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Sorry but im not convinced that this trash will serve Greece well
Australia is buying it. It has extreme heat, cold, rain, sand, fire, smoke, oceans + every weather you can think if. Your argument about F 35s fragility does not make sense.
 

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China ‘Decodes’ F-22, F-35 Puzzle; Flaunts ‘World’s First Anti-Stealth Radar’ That Can Detect Stealthiest Of Aircraft

ByAritra Banerjee
October 6, 2021
China has recently showcased what was touted to be a revolutionary radar at the Zhuhai airshow. The YLC-8E is a significant addition to the People’s Liberation Army’s anti-stealth capabilities, a development seen as a major challenge for the US’ highly advanced F-35 and F-22 fighter jets.


The EurAsian Times had previously reported that the China Electronics Technology Group Corporation (CETC) unveiled a prototype claiming that it could identify stealth aircraft in-flight.

Going by open-source intelligence, such a technology would likely work by generating an electromagnetic (EMW) storm which would serve to acquire the location of incoming stealth aircraft.

Researchers at China’s Tsinghua University had said they intend to develop a full-sized prototype. Chinese scientists explained that high-energy quantum particles would be able to acquire targets not typically visible to radars.

However, physicist Jeffrey Shapiro, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and a pioneer of the quantum radar idea, opined that the process is fraught with far too many technical issues for it to be of any use.


An image was posted on social media of what was speculated to be China’s YLC-8E anti-stealth radar. (via Twitter)

Nevertheless, the Chinese research team has asserted in its paper that the EMW storm led to 95 percent stealth detection. Another interesting find was that the sensitivity of the radar did not suffer despite the increase in target distance.

The quality of stealth materials also did not seem to make a difference. It was further claimed that this detection would be possible from long-distance even in arduous climatic conditions.

This development gave a clear indication of China’s intent to circumvent American stealth technology.

How YLC-8E Was Developed
The YLC-8E is the brainchild of the Chinese state-owned CETC and has been touted to be the “flagship of Chinese stealth radar”.

The device has been described as the world’s first UFH band anti-stealth radar system and also the pioneer in special high-frequency radar technology and active phase-controlled array radar coupled with a novel anti-stealth sharp device.


China’s YLC-8B anti-stealth radar.

China’s state-owned Global Times had earlier explained that the antenna of the YLC-8E is gigantic. With its high power and cutting-edge information process technology, it can detect even the most advanced stealth aircraft. It can also detect other types of targets at long range and high definition with its key parameters superior, making it superior to foreign competitors.

The YLC-8E has the basic features seen in any 4th-generation intelligence radar. It can be leveraged to provide critical combat command systems with actionable intelligence, integrate the intelligence collected, and even intercept aerial threats and hostile weapon systems. This stealth reportedly possesses independent guidance capabilities as well.

The YLC-8E is mandated with a myriad of crucial battlefield functions, including providing anti-aircraft alerts emanating from varying altitudes.

It is also responsible for aircraft guidance tasks and target search and acquisition. To surmise, the YLC-8E has been described as the “backbone of the radar network.”

Should US Be Worried?
The Chinese YLC-8E system has been marketed as a super radar capable of detecting American aircraft F-22 and F-35.

According to Song Zhongping, a Hong Kong-based military commentator and a former PLA instructor, Beijing is making technological strides in quantum-based radars and laser-based radar systems besides metric wave radars which collectively improve the military’s capabilities.

This is part of an ongoing effort to integrate the entire nation’s early warning network. China’s quest to have more advanced anti-stealth radars came as countries around the world are researching and buying stealth fighters or drones to boost their defenses. And China is attempting to ensure its airspace remains secure.




Hu Mingchun one of the directors at the Research Institute at China Electronics Technology Group told theGlobal Times – The antenna of the YLC-8E is enormous. With its high power and state-of-art information process technology, the YLC-8E can discover even the stealthiest of aircraft. It can also detect other targets at long range and high definition making it much superior to other radars.

Earlier radars often had assigned purposes, but this highly versatile radar can not only detect stealth fighter jets and other aircraft but can also be employed for early warning and artillery reconnaissance. This means that this radar can single-handedly serve the purpose of multiple radars operating concurrently, Hu added.

With the advancements and R&D investment they are doing China can do it and probably already has this implemented.

French NOSTRADOMUS OTH Radar made quite a hype 10-15 years ago and was rumored to have tracked a B-2 at extreme ranges. Lacked resolution/accuracy though.

 

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The F-35 is a flawed aircraft with thousands of failures that are still not solved. I dont see any value in it.
And you're expert to say that, and USAF/USN/Marines take a deliveries of that, you think they are stupid or something inducting flawed jets into USAF/USN/Mariners?
 

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The F-35 is plagued my thousands of quality issues. Its main gun has enormous flaws and bends. The aircrafts coat boils off when she goes above 1200 km/h. The aircraft starts to desintegrate when it flys over 1200 km/h longer than 10 minutes. The aircraft needs to stand in climatized hangars and even the helmet needs its own engineers.
The F-35 will not need to use its gun unless it time travels back to WWII. No plane constantly flies at 1200km/h unless they want to lose all of their fuel. The cost of climatized hangars and helmets is less than the cost of losing multiple planes in a single battle.

The F-35 will shoot down any non stealth plane like the Eurofighter or Rafale before said planes even know the F-35 is in the air. The F-35 can drop a nuclear bomb and no one will know until the bay doors are open and the bomb has begun falling. A large formation of F-35s can wipe out enemy AD systems and no one will know till the anti radiation missiles have launched.

So yes, there must be a reason the US and other rich and powerful countries use the F-35. It is superior to every other plane on the planet save the F-22 and J-20.
 

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I think the OP fail to emphasis the significance of this radar.

China has all kinds of anti-stealth radar for decades, and they even export anti-stealth radars to others.

And no, OTH radar is not the answer to stealth aircrafts since OTH radar are easier to be overpowered/countermeasured and not accurate enough (contain significant positioning and timing errors) for fire-control, and even in the OTH radar area, China is pioneering in anti-stealth OTH radar which using massive information processing to overcome the accuracy problem of OTH radar.

The radar OP talked about is an utter new kind: Quantum radar, and China is the first country to achieve this unthinkable that deliver a working model of this type of radar.

China is the world most advanced country in Quantum tech, they have the fastest Quantum supercomputer and the best quantum communication system, so it is reasonable that they are the first to develop a quantum radar successfully.
 
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So Greece don't want to buy because of Greece environmental issues, ànd lots of hot countries in the world are dreams to have f-35 in their Air Forces, main thing is that Greece has no $$$ to buy f-35 ànd that's all
Don't mind him,he is young and very passionate. And I'm not saying this to mock him. The rumor is that we might be getting some 24 F-35s in the future. I think that in good hands,the F-35 can be a tool. Give it to the PAF,you can make something good out of it.
Give it to the IAF..."sir ap ke ha stealth why can't carry Brahmos Indian superweapon?"

You know what I mean.
 

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The F-35 will not need to use its gun unless it time travels back to WWII. No plane constantly flies at 1200km/h unless they want to lose all of their fuel. The cost of climatized hangars and helmets is less than the cost of losing multiple planes in a single battle.

The F-35 will shoot down any non stealth plane like the Eurofighter or Rafale before said planes even know the F-35 is in the air. The F-35 can drop a nuclear bomb and no one will know until the bay doors are open and the bomb has begun falling. A large formation of F-35s can wipe out enemy AD systems and no one will know till the anti radiation missiles have launched.

So yes, there must be a reason the US and other rich and powerful countries use the F-35. It is superior to every other plane on the planet save the F-22 and J-20.
Sorry but i dont see the value it would give us
 

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Don't mind him,he is young and very passionate. And I'm not saying this to mock him. The rumor is that we might be getting some 24 F-35s in the future. I think that in good hands,the F-35 can be a tool. Give it to the PAF,you can make something good out of it.
Give it to the IAF..."sir ap ke ha stealth why can't carry Brahmos Indian superweapon?"

You know what I mean.
No F35 for PAF, Indian lobby is extremely effective in US congress, our future will either J35/ joint venture on TFX or joint venture b/w China/Turkey/Pakistan named AZM we have first CAD design of it it is looks like mini YF23
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