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Two US Navy officers look relaxed as they eye a Chinese aircraft carrier in the South China Sea
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Chinese commentators have accused the United States of “cognitive warfare” after the US Navy released a puzzling photo.
The photo shows two naval officers, one with his feet up, calmly watching a Chinese aircraft carrier somewhere in the South China Sea. One Hong Kong newspaper said the photo sends a clear message: “We’re watching you.”
“This staged photograph is definitely ‘cognitive warfare’ to show the US doesn’t regard the PLA [People’s Liberation Army] as an immediate threat,” Lu Li-shih, a former teacher at the Republic of China Naval Academy, told the South China Morning Post.
Mr Lu said the comfortable poses of the two naval officers – commanders Robert Briggs and Richard Slye of the USS Mustin – are meant to show how little fear the United States feels about the Liaoning, a Chinese warship.
“In the photo, Commander Briggs looks very relaxed with his feet up watching the Liaoning ship just a few thousand yards away, while his deputy is also sitting beside him, showing they take their PLA counterparts lightly,” he said.

China has persistently tested the limits of its power in the South China Sea, which includes many disputed territories. Over the past several years, the country has built up artificial islands in areas claimed by other countries, including Japan and the Philippines, and then swarmed those islands with warships.
Just last month, China refused to remove 183 of its vessels from the Whitsun Reef, which the Philippines says is well within its territory. The US sided with the Philippines.

“Beijing pretty clearly thinks that if it uses enough coercion and pressure over a long enough period of time, it will squeeze the Southeast Asians out,” Greg Poling, director of the Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative, told the New York Times. “It’s insidious.”

If the US is worried about the buildup, it didn’t look that way in Sunday’s Navy photo – but experts say the fact that the picture exists at all may be a sign of concern. Chris Cavas, an American journalist who covers Navy issues, said the US doesn’t usually acknowledge its monitoring of Chinese ships.

“Very unusual image of the commanding officer and executive officer of #destroyer USS #MUSTIN DDG89 as they shadow #Chinese #carrier #LIAONING 16 in the Philippine Sea on 4 April,” Mr Cavas tweeted. “US #Navy rarely acknowledges both its efforts to shadow Chinese ships and Chinese shadowing US ships.”

Then, almost as soon as the photo made waves, it was gone. Later on Sunday, the snap was no longer on the Navy’s press page, the Defense Visual Information Distribution Service.

“Uh-oh,” Mr Cavas tweeted, “DVIDS has pulled the MUSTIN bridge wing pic…”
The photo is still visible on the Navy’s official “Photo Gallery” page, however. And in any case, if it was meant to send a message, China has already received it.

 
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Funny pictures aside this shows the level of competence that the PLAN have by letting a single ship passes through and within spitting (striking) distance of a capital ship.

LOL, silly assumption of yours :lol:

Carrier never sail alone, it will be always accompanied by destroyer, fregat, submarine, etc. If you can't see them in this photo doesn't mean they are non existent. Be a little bit smarter.
 
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LOL, silly assumption of yours :lol:

Carrier never sail alone, it will be always accompanied by destroyer, fregat, submarine, etc. If you can't see them in this photo doesn't mean they are non existent. Be a little bit smarter.
Do you understand Chinese? Here a video that summarizes quite well about this public "feel brave" show of US navy.
 

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PLAN could have done the same to US aircraft carrier but Chinese are not acting like kid which the US do.

The american military always try to sell a macho image for local consumption but we all know the limit of American military. A small little Iran attack US base in iraq with ballistic missiles and all US military might can response is to ask for peace!

What is even there to talk about for US when facing a much bigger China? :enjoy:
LOL, silly assumption of yours :lol:

Carrier never sail alone, it will be always accompanied by destroyer, fregat, submarine, etc. If you can't see them in this photo doesn't mean they are non existent. Be a little bit smarter.
Precisely, if I used the author stupid explanation. USN must be spineless and incompetent too?


There is a limit of interception in an international sea. You cannot stop anybody on international sea. China only claim the islet inside nine dash line and not the whole sea. Of cos fake US media will spin another story. :enjoy:
 
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LOL, silly assumption of yours :lol:

Carrier never sail alone, it will be always accompanied by destroyer, fregat, submarine, etc. If you can't see them in this photo doesn't mean they are non existent. Be a little bit smarter.
Any competent navy would not allow a single ship to pass through a squadron and anywhere near a capital ship. The point of an escorts is to make sure things like this never happens.

Also if you seen the picture it's within harpoon range. Means if the destroyer captain wanted it would have SINK A CARRIER like it was nothing. If it was real that mean china would lost a carrier.

This is pretty much telling how easy it would be to wipe out the chinese fleet if conflict start.
 

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Any competent navy would not allow a single ship to pass through a squadron and anywhere near a capital ship. The point of an escorts is to make sure things like this never happens.

There is no such a rule. This rule is another silly assumption of yours.

USS Mustin did not pass through the middle of the fleets, it just shadowed the China's fleet closely; and there was no reason for Liaoning fleet to get rid/attack Mustin nor avoiding it, because it was China's own initiative to pass through Taiwan strait which scared Taiwan and was considered as threat by US, thats why US sent Mustin to shadow the fleet, so why China must start WW3 by firing missile to the Mustin? :lol:

China did not need to fear of the shadowing Mustin, because the Mustin was also monitored closely by Liaoning's escort, and China knew Mustin did not dare to do attack, otherwise WW3 will happen :laugh:


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Also if you seen the picture it's within harpoon range. Means if the destroyer captain wanted it would have SINK A CARRIER like it was nothing. If it was real that mean china would lost a carrier.
Picture can be edited; news say the picture can't be accessed anymore, could be because it is an edited picture.

This is pretty much telling how easy it would be to wipe out the chinese fleet if conflict start.

LOLs. Your silly assumptions and ignorance is always so fascinating, demonstrating naiveness and silliness :lol:

This kind of ship shadowing another ship from other navy only can happen during in peaceful time; do not expect the USS Mustin can survive against liaoning escort, or Liaoning fleet will let it shadow them during war time, a missile from type 052 or J-15 will destroy the Mustin certainly

It is normal for warships and warplanes of different countries to track and monitor each other outside of territorial waters and airspace, as long as they abide by international regulations to prevent collisions, keep safe distances and avoid other accidents, Captain (retired) Tian Shichen, president of the Global Governance Institution think tank and director of the Center for International Law of Military Operations, told the Global Times at the time.
 

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There is no such a rule. This rule is another silly assumption of yours.

USS Mustin did not pass through the middle of the fleets, it just shadowed the China's fleet closely; and there was no reason for Liaoning fleet to get rid/attack Mustin nor avoiding it, because it was China's own initiative to pass through Taiwan strait which scared Taiwan and was considered as threat by US, thats why US sent Mustin to shadow the fleet, so why China must start WW3 by firing missile to the Mustin? :lol:

China did not need to fear of the shadowing Mustin, because the Mustin was also monitored closely by Liaoning's escort, and China knew Mustin did not dare to do attack, otherwise WW3 will happen :laugh:


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LOLs. Your silly assumptions and ignorance is always so fascinating, demonstrating naiveness and silliness :lol:

This kind of ship shadowing another ship from other navy only can happen during in peaceful time; do not expect the USS Mustin can survive against liaoning escort, or Liaoning fleet will let it shadow them during war time, a missile from type 052 or J-15 will destroy the Mustin certainly

It is normal for warships and warplanes of different countries to track and monitor each other outside of territorial waters and airspace, as long as they abide by international regulations to prevent collisions, keep safe distances and avoid other accidents, Captain (retired) Tian Shichen, president of the Global Governance Institution think tank and director of the Center for International Law of Military Operations, told the Global Times at the time.
In what planet that a carrier was not closely guarded by her escort even in a patrol. This is a show of competence of the PLAN by leaving the Liaoning alone they just basically show how the Chinese still have a lot to do.

Su pointed out that in carrier battle groups the mothership should have friendly frigates flanking it on either side. However, in this case, there was nothing between the Liaoning and the Mustin, thus exposing the carrier to direct attack.

If this was real China would purge the entire navy or the fleet captain at least for sheer incompetence.

A DD lost to take out a CVL is a net victory. How ignorant you have to be not to know this simple fact.
 

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In what planet that a carrier was not closely guarded by her escort even in a patrol. This is a show of competence of the PLAN by leaving the Liaoning alone they just basically show how the Chinese still have a lot to do.

You repeat the busted silly assumption again.

Who said Liaoning was not guarded or escorted, or sometimes can sail alone without escort?
If the escorting ship did not destroy Mustin doesn't mean they were non existent :rofl:

All news clearly said Liaoning and the escorts were shadowed by Mustin. Read news well first.


If this was real China would purge the entire navy or the fleet captain at least for sheer incompetence.

A DD lost to take out a CVL is a net victory. How ignorant you have to be not to know this simple fact.

So you are saying that Liaoning was supposed to destroy Mustin? why? Mustin did not threat Liaoning nor sent any warning :laugh:

Read it:
 

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You repeat the busted silly assumption again.

Who said Liaoning was not guarded or escorted, or sometimes can sail alone without escort?
If the escorting ship did not destroy Mustin doesn't mean they were non existent :rofl:

All news clearly said Liaoning and the escorts were shadowed by Mustin. Read news well first.




So you are saying that Liaoning was supposed to destroy Mustin? why? Mustin did not threat Liaoning nor sent any warning :laugh:

Read it:
If the sailors in charge of Liaoning taskforce is this bad during routine patrol then imagine those guys in actual combat mission.

Globaltimes is a chinese rags not even fit for wiping. A perceived enemy ship manages to close in on a Carrier alone is already bad in on it self.

You can try to gaslight yourself to believe in it. In other military forum we just laugh at you guys,
 

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If the sailors in charge of Liaoning taskforce is this bad during routine patrol then imagine those guys in actual combat mission.
In actual combat: USS Mustin must have been shot by J-15 or destroyed by Type 055 renhai, before it was able to approach the Liaoning CBG.

Thanks God it is not actual combat, hence Mustin is still let alive not destroyed ;)

Globaltimes is a chinese rags not even fit for wiping. A perceived enemy ship manages to close in on a Carrier alone is already bad in on it self.

You can try to gaslight yourself to believe in it. In other military forum we just laugh at you guys,

Globaltimes is a lie, but your silly imagination/assumption is correct? :laugh:

LOL. You are building silly assumption on the top of a propaganda photo.
The photo means nothing, only means Liaoning take Mustin lightly because it is not a wartime.
 
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The PLAN: still growing ever stronger.
The OP: still impotently hating and trolling.

If China has all these enemies, why don't they dare attack it? If you believe the USN is so much stronger, why doesn't it attack? It's now or never; China only gets stronger and more aggressive with each passing day.

Now or never.
 

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The PLAN: still growing ever stronger.
The OP: still impotently hating and trolling.

If China has all these enemies, why don't they dare attack it? If you believe the USN is so much stronger, why doesn't it attack? It's now or never; China only gets stronger and more aggressive with each passing day.

Now or never.

The OP has the same mentality/syndrome with @striver44.
 

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The OP has the same mentality/syndrome with @striver44.
Well, there are lots of very stupid people in the world. For example, I follow the unrest in Myanmar fairly closely, and there's no end of unarmed idiots going out into the streets and getting shot by the military. They're dying like poultry in a factory farm and still there's no end to them. They truly think chanting slogans about democracy makes them bulletproof. Pure wishful thinking, nothing more.

Just like the OP thinks some cartoons and sarcastic articles are going to diminish China's power or "free the Uighurs" or whatever his thing is. Wishful thinkers with their heads in the sand unable to cope with the new realities of power.
 

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The U.S. military exerted "maximum pressure" in the South China Sea last year thanks to "unprecedented" Navy and Air Force deployments to the area, a Chinese think tank has said in its latest report.

Strategic weapons platforms including carrier strike groups and amphibious ready groups were present in the contested waters for more days than any period in recent memory, the South China Sea Strategic Situation Probing Initiative (SCSPI) said Friday.

"The intensity, in terms of the scale, number and duration, of the U.S. military activities in the region in 2020 was rarely seen in recent years," said the 38-page report released in both Chinese and English.

"Media from Taiwan emphasized the pose shows the U.S. doesn't take the [PLA] seriously, reflecting some people in Taiwan placing strong hope on the U.S.," his editorial read.

The release of the image, which he suggests showed "arrogance," was a "shallow move" that worked, Hu wrote.

He added: "But the U.S. military's arrogance ... has long been shattered in the coastal waters of China. The U.S. military cannot do whatever it wants in China's surrounding waters where the PLA is capable of substantially subduing U.S impetuousness."

The editor-in-chief predicted that continued U.S. support for Taiwan and its quasi-independence would lead to war across the Taiwan Strait—not because China wants one, but because American backing would embolden Taipei "to engage in reckless moves."

China would be "fully prepared" for possible intervention by U.S. forces in a Taiwan Strait contingency, Hu warned. "We believe that our will to deal with extreme conflicts in the [strait] is far greater than that of the U.S."


Despite China's verbal and military threats, discussions about the commanders on USS Mustin continued in Taiwan this week. Analysts noted the relaxed nature of the encounter, which they said suggested the Chinese navy posed no threat to the United States.

Others also noted the framing of the image, which appeared to display Liaoning alone and without its five escorts.

At a legislative hearing with Taiwan's lawmakers on Thursday, the country's deputy defense minister, Chang Che-ping, was repeatedly asked about the single picture and its significance.
 

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With these massive presence in SCS, why US doesn't dare to attack China or spratly island military base?

Doesn't US consider the China's military base on artificial island is illegal?
 

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