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The British waged wars for that, sponsored by the gov in drug trade. Latin American states govs never get involved in the trade and no wars waged, big differences.


Americans can only blame themselves to import the stuff, no one force them. The substance is banned in China.
And what was Panama war then?


"I was just wondering what South America would look like if nobody gave a damn about coke or communism." - Quantum of Solace (Best script ever of 007, in my opinion).

:lol:

firearms don't made from steel.......


Nah, CIA control those Mexico Cartel.

We lost the war on drug 30 years ago; CIA took over by siding with one of the cartels in order to control the flow of drug to the US. CIA started smuggle drug using ex-US Commercial Pilot back in 1970s, they said they had stopped after Barry Seal was arrested and turn DEA witness (he was executed by Medellín Cartel) but virtually no one in the intelligence community believe what the CIA said.

USA has mysterious ways of rule his own people.

Drugs in USA can be useful to disable disidence.

 

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And what was Panama war then?


"I was just wondering what South America would look like if nobody gave a damn about coke or communism." - Quantum of Solace (Best script ever of 007, in my opinion).

:lol:


USA has mysterious ways of rule his own people.

Drugs in USA can be useful to disable disidence.

Panama didnt wage war on US to sell drugs to Americans, but Ameicans scapegoated Panama to wage a war on the country, numb.
 

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Panama didnt wage war on US to sell drugs to Americans, but Ameicans scapegoated Panama to wage a war on the country, numb.
I was replying to "Latin American states govs never get involved in the trade".

Panama state was involved in drug trade and that was the reason of USA war against Panama.
 

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And what was Panama war then?


"I was just wondering what South America would look like if nobody gave a damn about coke or communism." - Quantum of Solace (Best script ever of 007, in my opinion).

:lol:


USA has mysterious ways of rule his own people.

Drugs in USA can be useful to disable disidence.

Well, not people, all these are about fringe group.

Not condoning what it had happen but back in the days, it really is one of the ways, in some case, the only way to deal with violence group.
 

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Well, not people, all these are about fringe group.

Not condoning what it had happen but back in the days, it really is one of the ways, in some case, the only way to deal with violence group.
I wonder why the biggest druglord of all times was Colombian and he was not from another Latin America country (in the begining it was not a country productor of cocaine).

I guess USA tolerated some drug traffic from Colombia, because it was useful to fight against communist guerrilla.

 

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I wonder why the biggest druglord of all times was Colombian and he was not from another Latin America country (in the begining it was not a country productor of cocaine).

I guess USA tolerated some drug traffic from Colombia, because it was useful to fight against communist guerrilla.

This have 2 folds

1.) Money, drug trade made a lot of money, it may not work if you have to use it on a legit way, but it will work if you were to use them as Black Budget

2.) Control, again, control the drug flow and you will be able to control all the drug user in a single country. It also makes your own government look good, I mean you can make fake bust and make it look like you are doing something to stop drug flow into the country.
 

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firearms don't made from steel.......


Nah, CIA control those Mexico Cartel.

We lost the war on drug 30 years ago; CIA took over by siding with one of the cartels in order to control the flow of drug to the US. CIA started smuggle drug using ex-US Commercial Pilot back in 1970s, they said they had stopped after Barry Seal was arrested and turn DEA witness (he was executed by Medellín Cartel) but virtually no one in the intelligence community believe what the CIA said.

Fox news scaring old and middle aged white people - Shariah Law is coming to Sarasota! Run for the hills!

New documentary exposes mexican cartels using Fried chicken franchise called Los pollos hermanos to distribute meth…build that wall!!
 

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Fox news scaring old and middle aged white people - Shariah Law is coming to Sarasota! Run for the hills!

New documentary exposes mexican cartels using Fried chicken franchise called Los pollos hermanos to distribute meth…build that wall!!
Well, Fox and republican had changed......It used to be about family, now it's about scaring your family....

I mean, who will be dumb enough to go on social media and say "Let's cancel the constitution" so the man who said that can become US president again, then serve the constitution he just cancelled.......

I mean lately these right wing nut job is nothing more than a joke.......
 

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Fentanyl, not coke, seems to be China's weapon of choice here.

Well, that's one way to look at it.

Another way is that people don't realise illegal drug have quite a lot of power in controlling a country, can you name me a single country that does not have a any sort of illegal drug problem?? Even places like Singapore have them, which they are very tough on drug. So whoever control the flow of illegal drug, that is probably going to be able to control or curb a country.

That is what the CIA and the Government learn from those cartels selling narcotic inside US, US tried to fight it, but they can't then they realise it is something we all most likely cannot do anything about it, you may as well just control them.

Even China realises this now, DEA estimated 64% of the world of illegal Fentanyl or Precursor were illegally export from China (The other country being Vietnam and India) and most that reach US was imported either as a whole or by parts from China to Mexico (they didn't say the share, but it is estimated at around 90%) You have to have some kind of government connection to bring drugs in illegally from the place of origin, and 64% of world share usually mean this is systematic, it point out to what China is doing is like what the US is doing to Crack and Heroin back in the 80s.
You are talking nonsense. China is a serious country. We abide by our commitments and have completely banned the export and production of fentanyl.

The fentanyl on the US market now comes from India, Vietnam, Canada and Mexico. Among them, fentanyl exported from Canada and Mexico is produced by drug trafficking groups controlled by the CIA.
 

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Pretty sure the CIA get the black budget from the drug trade. American aren't stupid to pay dissents and saboteur in foreign country with traceable taxpayer money. There is reason why Afghan opium trade sky rocket when American invaded.

As long as the drug trade destroy minorities community, keep the host countries in chaos, the environment is great for CIA to operate. CIA can't operate in an orderly society.
 

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China is a serious country. We abide by our commitments and have completely banned the export and production of fentanyl.
Maybe through legal channels, which is not to say black marketeers, smugglers etc are also abiding by the law.
 

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Maybe through legal channels, which is not to say black marketeers, smugglers etc are also abiding by the law.
Previously, as long as you did not sell fentanyl in China, it would not be considered as drug trafficking. Therefore, Chinese pharmaceutical enterprises was produce fentanyl.

Now the production and export of fentanyl are considered as drug trafficking. Do you know what kind of punishment will be faced for drug trafficking in China?
 

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Man you must be desperate, start watching FOX news ?
Fact is fentanyl produced in China is flooding USA through Latin American states .

Anyone denying that is "plain stupid or conspiracy theoriest" since it's 100% fact with data published by CDC.

Now whether this is pure money thing or China Communist party agenda .who cares..the end result is same..
 

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You are talking nonsense. China is a serious country. We abide by our commitments and have completely banned the export and production of fentanyl.

The fentanyl on the US market now comes from India, Vietnam, Canada and Mexico. Among them, fentanyl exported from Canada and Mexico is produced by drug trafficking groups controlled by the CIA.
Sure, I am sure DEA is talking about nonsense


Currently, China remains the primary source of fentanyl and fentanyl-related substances trafficked through international mail and express consignment operations environment, as well as the main source for all fentanyl-related substances trafficked into the United States. Seizures of fentanyl sourced from China average less than one kilogram in weight, and often test above 90 percent concentration of pure fentanyl

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This is declassified DEA intelligence report on Fentanyl Jan 2020

So did the BBC


But hey, if you say it ain't we should take your word for it, right??
 

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