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China's 'nastier Rise' Will Affect Those Cheering America's Decline: South Asian Expert

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Really, if it's true, which I highly doubt, she can switch to Weixin or Alipay.
When the US sanctions an official, that means banks will stop dealing with that person, that is whatever payment application that's available, if it wants to avoid getting US treasury sanctions should stop transactions after some time. That's how the US exerts power, through their banking and financial structure, ask them Iranians.

You didn't think it through.
 

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When the US sanctions an official, that means banks will stop dealing with that person, that is whatever payment application that's available, if it wants to avoid getting US treasury sanctions should stop transactions after some time. That's how the US exerts power, through their banking and financial structure, ask them Iranians.

You didn't think it through.
So her account was frozen? didn't see that news. nothing can be taken for granted.
 

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lol @ Chinese sanctions these botfarm trolls talk about, what critical technology we use that will be impacted by Chinese sanctions? Meanwhile, when the US sanctioned HK Chief Executive, She was bragging, "I got no house in the US", then her bank and credit card stopped working. :sarcastic:
:rofl: :rofl: :laugh:
 

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What's new, they are all western countries, when was the last time they support China?
Don't play the victim card now. As I said before, the west propped up China thinking someday, they would be a democracy and not klu klux dictatorship and they're reaping what they saw. Believe me, I have zero sympathies for the west. But a world dictated by commie craps will be the worst. So, no thank you.
 

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Don't play the victim card now.
Who played victim? the west is the victim, I actually agree, but , tough luck, too bad for them. God saves America.
The point being, China is still so far away from wielding that kind of power, god forbid.
Why China needs to do this, we are never like a colonial power like the west, and never share the same mentality.
 

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Who played victim? the west is the victim, I actually agree, but , tough luck, too bad for them. God saves America.

Why China needs to do this, we are never like a colonial power like the west, and never share the same mentality.
The definition of victim card, is saying, "Afterall the west don't want to see us getting powerful", after enjoying so much trade favors from the west, that's kind of an ironic statement.

Because China has a habit of using it, be it during the REM exports when it comes to Japan, and that's when China was not even a major power imagine what will happen if she has more powers. 10X worse than the US and powerful. China is anything but a peaceful power. The sooner we find ways to undermine them the better.
 

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The definition of victim card, is saying, "Afterall the west don't want to see us getting powerful", after enjoying so much trade favors from the west, that's kind of an ironic statement.

Because China has a habit of using it, be it during the REM exports when it comes to Japan, and that's when China was not even a major power imagine what will happen if she has more powers. 10X worse than the US and powerful. China is anything but a peaceful power. The sooner we find ways to undermine them the better.
So the west deliberately propped up China and cutting down India in the past 4 decades? Why only China rises but not other developing nations? China reach this level of development by hard working and highly disciplined population, forward looking massive investment in education, infrastruction mainly on connectivity and IT technology, you can take your complaint to the west asking why they only helped China but India.
Don't sound like the west came to China for charity, they came for money and they got more than enough, it's purely business based.
 
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there was never any promise on Warsaw Pact countries. They are independent states free to do what they want. They do not like Soviet behavior in the past.

The Russian voters do not care about the past. Given the chance and money they vacation in the French Riveria, shop in London.

Foxconn owns the Apple's factories. Technically they are not Chinese. What good is a factory without orders ?
Russian voters care even less about some obscure 1969 battle that killed a few hundred soldiers and resulted in 10 km2 of land changing hands.

They care greatly about their savings being trashed by sanctions and shock therapy.

Foxconn is only one Apple supplier, Apple is only one company, and Foxconn is just an assembler. Even now, Apple is moving business from Foxconn to Luxshare - which is fully Chinese owned and is already a multi billion dollar company.

Then you have actual competitors, not just suppliers, like Huawei, ZTE, Alibaba, Tencent, Baidu, etc.

Then outside of electronics you have businesses like PetroChina, Sinopec, State Grid, CRRC, Baosteel and others which provide the industrial basis for all the export industries.

They're irreplaceable and don't depend on exports.

For an example of how far behind Vietnam is: Vietnam doesn't even have a single steel mill that produces stainless steel.

China produced every grade of stainless including 304, 316, duplex, ferritic and maraging steels. These advanced alloys are far more expensive than the carbon steel that Vietnam produces, up to 100x more valuable.

Without stainless steel, you can't make essentially any advanced industrial products ranging from semiconductor equipment to power plants to pharmaceuticals, because of the extreme requirements for anticorrosion, purity and strength that stainless offers. And that is just stainless steel, a material from 1840s.

That's how far ahead China is.
 

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So the west deliberately propped up China and cutting down India in the past 4 decades? Why only China rises but not other developing nations? China reach this level of development by hard working and highly disciplined population, forward looking massive investment in education, infrastruction mainly on connectivity and IT technology, you can take your complaint to the west asking why they only helped China but India.
Don't sound like the west came to China for charity, they came for money and they got more than enough, it's purely business based.
haha why do you want to bring India into it? Did I say India was cut off from the west to prop up China? China reached this level because the communists removed the red tape that was in place during the Mao era. India opened up its economy much later, a decade late. The point being, China shed it's communist and socialistic characteristics much earlier, has a pool of large populations together with resources. It's not some ultra high-level Chinese specialty, almost all newly industrialized countries experience a spurt in growth.

Whatever be the reason, China has zero right to diss the west in any way. You were in bed with them and for good reason. I have no qualms with the general Chinese population, they are nice and hard-working, just like any other people in the world. My problem is with the commies.
 
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haha why do you want to bring India into it? Did I say India was cut off from the west to prop up China? China reached this level because the communists removed the red tape that was in place during the Mao era. India opened up its economy much later, a decade late. The point being, China shed it's communist and socialistic characteristics much earlier, has a pool of large populations together with resources. It's not some ultra high-level Chinese specialty, almost all newly industrialized countries experience a spurt in growth.

Whatever be the reason, China has zero right to diss the west in any way. You were in bed with them and for good reason. I have no qualms with the general Chinese population, they are nice and hard-working, just like any other people in the world. My problem is with the commies.
If India is just 10 years behind China due to opening up later why is India's economy smaller than China's 10 years ago?

Why are India's health indicators worse than China's during the 1970s?

Why does India have no leading brands like Huawei, ZTE, Baidu, Alibaba and Tencent?

China's first commercial semiconductor fab was SMIC, founded in 2000. Where's India's commercial fab?

Chinese companies have designed multiple leading edge processors like the Kirin series. Where's a single Indian processor? Not leading edge... Just... Even a university project?

India is behind even North Korea in literacy and aerospace engineering. North Korea has far higher literacy than India and a much further ranged ICBM (Hwasong 15) than Agni 5.

India has a lower GDP per capita than even Nigeria.

For India to even think about catching up with China it has to first catch up with Nigeria and North Korea.
 

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With millions of Hispanic migrants, 10s of millions of twerking Negroes with a deft ability to come under policemens boots or run into hail of police bullets
Woe...I didn't know racism was an admired trait here. To think so many people actually liked your post.
So it's a bad thing to be racist against you people but it's perfectly ok when it's you guys being racists against others (and blacks for that matter, people who never offended you guys in history). Interesting.
 

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The author seems to think that China is challenging america for control. It's the opposite, since it is america with close to a thousand military bases and installations around the world. It is america that has thousands of military personnel and hardware in Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Diego Garcia and Australia. Not China having any military bases in Cuba, Venezuela, or Mexico. It is america that has warships roaming in South China Sea, Sea of Japan and indian Ocean, not China's warships in Guam, the North Atlantic Ocean or the Gulf of Mexico.

America is a product of colonization by zionist-britain, zionist-france, zionist-netherlands and zionist-germany. While China is a civilization, thousands of years old that has not colonized any part of the world. So making comparisons or declarations about what is or what will be, regarding america's superiority, is a bit childish and amateurish.

The author also fails miserably to recognize the fact that america's economy is contracting, millions of americans are unemployed, while Wall Street rallies keep going up on the back of corporate tax cuts and the government spends $1.3 trillion on the military. No, not Russia or China would not invade america, but one thing is dead certain, america would collapse under its own weight of spiralling debt, mass unemployment, corporate b@$tards getting filthy rich and the zionist-parasites finally plunging the country into civil war that in turn would lead global war.

As for China, well so long as it is not controlled or coerced by zionists, the rest of the world will keep cheering on its rise. For if China becomes another america, france or britain, then be sure the zionists have their tentacles embedded in the country. Having said that, China is not america, britain or france. The Chinese civilization has experienced the scourge of zionist's ancestors, and this country it's people aren't stupid, or gullible or vain enough to be controlled by zionists.
So it's all about the zionists. Ok no surprise there. Lol.
 

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So it's all about the zionists. Ok no surprise there. Lol.
Not the least bit surprised by your comment either. Pretty plain, predictable and sedated. That's how the West has become, when reading or hearing about zionists. Either that, or you're one of them roaming on this forum.

Come to think of it, you couldn't be anyone from the West. Most likely a zit-faced indiot with mommy issues, scrubbing your time on the internet.
 

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