Missile Killer

Want China Times is a bogus source.
 

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China Conducts Fifth Test of Hypersonic Glide Vehicle

Maneuvering missile takes evasive actions


An artistic rendering of a hypersonic aircraft / AP


BY: Bill Gertz Follow @BillGertz

August 21, 2015 5:40 pm

China this week carried out another test of a new high-tech hypersonic glide vehicle, an ultra high-speed missile designed to deliver nuclear weapons and avoid defenses.

The latest test of what the Pentagon calls the Wu-14 hypersonic glide vehicle was carried out from the Wuzhai missile test range in central China. The test was judged successful, according to defense officials familiar with details of the event.

Additionally, officials said the glide vehicle, which travels along the edge of the earth’s atmosphere, demonstrated a new capability: evasive actions.

U.S. intelligence agencies have been tracking the Wu-14 since for over a year and have gained valuable insights into the weapon, the officials said.

No additional details were provided on the maneuvering activities of the Wu-14. However, the evasive actions bolstered suspicions that China is building the missile with capabilities designed to defeat U.S. defenses.

Current U.S. defenses are designed to track missiles that travel in predictable flight paths and are unable to counter maneuvering warheads and glide vehicles.

The latest Wu-14 test took place Wednesday.

It was the fifth test of the glide vehicle and the second since June.

The weapon is launched as the last stage of a missile that reaches speeds of around Mach 10, or 10 times the speed of sound—around 7,680 miles per hour.

Military analysts said the Chinese test schedule indicates that China may be close to deploying the high priority weapon.

Earlier flight tests took place this year on June 7 and last year on Jan. 9, Aug. 7 and Dec. 2.

The weapon system and tests were first reported by the Free Beacon.

Asked about the test, Pentagon spokesman Cmdr. Bill Urban said: “We do not comment on PRC weapons tests but we do monitor Chinese military modernization carefully.”

A defense official, however, said the Wu-14 is viewed as a serious emerging strategic threat that could complicate U.S. nuclear deterrent efforts.

“At a minimum this latest test indicates China is likely succeeding in achieving a key design objective: building a warhead capable of withstanding the very high stress of hypersonic maneuvering,” said Rick Fisher, a China military expert. “It is likely that the test vehicle will form the basis for a missile launched weapon.”

“The advent of a Chinese hypersonic weapon may pose the greatest early threat to large U.S. Navy ships,” said Fisher, a senior fellow with the International Assessment and Strategy Center. “The best prospect for a defensive response would be to greatly accelerate railgun development.”

Lora Saalman, an expert on hypersonic technology and former research associate at Carnegie-Tsinghua in Beijing, said the two most recent Wu-14 flights coming within two months are “unprecedented in terms of pace and frequency,” and suggest “a form of qualitative arms racing vis-a-vis the United States.”

“If the intent is for the Wu-14 to be a longer-range system for delivering conventional payloads, then it is likely an effort to extend the range and flexibility of China’s [anti-access, area denial] capabilities beyond that of the DF-21D missile,” she said.

“If this conventional system is mounted to reach an intercontinental range, then it could represent an effort to catch up with or even beat the United States to the punch on its own Conventional Prompt Global Strike aspirations,” Saalman added.

A nuclear-armed Wu-14 is likely intended to defeat U.S. missile defenses, Saalman said. “The difficulty is that each of these eventualities and aims are not necessarily mutually independent, nor are they distinguishable without more technical details on the most recent test,” she said.

Adm. Cecil Haney, commander of the U.S. Strategic Command, warned in a speech last month that hypersonic glide vehicles are new technology weapons that pose an emerging threat. The command is in charge of nuclear forces and missile defenses.

Asked to elaborate on the hypersonic threat, Haney said: “As I look at that threat, clearly the mobility, the flight profile, those kinds of things are things we have to keep in mind and be able to address across that full kill chain,” Haney said. The kill chain is the military term for the process used in targeting and attacking enemy missiles.

Outgoing Strategic Command Deputy Commander Air Force Lt. Gen. James Kowalski, said hypersonic weapon technology “certainly offers a number of advantages to a state,”

“It offers a number of different ways to overcome defenses, whether those are conventional, or if someone would decide to use a nuclear warhead, I think gives it an even more complicated dimension,” Kowalski said during the same conference in Omaha.

Kowalski said so far no hypersonic weapons have been fielded by the Chinese or Russians but “it remains something that concerns us and may be an area of discussion in the future.”

A congressional Chinese commission stated in its annual report last year that China’s hypersonic missile “could render existing U.S. missile defense systems less effective and potentially obsolete.”

China, Russia, and the United States appear engaged in a quiet hypersonic arms race.

Russia tested a hypersonic missile in February.

The Pentagon also is conducting research and development on hypersonic arms, including an Army missile and a glide vehicle and a scramjet-powered hypersonic weapon.

The current version of the House defense authorization bill contains funding and language aimed at pressing the Pentagon to counter hypersonic threats.

One provision calls for adding $291 million for development of a long-range variant of the Army Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, or THAAD.

Bryan Clark and Mark Gunzinger of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments estimate that the United States and Russia are “very close” to having hypersonic arms. China’s glide vehicle appears to be part of anti-access, area denial strategies.

“While ‘boost-glide’ weapons will have long ranges and be highly survivable, but they will also be very expensive,” they told the National Interest. “China could use them as a ‘silver bullet’ weapon to hit high-value targets, or do so in conjunction with less-expensive weapons that reduce the defender’s capacity first.”

Clark and Gunzinger also say that China could use air-launched hypersonic weapons to attack U.S. and allied bases protected by missile defenses.

“U.S. forces will have to think about how they will use point defenses to protect high-value targets,” they stated.

“It is very difficult to defend against hypersonic weapons using our traditional ‘layered’ approach,” said Clark and Gunzinger.

“Since they are going very fast, it will be hard for area air-defense interceptors such as the Navy SM-6 or Army PAC-2 / PAC-3 to catch them unless they are launched from the target’s location.”

“The best defenses against them will likely be high-capacity point defenses such as Rolling Airframe Missile, CIWS and possibly rail guns that are co-located with a target.”

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China Conducts Fifth Test of Hypersonic Glide Vehicle

Maneuvering missile takes evasive actions


An artistic rendering of a hypersonic aircraft / AP


BY: Bill Gertz Follow @BillGertz

August 21, 2015 5:40 pm

China this week carried out another test of a new high-tech hypersonic glide vehicle, an ultra high-speed missile designed to deliver nuclear weapons and avoid defenses.

The latest test of what the Pentagon calls the Wu-14 hypersonic glide vehicle was carried out from the Wuzhai missile test range in central China. The test was judged successful, according to defense officials familiar with details of the event.

Additionally, officials said the glide vehicle, which travels along the edge of the earth’s atmosphere, demonstrated a new capability: evasive actions.

U.S. intelligence agencies have been tracking the Wu-14 since for over a year and have gained valuable insights into the weapon, the officials said.

No additional details were provided on the maneuvering activities of the Wu-14. However, the evasive actions bolstered suspicions that China is building the missile with capabilities designed to defeat U.S. defenses.

Current U.S. defenses are designed to track missiles that travel in predictable flight paths and are unable to counter maneuvering warheads and glide vehicles.

The latest Wu-14 test took place Wednesday.

It was the fifth test of the glide vehicle and the second since June.

The weapon is launched as the last stage of a missile that reaches speeds of around Mach 10, or 10 times the speed of sound—around 7,680 miles per hour.

Military analysts said the Chinese test schedule indicates that China may be close to deploying the high priority weapon.

Earlier flight tests took place this year on June 7 and last year on Jan. 9, Aug. 7 and Dec. 2.

The weapon system and tests were first reported by the Free Beacon.

Asked about the test, Pentagon spokesman Cmdr. Bill Urban said: “We do not comment on PRC weapons tests but we do monitor Chinese military modernization carefully.”

A defense official, however, said the Wu-14 is viewed as a serious emerging strategic threat that could complicate U.S. nuclear deterrent efforts.

“At a minimum this latest test indicates China is likely succeeding in achieving a key design objective: building a warhead capable of withstanding the very high stress of hypersonic maneuvering,” said Rick Fisher, a China military expert. “It is likely that the test vehicle will form the basis for a missile launched weapon.”

“The advent of a Chinese hypersonic weapon may pose the greatest early threat to large U.S. Navy ships,” said Fisher, a senior fellow with the International Assessment and Strategy Center. “The best prospect for a defensive response would be to greatly accelerate railgun development.”

Lora Saalman, an expert on hypersonic technology and former research associate at Carnegie-Tsinghua in Beijing, said the two most recent Wu-14 flights coming within two months are “unprecedented in terms of pace and frequency,” and suggest “a form of qualitative arms racing vis-a-vis the United States.”

“If the intent is for the Wu-14 to be a longer-range system for delivering conventional payloads, then it is likely an effort to extend the range and flexibility of China’s [anti-access, area denial] capabilities beyond that of the DF-21D missile,” she said.

“If this conventional system is mounted to reach an intercontinental range, then it could represent an effort to catch up with or even beat the United States to the punch on its own Conventional Prompt Global Strike aspirations,” Saalman added.

A nuclear-armed Wu-14 is likely intended to defeat U.S. missile defenses, Saalman said. “The difficulty is that each of these eventualities and aims are not necessarily mutually independent, nor are they distinguishable without more technical details on the most recent test,” she said.

Adm. Cecil Haney, commander of the U.S. Strategic Command, warned in a speech last month that hypersonic glide vehicles are new technology weapons that pose an emerging threat. The command is in charge of nuclear forces and missile defenses.

Asked to elaborate on the hypersonic threat, Haney said: “As I look at that threat, clearly the mobility, the flight profile, those kinds of things are things we have to keep in mind and be able to address across that full kill chain,” Haney said. The kill chain is the military term for the process used in targeting and attacking enemy missiles.

Outgoing Strategic Command Deputy Commander Air Force Lt. Gen. James Kowalski, said hypersonic weapon technology “certainly offers a number of advantages to a state,”

“It offers a number of different ways to overcome defenses, whether those are conventional, or if someone would decide to use a nuclear warhead, I think gives it an even more complicated dimension,” Kowalski said during the same conference in Omaha.

Kowalski said so far no hypersonic weapons have been fielded by the Chinese or Russians but “it remains something that concerns us and may be an area of discussion in the future.”

A congressional Chinese commission stated in its annual report last year that China’s hypersonic missile “could render existing U.S. missile defense systems less effective and potentially obsolete.”

China, Russia, and the United States appear engaged in a quiet hypersonic arms race.

Russia tested a hypersonic missile in February.

The Pentagon also is conducting research and development on hypersonic arms, including an Army missile and a glide vehicle and a scramjet-powered hypersonic weapon.

The current version of the House defense authorization bill contains funding and language aimed at pressing the Pentagon to counter hypersonic threats.

One provision calls for adding $291 million for development of a long-range variant of the Army Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, or THAAD.

Bryan Clark and Mark Gunzinger of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments estimate that the United States and Russia are “very close” to having hypersonic arms. China’s glide vehicle appears to be part of anti-access, area denial strategies.

“While ‘boost-glide’ weapons will have long ranges and be highly survivable, but they will also be very expensive,” they told the National Interest. “China could use them as a ‘silver bullet’ weapon to hit high-value targets, or do so in conjunction with less-expensive weapons that reduce the defender’s capacity first.”

Clark and Gunzinger also say that China could use air-launched hypersonic weapons to attack U.S. and allied bases protected by missile defenses.

“U.S. forces will have to think about how they will use point defenses to protect high-value targets,” they stated.

“It is very difficult to defend against hypersonic weapons using our traditional ‘layered’ approach,” said Clark and Gunzinger.

“Since they are going very fast, it will be hard for area air-defense interceptors such as the Navy SM-6 or Army PAC-2 / PAC-3 to catch them unless they are launched from the target’s location.”

“The best defenses against them will likely be high-capacity point defenses such as Rolling Airframe Missile, CIWS and possibly rail guns that are co-located with a target.”

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Best thing to do would be to put these HGV warheads (conventional or nuclear payload) on Submarine-launched ballistic missiles.

If they don't know the point of launch, it becomes almost impossible to counter it, not to mention the significant maneuvering of this platform during flight. And the speed which gives the adversary almost no time at all.

We should be able to attack any major warship if it poses a threat to our interests, even if it is halfway across the globe.
 

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Good,keep going,it seems we will upgrade our whole war system with national defence system ,one hour globle attack system,laser weapon system in 10 years with such development speed. Our national defence system and laser weapon all improve fast.
 

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Best thing to do would be to put these HGV warheads (conventional or nuclear payload) on Submarine-launched ballistic missiles.

If they don't know the point of launch, it becomes almost impossible to counter it, not to mention the significant maneuvering of this platform during flight. And the speed which gives the adversary almost no time at all.

We should be able to attack any major warship if it poses a threat to our interests, even if it is halfway across the globe.

But the US and its allies do know the points of launch. The US Navy likely has an SSN tailing every single Chinese submarine, not to mention the extensive MAD and SOSUS networks to boot. Chinese SSBNs aren't exactly the inconspicuous types and I'm suspecting that is a primary reason why Beijing is so active in developing sophisticated land-based deterrence platforms.
 

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Best thing to do would be to put these HGV warheads (conventional or nuclear payload) on Submarine-launched ballistic missiles.

If they don't know the point of launch, it becomes almost impossible to counter it, not to mention the significant maneuvering of this platform during flight. And the speed which gives the adversary almost no time at all.

We should be able to attack any major warship if it poses a threat to our interests, even if it is halfway across the globe.
For sure we will put it on the DF-41b road mobile ICBM and SSBN Jl-3.
 

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Is this possible to launch it from submarine?

Ballistic missiles are used to carry HGV warheads up to the required speeds. So if the submarine can fire ballistic missiles, I don't see any reason why not.

Though currently there are no BMD systems that are designed to intercept a warhead moving at above Mach 10 speeds, and especially not ones that maneuver constantly during flight, like our HGV does.

So maybe its unnecessary for now. Land platforms are good enough. But its something to aim for in the future.
 

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