absolutely - when @ghazi52 and @Windjammer post photos of some really battered M3s or 5s' you can see the overall cobblework. It just goes to point what @Bilal Khan (Quwa) notes in his last posts - a total malaise which has bred incompetence and inability to see the future. Now, what concerns me more is the post if you criticise your armed forces, that will put you behind bars; this is incomprehensible as it is a slippery slope imo..Any honest view point can be misused.Denel, the point being missed here over and over again is that PAF never wanted to continue with the mirages, but has been forced by the circumstances to minimally upgrade them. Like you have said on many occasions that, Had they been interested in the 90s, paf could have started manufacturing cheetahs in collaboration with south africa. That train left the station decades ago. PAF always wanted to build their force around f16s, rightly so, but it was a pipe dream at best, and never to be fully realized....and that made paf oblivious of other fighter priorities. We could have had two types of locally made jets by now.
Think of it another way; HMS - yes a lot has evolved but put yourself back then, HMS was on the Cheetah long before even F16s had them. Kukri AAMs/Darter with their slaving head seekers were far ahead; you would have had the ability to have homegrown knowledge on sensors too. Too much lost imo.