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China Surrounded: US encirclement of it with military bases

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  1. Enemy

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    The U.S. military is encircling China with a chain of air bases and military ports. The latest link: a small airstrip on the tiny Pacific island of Saipan. The U.S. Air Force is planning to lease 33 acres of land on the island for the next 50 years to build a "divert airfield" on an old World War II airbase there. But the residents don't want it. And the Chinese are in no mood to be surrounded by Americans.

    The Pentagon's big, new strategy for the 21st century is something called Air-Sea Battle, a concept that's nominally about combining air and naval forces to punch through the increasingly-formidable defenses of nations like China or Iran. It may sound like an amorphous strategy -- and truth be told, a lot of Air-Sea Battle is still in the conceptual phase. But a very concrete part of this concept is being put into place in the Pacific. An important but oft-overlooked part of Air-Sea Battle calls for the military to operate from small, bare bones bases in the Pacific that its forces can disperse to in case their main bases are targeted by Chinese ballistic missiles.

    Saipan would be used by American jets in case access to the U.S. superbase at Guam "or other Western Pacific airfields is limited or denied," reads this Air Force document discussing the impact building such fields on Saipan and nearby Tinian would have on the environment there. (Residents of Saipan actually want the Air Force to use the historic airbases on Tinian that the U.S. Marines are already refurbishing and flying F/A-18 Hornet fighters out of on an occasional basis.)

    Specifically, the Air Force wants to expand the existing Saipan International Airport -- built on the skeleton of a World War II base used by Japan, and later the United States -- to accommodate cargo, fighter, and tanker aircraft along with up to 700 support personnel for "periodic divert landings, joint military exercises, and joint and combined humanitarian assistance and disaster relief efforts," according to Air Force documents on the project.

    This means the service plans on building additional aircraft parking space, hangars, fuel storage tanks, and ammunition storage facilities, in addition to other improvements to the historic airfield. And it's not the only facility getting an upgrade.

    In addition to the site on Saipan, the Air Force plans to send aircraft on regular deployments to bases ranging from Australia to India as part of its bulked up force in the Pacific. These plans include regular deployments to Royal Australian Air Force bases at Darwin and Tindal, Changi East air base in Singapore, Korat air base in Thailand, Trivandrum in India, and possibly bases at Cubi Point and Puerto Princesa in the Philippines and airfields in Indonesia and Malaysia, a top U.S. Air Force general revealed last month.

    The Saipan announcement comes as Chinese defense minister, Gen. Chang Wanquan, visited Washington to talk with U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel. The specific topic of U.S. bases in the Pacific didn't come up during a joint press conference held by the two officials on Aug. 20, but Wanquan said in response to a question about the U.S. military's increased focus on the Pacific that "China is a peace-loving nation. And we hope that [America's] strategy does not target a specific country in the region."

    While the U.S. military insists that Air Sea Battle, and the military's entire pivot to Asia, isn't about China, these bases are indeed a check against any future Chinese expansion into the Pacific ocean, according to Anthony Cordesman of the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

    "China will be much more discreet throughout the entire region because U.S. power is already there, it's visible; you're not talking theory, you're already there in practice," he said.

    This will also reassure America's allies in the region that the U.S. commitment to the Pacific is legit.

    "As part of this rebalancing to the Pacific, you have to show people it's real at a time when so much of U.S. power is increasingly questioned by our budget debates," Cordesman added.

    Gen. Herbert "Hawk" Carlisle, commander of all U.S. Air Force assets in the Pacific, said that the United States is planning on operating tankers, fighters, and bombers out of a string of bases throughout the South Pacific and Southwest Asia. Like the sites at Tinian and Saipan, these facilities aren't slated for permanent occupation by American aircraft -- or at least that's what American commanders say. Instead, these sites will see a steady stream of U.S. and northern Pacific based units visiting on a regular basis.

    "We're not gonna build any more bases in the Pacific" to support the U.S. Air Force's increased presence there, said Carlisle. And technically, he's telling the truth: no "new" bases, just expansions of existing airports and rebuilds of abandoned facilities like the sites at Saipan and Tinian. In fact, one of the fields being rebuilt by the Marines on Tinian is the place where the B-29 Enola Gay took off on its mission to drop the atomic bomb on the Japanese city of Hiroshima.

    The refurbished airfields also hearken back to the Cold War era, when American units were constantly rotated in and out of Europe to keep the Soviets at bay. To counter a new foe, the Air Force will continuously deploy units based in the United States and the northern Pacific to a string of airfields in Southeast Asia.

    "Back in the late, great days of the Cold War, we had a thing called Checkered Flag: We rotated almost every CONUS [Continental United States] unit to Europe," said Carlisle. "Every two years, every unit would go and work out of a collateral operating base in Europe. We're turning to that in the Pacific."

    Not only does this dispersal allow the United States to hide its planes from destruction, it's also "a way to build up relations with partners in that part of the word," explains Jan Van Tol of the Center for Strategic And Budgetary Assessments, a Washington think tank that helped the Pentagon develop of the Air-Sea Battle concept. "It has to do with establishing interoperability, relationships, and experience in the actual areas" where the United States may have to fight.

    When asked what other old bases the United States might consider expanding to, Van Tol said "people in different discussions will mention bases they might like to see, like Wake Island or, I think, Palau." Both feature the remains of American airstrips from World War II. Wake, in fact, already has a very limited American military presence. Meanwhile, Palau has openely invited the U.S military to return and use one of its World War II airstrips there.

    Cordesman says the U.S. is likely looking at a three-tiered system of such bases in the Pacific. Some will be strictly American, others like those in Australia to India will be operated by allies who host the Americans on deployments, and the third tier will probably be a more secret string of austere, emergency bases.

    "You want forward bases in some areas to show that the United States can operate on its own, then you want that build up interoperability and cooperation with our allies, and then you want contingency capabilities -- and with those you want to leave people guessing," said Cordesman.

    It's another sign that, when comes to the Pacific, what's old is new again.

    Surrounded: How the U.S. Is Encircling China with Military Bases | Killer Apps
     
  2. Flat_Top56

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    Do I need to subscribe to read the article? Since when did FP do this crap?
     
  3. BigDaddyWatch

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    Nothing to worry about. The American economy is simply "waiting to die". :coffee:
     
  4. acid rain

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    South Korea - there are a couple of new USN bases coming up there.
     
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    USA's deployment in India????when did that happen???atleast,they'll not deploy their force openly..something like previously flown spy missions on line..an Trivandrum???thats south..nowhere near China border...
     
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    Considering budget cuts i doubt that US will be encircling anyone in near future. Unless they are crazy a word which rhymes perfectly with yanks.
     
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    US spying raises tensions with China
    Updated: 2013-08-22 01:32

    By Pu Zhendong in Beijing and Chen Weihua in Washington (China Daily)

    The US has been increasing air and sea reconnaissance in waters near China, a situation that Beijing regards as dangerous and harmful to the building of trust between the two nations, a senior Chinese military officer warned on Tuesday.

    US surveillance activities around China are soaring, while US vessels and planes are coming closer to Chinese ships and aircraft in China's exclusive economic zones in the East China Sea and the South China Sea, said Guan Youfei, director of the Foreign Affairs Office of the Ministry of National Defense.

    "Any country would feel uneasy and threatened under such high-frequency reconnaissance," Guan said. "It goes against the good momentum of building a new type of relationship between the two militaries."

    Meanwhile, China expressed serious concerns over the Taiwan Policy Act of 2013, approved by the US House of Representatives' Foreign Affairs Committee in August, which authorized US President Barack Obama to accept Taiwan's request for the purchase of F-16 fighters, Guan said.

    "We hope Washington will have a clearer vision of the situation and stop repeating its mistakes on the Taiwan question," he said at a news briefing in Washington after the conclusion of Defense Minister Chang Wanquan's four-day visit to the US.

    Chang, during his first trip to the Pentagon since assuming office in March, met separately on Monday with his US counterpart, Chuck Hagel, and US National Security Advisor Susan Rice.

    Meng Xiangqing, deputy director of the Strategic Research Institute at the National Defense University of the People's Liberation Army, said the development of Sino-US military ties hinges on prioritizing cooperation and controlling major divergences.

    US spying raises tensions with China|Asia-Pacific|chinadaily.com.cn
     
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    I am always curious: Who is paying for such huge expenses???

     
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    Any minute now... :coffee:

    LOL... making American doomsday predictions puts you in the same league with the foaming-at-the-mouth Chinese doomsdayers and the pro-India "supah-powah" kids.

    Well, our military expenditures are greatly exaggerated.

    We are spending the equivalent of 4.3% of GDP on the military.

    That's slightly larger than other nations, but not significantly larger. India spends around 2.5%, China 1.3% (with SIPRI putting you guys closer to 2%), most European nations are in the range of China-India.

    Russia spends 4.4%, in their obsession to match us percent for percent, and most other countries are irrelevant (the Israelis spend around 6%, and the Saudis spend anywhere from 8%-11%).

    EDIT: I forgot to add that our expenditures as a % of GDP are also falling quite drastically. 4.3% in FY2013, dropping to 2.8% of GDP in FY2023. At least that's what's going to happen with the sequester in place.

    China will probably surpass us in expenditures (in US dollar terms) around 2025, the way things are looking now. We will still retain our large advantage through technological AND numerical superiority, for the simple reason that we continue to maintain thousands of aircraft produced before the Chinese military budget has surpassed us.
     
  10. KAL-EL

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    Well didn't you know? According to some of the "super experts" here in PDF, America is now nothing more then a 3rd world country with a very primitive military :omghaha:
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    Well, I guess China better get busy building a new Great Wall to keep the crazy yanks out! Maybe China can breach the US's blockade by taking over the Philippines Sea?
     
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    US does have and still hold that global outreach in near future. China's interest claim is limited within SCS, not even the whole SCS. But I think China will try to break this block and seek new equilibrium in next 20 years.

    I doubt India will obey the deployment of US....Even South Korea has to separate her diplomatic & military strategy from economy policies.
     
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    US plan to station military aircraft

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    New Delhi, Aug. 21: A top US Air Force general has said Washington is preparing to station military aircraft in India as part of its “Asia pivot” policy, and the city it is looking at to base its assets in is Kerala capital Thiruvananthapuram.

    An Indian defence ministry source said: “We have never discussed any such proposal.”

    Defence minister A.K. Antony is from Kerala, where the Opposition Left is mobilising protests against the state government.

    The disclosure by the American general, who was part of the policy group on Indo-US military relations, has the potential to stir up trouble for the Manmohan Singh government in the run-up to elections. In Kerala, the Left is particularly strong.

    CPM general secretary Prakash Karat, informed of the US general’s statement, said: “That seems to be the expectation of the Pentagon. It would stem from the Indo-US military framework agreement signed in 2006. It is up to the UPA government to clarify if such base facilities will be allowed.”

    The chief of the Pacific air forces under the US military’s Pacific Command, General Herbert “Hawk” Carlisle, has visited Thiruvananthapuram. As a lieutenant general before he took over his current command, he had led the US delegation at an executive steering group meeting of the Indian and US air forces.

    “So, as I envision it, as I talk about expanded engagement, a lot of our rebalance is a rotational presence through the Pacific. And obviously we’ll maintain our capability in Northeast Asia. In a lot of ways we’ll increasingly move south and west with the rotational presence. Darwin, Tindal, (Pilbara), Changi East in Singapore, Korat in Thailand, Trivandrum in India.… The most capable platforms will be rotated into the Asia-Pacific,” the general was quoted by Foreign Policy and other magazines as telling journalists at a breakfast meeting.

    Carlisle said the US was not setting up new bases in the Asia-Pacific but would continuously “rotate” its military assets in a revival of a “Checkered Flag” policy from the years of the Cold War.

    He said that during the Cold War, the US rotated all its military units from the Continental US (Conus) to Europe. That would now be done for the Asia-Pacific.

    Indian Air Chief Marshal N.A.K. Browne, who visited the US last month, met Carlisle.

    Talking of that meeting, the US general said the Indian Air Force was trying to learn to set up a military space command. Carlisle said he had apologised for cancelling a Red Flag exercise, to which the Indian Air Force had been invited, because of budget cuts.

    “The relationship’s great with the Indian Air Force. I think Air Chief Marshal Browne and I are good friends. We’ve known each other for a while,” Carlisle said.

    “We talked about a variety of things. One of them was, again, an apology on our part for cancelling Red Flag. We did make a commitment to have Red Flag next year about this time and they are going to participate, so that was a positive in that respect.”

    He added: “We talked about other engagement opportunities. Their C-17 (strategic air-lifter) — he was here picking up a C-17 out of Long Beach, their second one. He actually flew the C-17 back here to Washington DC through Colorado. So we talked about the C-17.

    “One of the discussions was doing some exchanges with their C-17 folks and ours. The other things that he talked about were the Indian Air Force — the Indian military is trying to develop a space command.”

    Browne was also in Colorado Springs to visit the US Air Force Space Command. “So we talked about our potential to show them how we do it, some of the education that’s available, some of the organisational things, some of the things we learned as we stood up a space command a long time ago,” the general said.

    US plan to station military aircraft
     
  14. Enemy

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    double post
     
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    US and China's economies are closely intertwined and interdependent,huge US assets are in China and Chinese US,hoping the two giants to go to war for a thrid country is daydreaming,it's like an economic suicide for both countries.