- Oct 18, 2007
Today is not april 1
Like China selling 15k UAVs to whom ?I guess China is making good profit being a middle man
Like China selling 15k UAVs to whom ?
It's my guess. Who do tou think 15,000 right now?
Russia can buy from Iran directly as they have done. How much money can China make by reselling those UAVs to others if thats the case ? How big risk do you think China will be taking for the small financial gain ?Russia ?
My friend..It is simple "economics 101"..No one is claiming that China needs these drones for her own use..China has a very advanced Drone tech of her own.No offense to the Iranian members here but I find this news a bit ludicrous. I think both sides are a bit emotional right now, so let’s break it down in a logical fashion.
For the drone itself:
The fuselage — similar to Harpy, which China a has acquired in the 90s.
Motor — MD-550 engine, which based on Limbach, now a Chinese company.
Electronics — off the shelf components by Western firms or domestic replicas, which are available in exponentially larger quantities in China.
Economy of scale — don’t make me laugh.
Performance wise, while the 136 series helped turn the tide for Russia, individually did it really perform any more impressively than the Mugin-5? Both are slow, loud, fly low and are difficult to spot on radar. But Mugin-5 is similarly battle tested, scoring direct hits on the Black Sea Fleet head quarters despite efforts by air defense to down them. You don’t see PLA going on a massive shopping spree on Aliexpress do you?
Of course there is the argument that Russia has acquired large numbers of Iranian suicide/attack drones so it isn’t impossible for China. Let’s analyze the situation here. I think there are three reasons that Russia went for it.
1) Iranian drones are very effective weapons and more importantly, very cost effective guided munition. This allows the Russians to launch precision strikes without depleting guided munitions stock.
2) Russia has not focused on developing their drone industry.
3) The Russians are in the middle of a war and need as many weapons as possible.
Points 2 and 3 do not apply to China at all, and I can make a case that China has a much larger stockpile of guided weapons. The situation for Russian import of Iranian drones doesn’t really apply to China.
How much can China make by reselling the UAVs to others ? What big risk would China be taking with the US and West for small financial gains ? Also, I cant find possible customers to absorb 15k UAVs now, and how long will take Iran to produce and deliver the total 15k UAVs ? All these facts point to not very plausible of the deal.My friend..It is simple "economics 101"..No one is claiming that China needs these drones for her own use..China has a very advanced Drone tech of her own.
China Buys drones from Iran and sells the drone to any one who wants that drone (apparently the are many who want these Drones but can not buy direct from Iran).. China being a true economics power house makes a good profit..Iran is happy to sell her drone and the customer is now happy to have his drone with no US sanctions imposed on them..ALL are HAPPY..WIN_WIN_WIN for all three.
I do not know the details or if this news is legitimate..but I can tell you about Iran's medical equipment because I heared it first hand myself from a medical equipment rep in Canada..Iranian medical equipment are sold all over the world after being re-branded to show "made in xxx"..country the xxx usually an ex east European countries...why..because they are high quality and AFFORDABE...economics always wins over stupid politics of sanctions.How much can China make by reselling the UAVs to others ? What big risk would China be taking with the US and West for small financial gains ? Also, I cant find possible customers to absorb 15k UAVs now, and how long will take Iran to produce and deliver the total 15k UAVs ? All these facts point to not very plausible of the deal.