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China's J-12 - 5th generation multi-role jet

Discussion in 'Chinese Defence Forum' started by Max The Boss, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. Max The Boss

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    China's Jian-12 or J-12 (F-12 for foreign markets) is 5th generation multirole jet due to fly by 2012 and enter service by 2015. It has been codenamed J-XX by US's Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI). J-12 is destined to be China's top-end fighter along with the Su-30MKK\2 when it will be introduced.

    For now, China's top-end plane remains J-10, which is basically an Israeli airframe with Russian engines. It is still under development and it is expected that Russian content will increase extensively as the development progresses.

    China has developed close ties with Russia's aerospace industry and has license produced many fighters including MiG-21 and Su-27. Their FC-1/Super 7 design is based on MiG-33 (which was rejected by Soviet Air Force). Earlier Chinese planes are the Q-5 Fantan, J-8 Finback and FBC-1. The FBC-1 was their latest attempt, and was'nt successful - the Su-27 filled in for it. Considering their track record, it may well be possible that the J-12 ends up being a re-christened MiG MFI. MAPO-MIG is already involved in the J-10 program. MFI is one of the world's 5th generation designs.

    Not much is known about J-12 right now - the aircraft is still going through initial work. The project is at is where the USAF ATF (Advanced Tactical Fighter) Program, which lead to the F-22A, was in ~1983. Virtually everything is still wide open. Sources within combat aircraft manufacturer Chengdu confirm that it is looking at a twin-engined design and that they are examining both single and two crew configuration.

    Stealthiness is an integral part of all new fighter designs and J-12 is no exception. The engines are most likely to be Russian with Thrust Vectoring. Stealth and thrust vectoring are two features that are a must in all aircraft being designed today. Interestingly, Chinese aircraft designers will actually perform a 'generation leap' if J-12 goes into service with PLAAF. All aircraft produced in China before (apart from licenced Su-27) have been 3rd generation aircraft. Chengdu will have to take Western/Israeli/Russian help to make J-12 truly 5th generation.

    J-12 is probably under active development.

    Note: The J-12 designation was previously applied to an aircraft built at Nanchang in the late 1970s, with only one or two airframes being constructed prior to the program's cancellation.
     
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    I hope after China, Pakistan and Sri Lanka wiil be the next countries to get J-12 - 5th generation multi-role jet.
     
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    Lets hope.
     
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    J-12 5th generation multi-role jet under construction
     
  6. gubbi

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    A simple google search will tell you that that picture you posted is of the US F-22 Raptor assembly line.
    Please check whatever you post.
    The article also is outdated, first published in 2002.
     
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    self delete.
     
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    If picture is real...its shows VTOL....
     
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    US F-22 Raptor assembly line.
    from LOCKHEED MARTIN site


     
  10. Gucci Juice

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    the 1st 2 images are of the mig MFI aka mig 39 which is a technology demonstrator 5th generation a/c for the USSR/Russia.

    the production image is of the F-22 Raptor, u can clearly see that its an F-22 in the process before what u see in the above posted picture, see the yellow rails?

    another fake...
     
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    The person that photo shopped those images should have been a little smarter. Any aeronautical engineer will tell you that is a horrible stealth design for a 5th generation aircraft.
     
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    well the first pic is the cockpit of the future chinese 5th generation aircraft described by the chinese sources, while the second pic is of a 001 prototype aircraft, similar to a F-22, chinese 5th generation may be, it may be PSed, experts may tell better, but in the background there is a banner in chinese writing, so don't know is it true or not. But chinese defence websites sources think its authentic.
     
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    well i say one day soon China will do that along with Pakistan....
     
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    im fairly certain there are no REAL images of chinese stealth jets out yet. after all it was only when j-10 were fielded that real pictures appears. these secrets are closely guarded so IF there a prototype were not gonna see it for a while probably only after its been fielded
     
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    I think Russia's PAKFA would be better