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Never underestimate the requirement of having gun on fighter. If there's a B-2 about to enter cruise missile effective range and your J-20 ran out of PL-10 while PL-15 can't track, you can still destroy the B-2 using gun. Also if J-20 is up against F-22 and missiles don't work due to stealth, the gun is all you can count on. J-20 & F-22 never met in combat, both won't know if their missiles would be able to hit each other.
You are forgetting EOTS and IR-guided missiles with SALCOS.
 

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Stats are unveiled. It is 21.2 meters long and Mach 2.0 capable.
Long long time ago i said it is near 21,3 meters check MiG-29 post in sino defence nobody believe and so was Su-35 purchase and so was J-10 only can do cobra with thrust vectoring and Su-57-5 was going to be rebuilt, of course while some hate aerodynamics, aerodynamics tell things things people do not see.

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he size of the J-20 seems to be around 21 meters something between 20.5 and 21.5, all these pixels are difficult to see where a fighter starts and ends and most western or Russian estimates gave a 21-23 meters length.

Which is pretty accurate considering here many were saying it was 19.5 meters

 

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Long long time ago i said it is near 21,3 meters check MiG-29 post in sino defence nobody believe and so was Su-35 purchase and so was J-10 only can do cobra with thrust vectoring and Su-57-5 was going to be rebuilt, of course while some hate aerodynamics, aerodynamics tell things things people do not see.

Great Victory MiG-29

he size of the J-20 seems to be around 21 meters something between 20.5 and 21.5, all these pixels are difficult to see where a fighter starts and ends and most western or Russian estimates gave a 21-23 meters length.

Which is pretty accurate considering here many were saying it was 19.5 meters

I'm the only 1 believed your details. Now they know and owe you big apology.

The J-20 length is obviously at around 70ft with its height at 16ft yet it looks so long clearly tells that it has length close to Su-27, RA-5C & F-111 category.

Unlike YF-23 that is only 12ft in height it looks long and already at 67ft. So J-20 at 16ft to look that long would be 70ft at least.

The J-10 small wing surface area definitely can't perform cobra without TVC. Its wings are even smaller than Rafale & EF-2000.
 

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You are forgetting EOTS and IR-guided missiles with SALCOS.
Those probably works but the question here is, if the J-20 ran out of PL-10, there's no guarantee that the PL-15 could track and home in on the B-2 within visual range. If the PL-15 can't acquire lock and the B-2 is getting into its cruise missiles effective range, is the J-20 going to ram the B-2 in kamikaze because it doesn't have gun?
 

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