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The Chief designer of J20 Yang wei passed his national college entrance examnation (Gaokao) and went to the universty at 15.

Yang Wei had fateful journey to arrive at his education, achievements and career today. Even though his exam score met the Northwestern Polytechnical University standard but he's color blind thus failed the physical & health requirements. Fortunately his school teacher knowing his good marks helped him by making some call to the university, and it happened that the head of the department in NWPU, a student of Qian Xuesen, was also color blind. Yang Wei was asked to come and met in person, and eventually was admitted to the NWPU.

And another crossroad, also from his own words in above footage, at one point of time he was just short of one point mark to get the first place when there's a vacant for government scholarship for studying abroad, thus the other candidate who was selected. Upon his flash back, that narrow miss was helpful for his life. Had he obtained that scholarship and studied abroad, he might not have been what he's today.

Some story about his admission into the prestigious Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS):

如何看待歼20战机总设计师杨伟当选中国科学院院士? - 知乎
 
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Yang Wei had fateful journey to arrive at his education, achievements and career today. Even though his exam score met the Northwestern Polytechnical University standard but he's color blind thus failed the physical & health requirements. Fortunately his school teacher knowing his good marks helped him by making some call to the university, and it happened that the head of the department in NWPU, a student of Qian Xuesen, was also color blind. Yang Wei was asked to come and met in person, and eventually was admitted to the NWPU.

And another crossroad, also from his own words in above footage, at one point of time he was just short of one point mark to get the first place when there's a vacant for government scholarship for studying abroad, thus the other candidate who was selected. Upon his flash back, that narrow miss was helpful for his life. Had he obtained that scholarship and studied abroad, he might not have been what he's today.

Some story about his admission into the prestigious Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS):

如何看待歼20战机总设计师杨伟当选中国科学院院士? - 知乎
He once wanted to leave CAC for Japan but Song weng cong given him the opportunity to be his right arm man.

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Besides the news concerning the eventually halted J-10C deliveries, this is the - at least IMO - even more important part:

So come on ... please show us such a J-20A with 61x2x-serials!??

PS: And yes I know this image of J-20A no. 61021 is a BAD FAKE. :fie:

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Why would China stop J10C deliveries? Granted J20 is very good, but the platforms form different roles? Do you have an article/news story on this stop ?
 

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Why would China stop J10C deliveries? Granted J20 is very good, but the platforms form different roles? Do you have an article/news story on this stop ?

Here you go:

 

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Why would China stop J10C deliveries? Granted J20 is very good, but the platforms form different roles? Do you have an article/news story on this stop ?
J-10C is only good for home border patrol and air to ground search & destroy roles more towards defensive. The J-20A has the combat radius to cover larger area and ideal for offensive. If J-20A willing to forgo stealth could carry far more air to ground armaments and with the FLIR pod, it could perform search and destroy roles with less risk from being targeted by enemy SAM compared to J-10C. Rather than wasting resources on building J-10C with limited role, better build more J-20A/B instead.
Besides the news concerning the eventually halted J-10C deliveries, this is the - at least IMO - even more important part:

So come on ... please show us such a J-20A with 61x2x-serials!??

PS: And yes I know this image of J-20A no. 61021 is a BAD FAKE. :fie:

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Replace J-11? Not phasing out totally obsolete old J-7 and J-8?
 

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Stop it with your Stupid conspiracy theory, J-20 is not multirole stealth jet, it has a similar mission profile than F-22, first Mission for J-20 is always AIR SUPERIORITY and then it SECONDRY MISSION WILL BE GROUND ATTACK/CAS/ANTI SHIPING ROLE, just like F-22
This is not conspiracy but facts. Why do you think the purpose of J-20 having built-in FLIR pod similar to F-35 underneath the nose radome for? That is for search and destroy purpose allowing J-20 to designate ground targets. F-14A/B, F-15C & F-22 don't have FLIR pods because their roles are solely air to air. F-22A can't carry JDAM but could carry GPS guided SDB if really necessary but the plan was scrapped.

China is not planning to have its variant of F-35 therefore stealth strategic strike role is flown by J-20. FC-31 is test bed for J-35 and also for export market won't enter service with PLAAF. When there's J-20 carrying air to ground armaments, what will you say then? It was stated in PLAAF statement that J-20 is meant for multi-role fighter bomber, not just a fighter which is why they made the internal bay large enough to fit air to ground missiles and bombs that it could designate ground targets.
 
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J-10C is only good for home border patrol and air to ground search & destroy roles more towards defensive. The J-20A has the combat radius to cover larger area and ideal for offensive. If J-20A willing to forgo stealth could carry far more air to ground armaments and with the FLIR pod, it could perform search and destroy roles with less risk from being targeted by enemy SAM compared to J-10C. Rather than wasting resources on building J-10C with limited role, better build more J-20A/B instead.


Replace J-11? Not phasing out totally obsolete old J-7 and J-8?
Stop you stupid conspiracy theory about J-20, J-20 is not a multirole jet but its primary mission will be always AIR SUPERIORTY and then its has secondary missions of strike/cas just like F-22, stop being stupid, J-20 isn't a STEALTH VERSION OF SU-34 as you think
This is not conspiracy but facts. Why do you think the purpose of J-20 having built-in FLIR pod similar to F-35 underneath the nose radome for? That is for search and destroy purpose allowing J-20 to designate ground targets. F-14A/B, F-15C & F-22 don't have FLIR pods because their roles are solely air to air. F-22A can't carry JDAM but could carry GPS guided SDB if really necessary but the plan was scrapped.

China is not planning to have its variant of F-35 therefore stealth strategic strike role is flown by J-20. FC-31 is test bed for J-35 and also for export market won't enter service with PLAAF. When there's J-20 carrying air to ground armaments, what will you say then? It was stated in PLAAF statement that J-20 is meant for multi-role fighter bomber, not just a fighter which is why they made the internal bay large enough to fit air to ground missiles and bombs that it could designate ground targets.
Your this false theory is already debunk by senior Chinese member here J-20 ETOS is basically a stealth oriented IRST (to detect air targets first than it has secondary mission to detect and destroy ground target) with only glide bombs and wind corrected munitions, same like F-22
 
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J-10C is only good for home border patrol and air to ground search & destroy roles more towards defensive. The J-20A has the combat radius to cover larger area and ideal for offensive. If J-20A willing to forgo stealth could carry far more air to ground armaments and with the FLIR pod, it could perform search and destroy roles with less risk from being targeted by enemy SAM compared to J-10C. Rather than wasting resources on building J-10C with limited role, better build more J-20A/B instead.


Replace J-11? Not phasing out totally obsolete old J-7 and J-8?

This is quite a typical habit, the PLAAF replaces the old top-tier fighters (like in this case the old Su-30MKK and J-11/Su-27SK) with the new top-tier fighter in the elite regiments/brigades and then replaces even older types like J-7 and J-7 with those fighters. As such, nothing unusual nor unexpected.

For example the former 44th Division's 131st AR was the first to receive the J-10A ... and when they gained J-10C the J-10A were delivered to the 132nd AR to replace J-7.
 

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This is quite a typical habit, the PLAAF replaces the old top-tier fighters (like in this case the old Su-30MKK and J-11/Su-27SK) with the new top-tier fighter in the elite regiments/brigades and then replaces even older types like J-7 and J-7 with those fighters. As such, nothing unusual nor unexpected.

For example the former 44th Division's 131st AR was the first to receive the J-10A ... and when they gained J-10C the J-10A were delivered to the 132nd AR to replace J-7.
They are essentially the hand-me-down clothes of the fighter jet world.
 

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