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China’s New Aircraft Carrier Lacks Fighter Jets

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China launched its new Type 003 aircraft carrier Fujian on June 17 in Shanghai, touting that its electromagnetic aircraft launch system (EMALS) is on par with the latest U.S. Ford-class aircraft carrier.

However, to support the claim that the EMALS catapult of Type 003 is really effective, a considerable number of carrier-based aircraft are required for take-off and landing tests—which is precisely a major deficiency of the Fujian and the embarrassment of the Chinese navy.

China currently lacks sizable carrier-based aircraft such as carrier-based fighter jets, airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft, electronic-warfare (EW) aircraft, maritime patrol aircraft (MPA), and military transport aircraft

Is J-15B Ready for the Type 003 Aircraft Carrier’s EMALS?
Though equipped with advanced EMALS catapults, the Fujian lacks enough fighter jets and other carrier-based aircraft, which is one of its most vulnerable points.
China’s jet fighter J-15, a reverse-engineered copy of the former Soviet Sukhoi Su-33, is currently China’s only carrier-based fighter jet. The J-15B is rumored to be a production-ready CATOBAR (catapult-assisted take-off but arrested recovery) variant of the J-15 as part of the air wing of the Type 003 carrier.

The Liaoning and the Shandong aircraft carriers have conducted the takeoff and landing training of the J-15 on the traditional ski jump-assisted short takeoff launch systems.

Being the heaviest carrier-based fighter in service, the J-15 has difficulty taking off from the ski-jump deck of these two carriers, and it cannot take off with a full load of fuel and weaponry; otherwise, it may face the risk of falling into the sea.
The empty weight of the J-15 is about 17.5 tons (38,581 lbs). Its closest international approximation would be the U.S. F/A-18E Super Hornet, whose empty weight is about 14.6 tons (32,187 lbs).
The Russian navy ordered the MiG-29K as a replacement for the Su-33 in 2009, with the weight of the Su-33 being one of the reasons it has been retired.

In May, China’s first aircraft carrier Liaoning conducted drills in the Philippine Sea and Okinawa waters, with the J-15 taking off and landing multiple times. Pictures taken by the Japanese Self-Defense Force show that the J-15 only carried air-to-air missiles, apparently to ensure the safety of takeoff and landing, but revealing that the Liaoning and the Shandong could not carry out sea or ground attacks and had no naval combat capability.
The launch of the Fujian aircraft carrier should give the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) some hope that if the electromagnetic catapult works, the J-15 may be able to take off with a full load of fuel and weaponry, which will significantly increase its combat capability. However, even if it were true, the Type 003 aircraft carrier would still need several years of field testing, and the core catapult test would require many carrier-based aircraft.

In 2020, the CCP revealed that the J-15B, an advanced variant of J-15, was under development and ready to join the Fujian air wing. According to the Chinese regime’s state-run mouthpieces, the catapult connecting rod is installed in the J-15B’s nose part, and some structural and material reinforcements have been carried out, hoping that the EMALS catapult can solve the J-15’s overweight issue. It also abandoned the Russian-made engine and switched to the domestic WS-10 engine.

However, amid the state-run media’s recent boasting about the Fujian, it’s noteworthy that the J-15B that was expected to accompany the carrier’s launch did not appear in the media.

China has a total of 34 J-15 fighter jets as of August 2021, according to Japan’s 2021 defense white paper. From open sources and publications, the Liaoning is said to be capable of carrying 24 fighter jets, the Shandong is capable of carrying 32, while the Fujian is capable of carrying 40. It seems there aren’t enough jets for testing and training on the three carriers China now has.When the Liaoning was dispatched again in May this year, a maximum of nine jets were visible on the deck.

The Chinese navy’s dilemma is that it has to hasten the production of J-15B for the Fujian while continuing with the production of J-15 for the other two carriers. Additional equipment and carrier-based aircraft cannot be shared among the three carriers. In addition, the Fujian requires regular maintenance. Once it is back at the shipyard, a series of carrier-based aircraft can only be on standby on land. The Fujian Has No Complete Air Wing Yet
The standard air wing of the U.S. aircraft carrier is generally composed of 80 to 90 aircraft, including 48 F/A-18E/F or F-35C fighters, four to six E-2 Hawkeye airborne early warning (AEW) aircraft, four to six E/A-18 Growler electronic warfare aircraft, anti-submarine, and transport aircraft, and search and rescue helicopters. The Chinese navy’s Type 003 is far from a complete air wing.

First of all, its J-15B has no official launching date yet. Another potential fighter jet, known initially as the FC-31, now renamed the FC-35, is still being developed.

China’s carrier-based AEW should be the Shaanxi KJ-600, which has not been officially released.

The CCP’s carrier-based electronic warfare aircraft is said to be the J-15D, an improved variant of the J-15.

The use of carrier-based helicopters has just started, and it will also take time to form a complete auxiliary fleet.With the numerous land-based and carrier-based testing and training of the various aircraft, it may take at least three to five years for the Chinese navy to form a complete aircraft carrier fleet. If any of the tests fail to meet the requirements, it will take an even longer time.

Conclusion
China boasts of having three aircraft carriers. But two are copies of former Soviet Union-era technologies, which are considered obsolete, and the third is a copy of U.S. technologies. However, except for the electromagnetic catapults deliberately hidden on the Fujian, there is nothing special about the latest carrier. It is still at the initial stage of imitating U.S. technology.The CCP’s various types of carrier-based aircraft seem to have fallen behind schedule and have not yet been ready, which is one of the major issues with the testing of Type 003 EMALS catapults.

The Chinese navy’s task of copying the U.S. aircraft carrier has just begun.
 

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This is a good example of how copying someone's homework doesn't mean you understand the material. The US carriers that use EM catapults are nuclear powered, meaning there is almost an unlimited amount of electrical power available and makes sense.Nuclear-powered Ford and Nimitz-class ships have much more free storage capacity so they can store more jet fuel, weapons, and so on. While the Chinese carrier is fossil fueled so it normally would have an excess amount of steam and therefore should use steam catapults instead. The EM cats require vast amounts of electricity, meaning you'll be stressing the boilers to drive generators for electricity (losing efficiency) to use the cats. This will limit the sortie rates and cause more frequent fuel replenishment (thus limiting range or station time). This carrier is far from being operational anytime soon. The Chinese do have experience with carrier operations they have been for the past 10 years. But going from a ramp style to a catapult launch system is a very large step and one they are not familiar with.
US navy has been using catapult launch for decades and are the best in the world in carrier operations. Not just in ship board operations but also in aviation operations. China's propulsion technology is still several generations behind. There are speculations that Chinese pays the German for Maglev, in order to obtain technologies for EM propulsion, to put it in military applications.

The US has EM catapult also but rumors says that it breaks down after very short hours of use.
 

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Conclusion
China boasts of having three aircraft carriers. But two are copies of former Soviet Union-era technologies, which are considered obsolete, and the third is a copy of U.S. technologies. However, except for the electromagnetic catapults deliberately hidden on the Fujian, there is nothing special about the latest carrier. It is still at the initial stage of imitating U.S. technology.The CCP’s various types of carrier-based aircraft seem to have fallen behind schedule and have not yet been ready, which is one of the major issues with the testing of Type 003 EMALS catapults.

The Chinese navy’s task of copying the U.S. aircraft carrier has just begun.

China should negotiate with India to buy the Indian jets that are being deployed on India's aircraft carrier. Defending the threat on the eastern fronts is more important than fight with India over some unmanned rocks. Perhaps China should give India whatever it wants to rebuild a long-standing friendship since 3000 years ago. :)

China should buy LCA Tejas from India 🐶🐶🙏🙏🙏

That's what I suggest. But my suggestion was long and my typing slow. How could you steal my idea?
 

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China should negotiate with India to buy the Indian jets that are being deployed on India's aircraft carrier. Defending the threat on the eastern fronts is more important than fight with India over some unmanned rocks. Perhaps China should give India whatever it wants to rebuild a long-standing friendship since 3000 years ago. :)



That's what I suggest. But my suggestion was long and my typing slow. How could you steal my idea?
🙏🙏 🙏 🐶 🐶 🐶

LOL, The Epoch Times! :coffee:
which is full of $hit. CIA should give money to me, I can do a better propaganda.
 

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which is full of $hit. CIA should give money to me, I can do a better propaganda.


If posters 1-3 represent the average intellect of their English speaking population (top 15% of the total I assume?), India is basically hopeless. They are not capable of logical thinking, let alone critical one.
 

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These IQ82 Indians can't even find the right direction to discredit China.

I can tell you frankly that China not lack any industrial products, whether warships or aircraft. What the Chinese Navy really lacks is people, qualified carrier aircraft pilots and a sufficient number of excellent naval officers.

With the rapid expansion of the Chinese Navy, China is facing the problem of naval talents.
 

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These IQ82 Indians can't even find the right direction to discredit China.

I can tell you frankly that China not lack any industrial products, whether warships or aircraft. What the Chinese Navy really lacks is people, qualified carrier aircraft pilots and a sufficient number of excellent naval officers.

With the rapid expansion of the Chinese Navy, China is facing the problem of naval talents.

With the exodus of those with above average IQ, the new number now is 76.
 

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With the exodus of those with above average IQ, the new number now is 76.
According to the standards issued by the China Social Security Bureau:
IQ155 and above are outstanding people.
IQ125 to 155 are high IQ people.
IQ105 to 125 are excellent people.
IQ85 to 105 are normal people,
IQ85 and below are mentally handicapped people.

It's terrible. If these Indians come to China, they will be considered disabled, and then they will enjoy the monthly disability allowance issued by the Chinese govt.

1.4 billion mentally handicapped people, too terrible. I'll have nightmares.
 

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According to the standards issued by the China Social Security Bureau:
IQ155 and above are outstanding people.
IQ125 to 155 are high IQ people.
IQ105 to 125 are excellent people.
IQ85 to 105 are normal people,
IQ85 and below are mentally handicapped people.

It's terrible. If these Indians come to China, they will be considered disabled, and then they will enjoy the monthly disability allowance issued by the Chinese govt.

1.4 billion mentally handicapped people, too terrible. I'll have nightmares.

Meanwhile in the REAL WORLD.

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India is leading the chart of reading time.

This is especially impressive in our time and age when people avoid diving deep into facts.
 

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