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China takes Bangladesh into its embrace now as Delhi-Dhaka ties go downhill

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  1. Black_cats

    Black_cats SENIOR MEMBER

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    China takes Bangladesh into its embrace now as Delhi-Dhaka ties go downhill

    India believes Beijing will now ratchet up pressure on Dhaka to hand over certain lucrative infrastructure and connectivity projects to it to ‘provoke’ New Delhi.

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    New Delhi: India is concerned that China, which has been “targeting all of India’s friendly neighbours” such as Nepal and Sri Lanka, will now focus on turning Bangladesh against New Delhi, at a time when Dhaka is already unhappy over the National Register of Citizens (NRC) and a host of other issues, ThePrint has learnt.

    The ongoing India-China standoff has not just given rise to apprehensions of a potential disruption of bilateral ties between New Delhi and Beijing, it has also made the Narendra Modi government even more wary of President Xi Jinping’s growing influence in Bangladesh, which at present is the closest to India in the neighbourhood.

    From developing a mega smart city near Dhaka to building an airport in Sylhet in eastern Bangladesh, besides a growing defence relationship, China has been making deep inroads in that country, much to New Delhi’s discontent.

    India believes Beijing will now ratchet up pressure on Dhaka to hand over certain lucrative infrastructure and connectivity projects to it in an effort to “provoke” New Delhi, official sources told ThePrint.

    “The challenge is all around. From Nepal to Bangladesh, China is targeting all of India’s friendly neighbours one by one,” a top government official, who did not wish to be identified, told ThePrint. “The concern now has doubled with the Chinese Communist Party paving the way for Pakistan to enter Bangladesh.”

    Beijing also could not find a better time as Dhaka is currently unhappy with New Delhi.


    The friendly relationship between India and Bangladesh, particularly political ties, have been plummeting ever since New Delhi rolled out the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) as Dhaka is concerned that India will push towards it those who will be deemed “foreigners” under the National Register of Citizens (NRC).

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/theprint.in/diplomacy/china-takes-bangladesh-into-its-embrace-now-as-delhi-dhaka-ties-go-downhill/471769/?amp

     
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    China is just better overall in implementing projects, it’s nothing personal India, strictly business
     
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    Beijing does not have to woo India's neighbors at a time when India itself doing so many diplomatic failure. India insults and bullies its smaller neighbors that has caused them to drift away. Indian bureaucrats think India is still the British India and it has every right to bully its neighbors.

    India has already made a permanent dent on its relationship with Bangladesh. Since India's motto is very clear to BD, it is no wonder that it is moving towards re-establishing relationship with those countries which are India's foes. China is not something new to us since President Ziaur Rahman re-established good relationship with it during 1975 - 1980.

    But, Pakistan that would be a new addition in the quest for getting new regional friends for our very defence. Our own survival is at a stake.
     
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    Rise of sanghis in India is the best thing that happened to Muslims of subcontinent in over two centuries.
     
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    Why do Indian officials give themselves sooooo much importance?

    @Joe Shearer @Shantanu_Left @xeuss @INDIAPOSITIVE @Jyotish


    Feel free to contribute your diverse opinions on this question that bugs me routinely.

    Sure, China may well be trying to take on projects in Bangladesh that India would otherwise have undertaken. Why though is it assumed that Beijing's decision making is Delhi-centric in this regard? Is it not plausible - indeed most likely - that Beijing is simply competing ruthlessly for business in Bangladesh?

    It continues to amaze me that professional Indian analysts actually believe their own hubris and maintain that they are of existential importance to Chinese planners, businessmen and strategists.

    No india, China is not interested in provoking you so don't give yourselves such credit with these Bollywood-standard articles. China is interested in flattening any competition, simple.
     
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    Reality.... both are doing fine .



    First-ever container cargo from Kolkata via Bangladesh port reaches Agartala!
    The first-ever container cargo from Kolkata via Bangladesh's Chattogram port has reached Agartala, the External Affairs Ministry said on Thursday, terming it a "historic milestone" in the Indo-Bangladesh connectivity and economic partnership.

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    India hands over 10 broad gauge locomotives to Bangladesh
    The locomotives were flagged off virtually by External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar and Railways Minister Piyush Goyal and were received by Bangladesh’s Foreign Minister A K Abdul Momen and Railway Minister Nurul Islam Sujan.


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    https://indianexpress.com/article/i...ight via,the supply of essential commodities…
     
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    Who can question your Sanghi mindset? Do not forget that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Three sides of your border is closed. Now, reactivate your old fanatic policy when sea voyages were a sin. Do so and India becomes a land-locked country.

    In practice, India is already a landlocked country with locked minds of its people. Muslims are better off in the two countries in your east and west.
     
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    Hasina has no leverage now over india. She already gave up everything.

    Just look at covid vaccine. It was supposed to be tested in bd for phase 3 but china was not allowed to do that. Hasina and her cronies chicken out as usual under indian pressure.
     
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    Agree. Bangladesh needs to kick out Hindus to India before it is too late.
     
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    It is new to me that BD has finally refused China to do the pandemic trial test phase-3 in BD. The people will shortly experience the consequences. India and Hasina both are playing games with this deadly disease. Hasina with her ugly smile is going out of her way to woo India.

    As I said before in another post that Hasina is just superficially wooing Pakistan in the rectangular game to be loved by her great mentor, India. Hasina is a born traitor with her one leg always on the Indian soil. With Hasina in power unfairly, there is little chance the BD-Pakistan relationship to grow to its potential.
     
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    Bold Part: You may be wrong about Corona trial testing in BD by China. Please red the news below:

    https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...tage-trial-of-chinas-sinovac-covid-19-vaccine
     
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    @masterchief_mirza

    Thanks for tagging me.

    I will try to answer you question, although I am not a psychologist :-).

    I agree with what you said in the post where you tagged me.
    I do not think that China sees any country as their enemy.
    China has a mercantilistic philosophy.
    They focus only on business.
    This philosophy / mentality has resulted in high economic growth.

    Other countries who feel threatened by China's economic rise do see China as their enemy.
    These countries are paranoid in thinking that China will replace them since these countries do not only think about doing business but also about having influence and control over the countries where they do business in.

    I do not think that China sees India as their enemy, but India does see China as their enemy.
    And that may explain why they think that China is taking on these projects, not for economic reasons but for strategic ones.
    The Indian officials are also paranoid in thinking that China wants to have the same influence and / or control that India has in Bangladesh.

    What I have learned from people who accuse others of doing something wrong is that these people are often guilty of doing that themselves. That is why they think that others will do that too.
    I think that also applies here.
     
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    Mirza, I blame it on India's education system which produces administrators and bureaucrats who can't help but produce these brain farts. They live in an echo chamber surrounded by yes-men and other servile bureaucrats like themselves. Not a single one of them has any courage of their convictions.

    The roots of this brain farts disease can be traced to British-era Indian Civil Service (ICS). The White Colonials needed educated Brown lackeys to run the day-to-day affairs of the subcontinent so that they could spend their time playing Cricket and Bridge in cooler climes such as Dalhousie and Manali.

    These brown lackeys eventually became Brown Sahibs who enjoyed lording over the underprivileged Brown Indians. Over a period of time, their institutions became even more corroded with many layers of supremacy, almost bordering on a divine right to rule as they may please. It's been 72 years since the British left India, and the sons and grandsons of these entitled Brown Sahibs now run the Indian bureaucracy. They have an overinflated sense of self-importance. Thanks to India's mediocre "rote learning" education system, these Brown Sahibs are able to create clones of themselves, generation after generation.

    Of course, in their narrow prisms, they are at the centre of every country's imagination. The Indian taxpayer subsidizes their audacious lifestyles with fat salaries, bungalows, red beacon vehicles, servants, and this only stretches their self-importance to the end of the galaxies. They have no real concern with the problems that common people face. Whichever government rules India (Congress or BJP), their positions are secure. They only have to parrot what the politicians tell them to.

    Basically, India has become a 3rd class nation because it is led by 3rd class people such as in this OP.

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    I could compare this system of governance with the one in my present abode. Singapore, a beacon of technocracy and efficiency, everything works perfectly here. But it would be a waste of time.

    India is rotting because of the Indians that run the show.
     
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    Ahh the dreaded yes-man culture. "The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the ever expanding bureaucracy." Anon.

    Many an empire has fallen under the burden of such tedium.
     
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