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China's AI fighter pilots are 'better than humans' and have DEFEATED them in test flights
By Chris Pleasance for MailOnline09:54 17 Jun 2021, updated 09:59 17 Jun 2021
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  • Chinese fighter pilots are being pitted against plane flown by AI in training
  • Renowned pilot Fang Guoyu was recently 'shot down' by one of the computers
  • Fang said the plane used his own tactics against him, adding that he is not the only flying ace to have been defeated by the machines
  • It is thought AI will eventually be used to aid human pilots during combat
Chinese fighter jets piloted by artificial intelligence are becoming better than humans and routinely defeat pilots in dogfights, the country's military has claimed.

Fang Guoyu, a pilot and aerial combat champion, was recently 'shot down' by one of the craft during a simulated dogfight, according to state-run media.
This is not the first time the renowned Fang was shot down by the AI, and Fang is not the only ace the AI has defeated,' the military-run PLA Daily reported.
China is in the midst of an overhaul of its military that has seen the country upgrade its tanks, missile systems, troop equipment and fighter jets in recent years.

China is using fighter jets flown by AI in training missions and claims they are now capable of defeating human pilots (file image, a Chinese) J-20 stealth fighter
Among the new systems being developed for the country's new J-20 stealth jets is advanced AI, according to the military.

At the moment, the AI is only being used in training missions - a process which commanders say trains the computers to defeat real-life combatants and forces the pilots to come up with new tactics to beat the machines.

'At first, it was not difficult to win against the AI. But by studying data, each engagement became a chance for it to improve,' Fang said.

In the most-recent training session, Fang and his instructors used a tactical battle-plan to beat one of the machines - but only narrowly.

However, in the next mission, the machine had learned the tactics and used them to defeat Fang, the military said.

It is not clear whether China intends to deploy fully AI jets on the battlefield.

But a military spokesman said the technology could be incorporated into jets with a living pilot to assist them during battles.

The technology could help provide them with their best tactical options to accomplish objectives, a spokesman said.
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Fang Guoyu, an aerial combat champion, told state media he was recently 'shot down' by an AI during a simulated dogfight after it learned his tactics and used them against him
China's J-20 stealth fighter began flying in 2016 and was put into military service in 2018, having completed its test-flights.
Thought to have been designed using stolen plans for America's F-35 Lightning stealth jet, the F-20 is equipped with radar-jamming technology and air-to-air missiles, as well as large fuel tanks for long-range flights.

It is just one of a number of upgrades that China has made to its military in recent years as Beijing becomes a more assertive presence on the world stage.

The latest feared weapon is the Xian H-20 supersonic stealth bomber, which is under development by state defence corporation Norinco.
It is thought the bomber will be able to carry nuclear weapons as well as hypersonic cruise missiles, with a range that could allow it to strike US bases in Guam.

'If the aircraft becomes operational, it has the potential to be a game-changer,' Jon Grevatt, a military aviation expert and Asia-Pacific defence analyst previously said.
 

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China's AI fighter pilots are 'better than humans' and have DEFEATED them in test flights
By Chris Pleasance for MailOnline09:54 17 Jun 2021, updated 09:59 17 Jun 2021
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  • Chinese fighter pilots are being pitted against plane flown by AI in training
  • Renowned pilot Fang Guoyu was recently 'shot down' by one of the computers
  • Fang said the plane used his own tactics against him, adding that he is not the only flying ace to have been defeated by the machines
  • It is thought AI will eventually be used to aid human pilots during combat
Chinese fighter jets piloted by artificial intelligence are becoming better than humans and routinely defeat pilots in dogfights, the country's military has claimed.

Fang Guoyu, a pilot and aerial combat champion, was recently 'shot down' by one of the craft during a simulated dogfight, according to state-run media.
This is not the first time the renowned Fang was shot down by the AI, and Fang is not the only ace the AI has defeated,' the military-run PLA Daily reported.
China is in the midst of an overhaul of its military that has seen the country upgrade its tanks, missile systems, troop equipment and fighter jets in recent years.

China is using fighter jets flown by AI in training missions and claims they are now capable of defeating human pilots (file image, a Chinese) J-20 stealth fighter
Among the new systems being developed for the country's new J-20 stealth jets is advanced AI, according to the military.

At the moment, the AI is only being used in training missions - a process which commanders say trains the computers to defeat real-life combatants and forces the pilots to come up with new tactics to beat the machines.

'At first, it was not difficult to win against the AI. But by studying data, each engagement became a chance for it to improve,' Fang said.

In the most-recent training session, Fang and his instructors used a tactical battle-plan to beat one of the machines - but only narrowly.

However, in the next mission, the machine had learned the tactics and used them to defeat Fang, the military said.

It is not clear whether China intends to deploy fully AI jets on the battlefield.

But a military spokesman said the technology could be incorporated into jets with a living pilot to assist them during battles.

The technology could help provide them with their best tactical options to accomplish objectives, a spokesman said.
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Fang Guoyu, an aerial combat champion, told state media he was recently 'shot down' by an AI during a simulated dogfight after it learned his tactics and used them against him
China's J-20 stealth fighter began flying in 2016 and was put into military service in 2018, having completed its test-flights.
Thought to have been designed using stolen plans for America's F-35 Lightning stealth jet, the F-20 is equipped with radar-jamming technology and air-to-air missiles, as well as large fuel tanks for long-range flights.

It is just one of a number of upgrades that China has made to its military in recent years as Beijing becomes a more assertive presence on the world stage.

The latest feared weapon is the Xian H-20 supersonic stealth bomber, which is under development by state defence corporation Norinco.
It is thought the bomber will be able to carry nuclear weapons as well as hypersonic cruise missiles, with a range that could allow it to strike US bases in Guam.

'If the aircraft becomes operational, it has the potential to be a game-changer,' Jon Grevatt, a military aviation expert and Asia-Pacific defence analyst previously said.
had to happen sooner or later. expert machines ("AI") can respond faster than humans and aren't burdened by fear of dying.

however, it's one thing to test expert machines against your own pilots (human/expert machine), it'll be a lot harder to gain the necessary experience data to beat those of rival nations, which can only be done by (cyber-)spying and subsequent testing.
 

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I suppose the next stage is getting the AI jets to fight each other for practice and also have pilots in simulators fighting the AI. See how well the AI can be trained. What does it do in situations which go against the expected behaviour? Like for example if an enemy starts flying straight into the ground? idk if that is even possible.
 
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The western Murican LowLifer article writer / SLAVE above -- has never forgotten to put in the OBLIGATORY comments that Murican tech was stolen.

Murican do not have the tech yet.
So how can the tech be stolen from Murica ??

Where is the BASIC LOGIC of all these western Murican LowLifer article writers ??

Soon, the Murican who has been underreporting its COVID death toll of 600,000+ deaths --- will report significantly increased COVID death from the INDIAN * Quad 4 * Mutation variant.
 

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The western Murican LowLifer article writer / SLAVE above -- has never forgotten to put in the OBLIGATORY comments that Murican tech was stolen.

Murican do not have the tech yet.
So how can the tech be stolen from Murica ??

Where is the BASIC LOGIC of all these western Murican LowLifer article writers ??

Soon, the Murican who has been underreporting its COVID death toll of 600,000+ deaths --- will report significantly increased COVID death from the INDIAN * Quad 4 * Mutation variant.
You know that when you steal something from someone, it means that the stolen person no longer owns them.

Therefore, it is normal for Americans not to have these technologies.

Our stealth technology is like cloth, and America's like paint. Therefore, air bubbles often appear in American airplanes.
 

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The western Murican LowLifer article writer / SLAVE above -- has never forgotten to put in the OBLIGATORY comments that Murican tech was stolen.

Murican do not have the tech yet.
So how can the tech be stolen from Murica ??

Where is the BASIC LOGIC of all these western Murican LowLifer article writers ??

Soon, the Murican who has been underreporting its COVID death toll of 600,000+ deaths --- will report significantly increased COVID death from the INDIAN * Quad 4 * Mutation variant.
Precisely, like american fanboy say China stole American 5G when Huawei and ZTG file most 5G patent tech while american one are almost no where to be seen...

The american nowadays are only capable of lying. They have no moral and then the american will malign Chinese of lying. How low these American get?
 

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Precisely, like american fanboy say China stole American 5G when Huawei and ZTG file most 5G patent tech while american one are almost no where to be seen...

The american nowadays are only capable of lying. They have no moral and then the american will malign Chinese of lying. How low these American get?
Americans are more crafty version of Indians, master of lies and scams.China and whole of asia-pacific should educate profiling of nations and their residents in subtle manner with smart world selections .Not just china,but whole of asia's one of the weak point is miss reading the characters of people from west and other parts of the world ,even from from south asia,resulting in spread of wasteful cult like buddhism. China's civilization shaped by confucious is based on benevolence,japan's loyalty meanhwile the west and other parts of the world are completely different,and very dangerous
 

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You know that when you steal something from someone, it means that the stolen person no longer owns them.

Therefore, it is normal for Americans not to have these technologies.

Our stealth technology is like cloth, and America's like paint. Therefore, air bubbles often appear in American airplanes.
tsh tsk... so much self glorification.... using stolen technology... nothing to be proud of.
 

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tsh tsk... so much self glorification.... using stolen technology... nothing to be proud of.
oh, buddy. If you don’t even understand me, what should you do when the real Chinese internet trolls come out?
 

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oh, buddy. If you don’t even understand me, what should you do when the real Chinese internet trolls come out?
simple, i have a good size fly swatter to squash those bugs. there is a big hole waiting for them on my farm. if they have the balls they can come here.
 

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had to happen sooner or later. expert machines ("AI") can respond faster than humans and aren't burdened by fear of dying.

however, it's one thing to test expert machines against your own pilots (human/expert machine), it'll be a lot harder to gain the necessary experience data to beat those of rival nations, which can only be done by (cyber-)spying and subsequent testing.
This is more about giving Chinese fighter pilots to exposure better competition. By practicing against a superior opponent in training , the pilots when they go to war will have easier time against human opponents.

This is all about upscaling the skill levels of the Chinese pilots then Using the AI pilots for war.

Although during war AI pilots maybe used as a reinforcement or force multiplier for human pilots during dangerous missions .

IAF will be target practice for the PLAAF unfortunately.
 

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