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China Pledges Support for Taliban in Afghanistan, while Taliban Assured China They Would Not Support ETIM Terrorist !

Zsari

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If you guys believe -- on this little corner of the Internet -- that the Taliban will not betray China, you are delusional. Islam WILL override China. No matter what. By that, I do not mean the Taliban will try to impose Islam into China, but that the Taliban WILL use whatever 'Islamic' reasoning to justify betrayal.

China's leadership is fully aware of this potential and probably have what they believe to be countermeasures. Whether those proposed countermeasures will work not, no one knows, so all we can do is wait for the inevitable and be entertained by China's responses.
If China is dealing with the US, why not the Taliban. Say what you will about them, at least they are more consistent than the US government.
 
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I grew up in XinJiang. Most of my high school classmates still live in XinJiang. Many of them are involved in military or armed police since my high school was founded mainly for children in army. And I am not even American. I only work in US. Don't you know what each flag means in this forum? Yet you naively think I get my information from BBC or CNN, which I don't even watch.
You must be have bad criminal records for sure.
Yes, in many countries someone with bad criminal records will face many restrictions.


For myself,
I don't face any restrictions when last time I travel to Xinjiang, even I'm a foreign citizen
 

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If you are a non-Chinese national already, you would know that when you visit China, you are required by law to report to the local police within 24 hours. The hotel you stay will do that for you. But if you visit relatives or friends, they need to report to the police with you along with their residence proof (Hu Kou). What is more interesting is that the address on their Hu Kou must match the address where you would stay, which is increasingly difficult to comply since many folks own multiple houses. So, I would say, yes, they know where you are. For this matter, I actually consulted my cousin who is a policewoman in charge of this function dealing with foreigners, she advised me to follow the law. They don't always check on you but if they do and find you didn't report in time, you are in trouble.
If you learn more, you will know that this is a universal rule in countries all over the world. But if you were a man committed to exposing Chinese secrets, would you be afraid of this level of transgression?
 

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The Taliban delegation with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi in Tianjin on Wednesday. Photo: Handout

China has pledged support for the Taliban’s role in Afghanistan’s reconstruction
, while demanding that it cuts ties with the East Turkestan Islamic Movement – blamed by Beijing for attacks in its Xinjiang region.

Foreign Minister Wang Yi made the remarks during talks with a nine-member delegation led by the Taliban’s chief negotiator and co-founder Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar in the northern city of Tianjin on Wednesday.

It was the first time a senior member of the organisation had visited China since the Taliban’s capture of several key districts in Badakhshan and Kandahar provinces. Taliban fighters have taken control of around half the country up to its border with the Chinese region of Xinjiang, and US air strikes continue to support Afghan security forces.


Wang said the withdrawal of US and Nato troops from Afghanistan represented a failure of US policies and called on the Taliban to push for a role in the peace process.


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“The Taliban in Afghanistan is a pivotal military and political force in the country, and will play an important role in the process of peace, reconciliation and reconstruction there,” Wang said, according to a foreign ministry statement.

Wang said China would support Afghanistan’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, but he also demanded the Taliban cut off any connection with the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM).

“ETIM is an international terrorist organisation listed by the UN Security Council and poses a direct threat to China’s national security and territorial integrity,” Wang said.

“Fighting ETIM is the common responsibility of the international community and I hope the Afghanistan Taliban will cut ties with terror groups such as ETIM. The Afghanistan Taliban can contribute to an effective crackdown against those groups and play an active role in regional stability and development.”


Taliban spokesman Mohammad Naeem said the meetings focused on the political, economic and security issues facing the two nations, as well as the peace process.

He tweeted that the group had assured China that Afghan territory would not be used to threaten the security of other nations, and that China had promised not to interfere in Afghanistan’s affairs but to help build peace and solve problems.
The US stepped up air strikes in southern Afghanistan against the Taliban on Sunday, with General Frank McKenzie saying America was prepared to continue if the Taliban offensive did not stop.

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The Taliban has called the air strikes a violation of the Doha agreement – the peace deal signed by Baradar with the US in February last year that paved the way for the withdrawal of American troops, due to be completed in late August, and the eventual intra-Afghan negotiations.



Afghanistan and China are also expected to be the focus of talks in New Delhi between US Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Indian officials on Wednesday.

Beijing has been closely watching the progress of US troop withdrawals from Afghanistan and sought to play a bigger role in the country. At a meeting with his Afghan and Pakistani counterparts in June, Wang vowed to “bring the Taliban back into the political mainstream” and offered to host intra-Afghan peace talks.
“China’s position is that this should be resolved within Afghanistan. And the situation in Afghanistan should not threaten China’s security,” a source said, naming security in Xinjiang and Chinese investments in the region as some of Beijing’s top concerns.


Despite past support for Uygur militants in Xinjiang, the Taliban has said it will not interfere in China’s internal affairs.


China previously hosted the Taliban in 2019, when a nine-member delegation travelled to Beijing and met Deng Xijun, then special representative for Afghanistan.

Yan Wei, an international relations professor at Northwest University in China, said it was necessary for both the Taliban and China to engage each other. “Regardless of whether the Taliban will become the government, it is a key force affecting the political development and security of Afghanistan,” he said.

“The Taliban can constrain some other terrorist organisations in Afghanistan. China can through the Taliban put certain constraints on other terrorist organisations, which is useful for China’s security and regional security.”


https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...-arrives-china-talks-foreign-minister-wang-yi





After Cost more than $2 Trillion, and 20 years of War.

The Longest War for US, Ended with another Disastrous Defeat for american. And a Big Win for China :enjoy:

The New Afghan would be another China's Ally in Central Asia
Just like I said @Imran Khan
 

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Was it before this time. My former colleague is from China and a Muslim, he mentioned that life wasn't good for them.
Travel by yourself there, experience the local Culture, and talk to the Real Xinjiang people by yourself 😉



If you guys believe -- on this little corner of the Internet -- that the Taliban will not betray China, you are delusional. Islam WILL override China. No matter what. By that, I do not mean the Taliban will try to impose Islam into China, but that the Taliban WILL use whatever 'Islamic' reasoning to justify betrayal.

China's leadership is fully aware of this potential and probably have what they believe to be countermeasures. Whether those proposed countermeasures will work not, no one knows, so all we can do is wait for the inevitable and be entertained by China's responses.
Thank you so much for your advice mister, I don't know you care so much toward China





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American "experts" crawling out of their woodwork trying to educate Chinese how to deal with Afghanistan and Islam and rationalize their selfdelusional China-bad-Muslims-outside-of-China-bad-China-incompetent-etc mental coping framework and how Chinas approaches are as usual doomed to fail, after China took like a week to get the Taliban on relatively postive terms and a constructive path on the ground of reality, is kind of hillarious. 😂
 

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Don't know man, Taliban are risky business for everyone in the region including Pak

If Afghan gov wasn't so Pro India no one would have been celeberating it...

Everyone needs to be very careful with them

They have Tajik, TTP, ETEM, Uzbek and many other foreign fighters in thier ranks

Don't know how easily can they get rid of em even if they want too

Taliban is a confederacy of groups and not a unified group with solid leadership
 

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You must be have bad criminal records for sure.
Yes, in many countries someone with bad criminal records will face many restrictions.


For myself,
I don't face any restrictions when last time I travel to Xinjiang, even I'm a foreign citizen
Absolutely not. I am more security sensitive and know how other security sensitive people would act. I grew up in a Chinese military base that specializes information gathering, monitoring and decryption. A general there hired a carpenter briefly to make some furnitures. A few years later after his retirement, the carpenter was caught and he turned up to be a spy from Taiwan. The general was dragged out of his retirement and sentenced for 3 years. I was imbued in that kind of atmosphere.

Most of the time, traveling anywhere in China is not a problem. The problem is that you don't know when it would become a problem and when that happens, it is a hell broke loss.
 

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If you learn more, you will know that this is a universal rule in countries all over the world. But if you were a man committed to exposing Chinese secrets, would you be afraid of this level of transgression?
Actually that is not true. For example in US, as a foreigner, you are required to report when you change address of residence but it is not required when you visit friends and stay at their place for a few days after you have arrived in US and reported your first address of stay. But it is required in China. In China you are required to report at every move, even temporary ones. In us you are required to report your permanent moves only. Big difference.
 

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Actually that is not true. For example in US, as a foreigner, you are required to report when you change address of residence but it is not required when you visit friends and stay at their place for a few days after you have arrived in US and reported your first address of stay. But it is required in China. In China you are required to report at every move, even temporary ones. In us you are required to report your permanent moves only. Big difference.
But there are the same rules in Britain and Germany.
 

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If you are a non-Chinese national already, you would know that when you visit China, you are required by law to report to the local police within 24 hours. The hotel you stay will do that for you. But if you visit relatives or friends, they need to report to the police with you along with their residence proof (Hu Kou). What is more interesting is that the address on their Hu Kou must match the address where you would stay, which is increasingly difficult to comply since many folks own multiple houses. So, I would say, yes, they know where you are. For this matter, I actually consulted my cousin who is a policewoman in charge of this function dealing with foreigners, she advised me to follow the law. They don't always check on you but if they do and find you didn't report in time, you are in trouble.
I have only heard that people with criminal records have to report to the police station when they go to other provinces. Foreigners may also receive special attention when they go to sensitive areas. Isn't this right?

I don’t know if you really grew up in Xinjiang, or what happened to you. Xinjiang is still a sensitive area today. This is not the responsibility of the Communist Party. If there is no intervention from external forces, Xinjiang will remain Stable, various restrictive measures will be gradually removed.

I went to Xinjiang last year and didn't encounter any special disturbance. Except that the epidemic prevention measures are stricter than other places, if you don't want to do anything bad, no one will bother you.
 

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