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China refutes Turkey's Uygur death claim

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  1. beijingwalker

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    Show a live feed and prove the Turkish foreign minister wrong.
    You cant,because he is dead?
     
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    he's dead from pork and wine...
     
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    Tell me what is the problem with showing a live feed of him alive?
    Doesnt it silence me and others who think he is dead,arent you the reasonable one?
    You want to be like the KSA in the Kashoggi case,''he left the embassy alive,no he is killed but others did it,MBS is innocent''.
    You do realize that the Uyghur camps are all over the news in almost every important international news outlets,even state tv channels.
    The singers death is just icing on the cake.
     
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    I deleted my post for exactly this reason.

    Who do you suppose have this power to show a live feed that is on this forum? Me? This is what's in front of you, you can either see it for what it is China has shown a video of him alive and has no reason to kill him. He isn't the first person to be a political prisoner and he isn't even close to be the most severe.

    Even BBC and Amnesty International has said his friends has not seen him but his son has.

    At least at this point, there is more evidence that he is alive than dead.

    I never doubted the camps, that has never been my position, but just because of that doesn't mean everything related to it is true. What is true is true, what isn't, isn't.

    Lastly, since you like facts that much, do you have any evidence what so ever from anybody, other than a nationalistic government mouth piece that this guy is dead? Even Amnesty international isn't saying he is.
     
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    LOL.. After we show u video of him alive and u avoid the topic by asking for live feed? Whats next?

    Turkish need to look into mirror of their atrocities.


    Meet The Kurdish Woman Imprisoned For Singing In Turkey
     
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    See,im a critic of my current government,i dont buy things because they say so,unlike many others.
    With life feed i meant on a Chinese news outlet at any give time.
    You say evidence,well,show it and be done.
     
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    Tell u what, China need to withdraw all loans for Turkey. Obviously these turkish cant be trusted. Turkey cannot be part of one belt, one road. China and USA need to combine to crush Turkey economy until there is no chance of recovery. Make sure Turkish Lira become as worthless as toilet paper.
     
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    Do we owe Turkey anything ? What made Turks here to believe that they have the right to demand China to do anything? Is that Uighur musician a Turkish citizen? We showed that video to debunk your lies only. We do whatever we like in China. They are none of you turks business.
     
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    How many times do I have to say it, I don't have the power to show anything. China showed the video, that is a million times more trustworthy than any propaganda news outlet.

    So I say again, what is your evidence to even say he is dead. You still have not answered this question.

    No major Human rights organization has made this accusation, and even after has not made any accusation of the sort. What are you basing any of your claims on.

    You don't buy things from your government? Maybe, but there is a clear bias here. Had this news outlet reported any of the other propaganda piece you would not have made anything of it. You only believe this because you want to.
     
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    China need to stir up nationalism by asking for banning of tour to Turkey. No loans and no trade with these liars.
     
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    I dont have to give you any evidence,why would i need to when you(China) have to show if he is alive?
    Bias you say,i said i dont believe just because they say so,so then prove me right.
    You are dragging this for what reason,for what?
    To find a look alike,like KSA did or what?:sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic:
     
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    I love this video :enjoy:





     
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    China HAVE SHOWN he is alive, at this point are you just trolling me. You are basing everything on one tabloid propaganda piece from an openly racist outlet and we need to provide proof?

    Fine, then China shown the video. At some point, meaningful debate needs to happen.

    You don't have evidence? Fine, do you have any reason, other than that tabloid that would even remotely suggest that he is dead. Even a suggestion from a credible source, or even somewhat credible source would be fine.

    They did not say so, they SHOWN a video. Why would I comment on this at all, I never do so before, because I had reasonable doubt on most of the other cases, this is a clear cut propaganda smear piece and that's why I am commenting. You don't care that the Turkish mouth piece blatantly lied, as did your FM? I'm not saying Chinese never do it, but I don't support it when they do, as you are now.

    Lastly, you guys need to get out of the ME, you see everyone else as the same as your ME rivals. We are not KSA. We sit at the big boys table.
     
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    since this is already escalated to state level, i can see Beijing next move to deal with turk :D
    just wait and see , hehehe :D
     
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