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China's 'nastier Rise' Will Affect Those Cheering America's Decline: South Asian Expert

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We'll see, China is still rising fast and US same speed but declining, we'll see where China and US will be at in the next 5-10 years, Indian cheerleaders don't have to be so eager to make Indian style predictions now, lol..
US is not 'declining'. They are SURGING in ways that the world has not seen yet.
1) You're talking about going to the moon? They're going to mars, built spaceships, have rockets that return and land on their own.
2) The whole world was talking about 'oil wars'. They reinvented the whole goddamn thing and made electric vehicles the vogue. Now they're moving to make aviation all electric (I don't even know what the hell it means)
3) Do you understand the implications of the vaccine moderna is developing for COVID? If it turns out to be succesful, three average tankers worth of that thing is enough to vaccinate the whole goddamn planet

4) They have already started test flights of their sixth gen fighter

This is not 'lead'. This is something else- they're not even bothering to tell the world how far ahead they are.
 

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US is not 'declining'. They are SURGING in ways that the world has not seen yet.
This is not 'lead'. This is something else- they're not even bothering to tell the world how far ahead they are.
Cheerleaders have to know that they themselves admit that they are declining and they themselves admit that China is rising fast, cheerleaders have to face the reality.
 

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Cheerleaders have to know that they themselves admit that they are declining and they themselves admit that China is rising fast, cheerleaders have to face the reality.
do you have a counter to their accomplishments man?
a) do you have spacecraft capable of going to mars today. (your vehicles are still based on 1960s soyuz)
b) Are you reinventiing with world of transportation by making it electric or completely redifining it with Hyperloop?
c) Do you have anything similar to what moerna is doing in pharma?

Being patriotic is one thing. but not accepting the accomplishments of others is just petty. Not that it matters to them. They're in a different league to the rest of the world.
 

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do you have a counter to their accomplishments man?
a) do you have spacecraft capable of going to mars today. (your vehicles are still based on 1960s soyuz)
b) Are you reinventiing with world of transportation by making it electric or completely redifining it with Hyperloop?
c) Do you have anything similar to what moerna is doing in pharma?

Being patriotic is one thing. but not accepting the accomplishments of others is just petty. Not that it matters to them. They're in a different league to the rest of the world.
We never said we are fully overtaking US, We are only saying that we are moving ahead based on our plan and agenda, and we are moving fast. US is relatively declining comparing to China and we are going to have a bigger economy and market in the not very far future. When did I say that we already beat US in everything?
 

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We never said we are fully overtaking US, We are only saying that we are moving ahead based on our plan and agenda, and we are moving fast. US is relatively declining comparing to China and we are going to have a bigger economy and market in the not very far future. When did I say that we already beat US in everything?
oh stop the tosh, you are not 'fully' or 'partially' overtaking them. you don't have any plan except being seen as competing with them. And they don't have any plan of competing with anyone either. They're now operating at a level where even the lead they had in the 20th century seems to be below the mark. They're in the 'zone'- fully occupied with their own objectives and relentlessly pursuing them. They don't need to steal IP, they just create them. They're an example for the whole world to learn from.
 

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oh stop the tosh, you are not 'fully' or 'partially' overtaking them. you don't have any plan except being seen as competing with them. And they don't have any plan of competing with anyone either. They're now operating at a level where even the lead they had in the 20th century seems to be below the mark. They're in the 'zone'- fully occupied with their own objectives and relentlessly pursuing them. They don't need to steal IP, they just create them. They're an example for the whole world to learn from.
US themselve admit they are decling agaisnt China and based on the lastest poll most European countries already think China the top economic power instead of US, that's a fact and why you cheerleader Indian get so excited trying to deny it?
a) do you have spacecraft capable of going to mars today.
One is on its way flying to Mar today.
 

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US themselve admit they are decling agaisnt China and based on the lastest poll most European countries already think China the top economic power instead of US, that's a fact and why you cheerleader Indian get so excited trying to deny it?

One is on its way flying to Mar today.


oh you landed a mars probe? they landed THESE, each the size of the rocket that launched the mars probe. Don't be petty man. I'm honest enough to know the failings of my own country. You should be too.

 

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oh you landed a mars probe? they landed THESE, each the size of the rocket that launched the mars probe. Don't be petty man. I'm honest enough to know the failings of my own country. You should be too.

It hasn't reached Mars yet, scheduled landing is in next Feburary. I m not just talking about Mars, I m talking about what's happening in general and shift of power in the future, Indians don't see it, but everywhere else its clearly seen by everyone.
 

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China can absolutely win over Europe,and the fact that they are non-white might just help the cause, as the oriental aspects makes a more exotic appeal,more appealing than their neighbors that they have some old qualms with,it's human psychology to wish a stranger do well than your close aquaintance;but for all that to happen of course china has to grow more exponentially both in hard power and soft power ,all on the backdrop of a decaying west. Yellow/white there's not really stark difference in skin color,for a simple reference,look ar bts,it is the pop act with the largest fan following in the west,they effuse more appeal on western masses than their own kin. Their appeal has only been exacerbated by them being east asian.
East Asia has special soft power,japan & korea are so tiny East asian nation in comparison yet they have an overwhelming soft power in an English based anglicized world .

In future ,when china flaunts their overwhelming superiority in wealth,tech and various from of softpower ,Europe will be no exception,that's plain ol human nature.
Europe is not backwater. Put together they are 500 million plus people.

Liberal Europe is not making an alliance with current regime in China. If China transitions to a Singapore or Japan style system they will consider
Even if India joins china of which happening is almost impossible, why would Pakistan join the US? Or the Chinese would become hostile to Pakistan laying their billions to waste? Pakistan even when considered firmly in the Chinese camp, maintains its relations with US. That is not going to change anytime soon Unless US does something exceptionally stupid.
If China recognizes Indian claims over Kashmir what is Pakistan going to do ?
 

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It hasn't reached Mars yet, scheduled landing is in next Feburary. I m not just talking about Mars, I m talking about what's happening in general and shift of power in the future, Indians don't see it, but everywhere else its clearly seen by everyone.
there is no 'shift in power'. That's just a fantasy you're cooking up. And there doesn't have to be. The most creative and innovative societies should succeed. And it is the USA by more miles than before.

You're fighting for prestige. They're fighting only for their dreams. No wonder they'll succeed.
 

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lol @ Chinese sanctions these botfarm trolls talk about, what critical technology we use that will be impacted by Chinese sanctions? Meanwhile, when the US sanctioned HK Chief Executive, She was bragging, "I got no house in the US", then her bank and credit card stopped working. :sarcastic:
 

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lol @ Chinese sanctions these botfarm trolls talk about, what critical technology we use that will be impacted by Chinese sanctions? Meanwhile, when the US sanctioned HK Chief Executive, She was bragging, "I got no house in the US", then her bank and credit card stopped working. :sarcastic:
Really, if it's true, which I highly doubt, she can switch to Weixin or Alipay. No one uses credit cards now in China , too 20th century.
 

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