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Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

Should Pakistan upgrade its Mirages to South African Cheetah standard if not Beyond?

  • Yes

    Votes: 146 59.6%
  • No

    Votes: 99 40.4%

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Clairvoyant

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Well they are wrong. 500KG = 1100 LBs. Those would be massive.
The above picture has 4 x Rockeye cluster bombs (or whatever is the local version called)


These are the local version of Mk.20 cluster bombs and each one weighs around 450Ib's, they're locally called PSD-1. The picture is basically a screenshot from a video that was shot a couple of years ago. The Mirage-V in the video is actually carrying 10 Cluster bombs along with two AIM.9P's.

Sadly Air International is wrong there,they're 750Ib Mk.117 bombs.
 

Gripen9

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These are the local version of Mk.20 cluster bombs and each one weighs around 450Ib's, they're locally called PSD-1. The picture is basically a screenshot from a video that was shot a couple of years ago. The Mirage-V in the video is actually carrying 10 Cluster bombs along with two AIM.9P's.

Sadly Air International is wrong there,they're 750Ib Mk.117 bombs.
Yeah, I have seen 4 x durandals on the fuel tanks in the past but nothing that big.

Even with 750 lb means each hardpoint has almost 3500-4000 lb load!
 

Zulfiqar

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These are the local version of Mk.20 cluster bombs and each one weighs around 450Ib's, they're locally called PSD-1. The picture is basically a screenshot from a video that was shot a couple of years ago. The Mirage-V in the video is actually carrying 10 Cluster bombs along with two AIM.9P's.

Sadly Air International is wrong there,they're 750Ib Mk.117 bombs.
If only we could replace those with equal number of SDBs then that would help a lot in stand off attack against an air field.
 

Windjammer

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Well they are wrong. 500KG = 1100 LBs. Those would be massive.
The above picture has 4 x Rockeye cluster bombs (or whatever is the local version called)
Yes that's why i quoted 500 pounders thinking that it was an error by the journal.
The other image was for reference only showing CBU units attached to the drop tanks, something pioneered by the French. The 500 0r 750 pound iron bombs are visible in the below image.
Another novel idea was the SNEB rocket pods also present, the rear part of those acted as an auxiliary fuel tank.


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Gripen9

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Yes that's why i quoted 500 pounders thinking that it was an error by the journal.
The other image was for reference only showing CBU units attached to the drop tanks, something pioneered by the French. The 500 0r 750 pound iron bombs are visible in the below image.
Another novel idea was the SNEB rocket pods also present, the rear part of those acted as an auxiliary fuel tank.


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This is a nice photo. Notice the single Matra 530 SARG missile under center line hard point. I have seen the rocket pod/fuel tank combo in action. the rocket exhaust from the sides is a sight to see.
 

Windjammer

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This is a nice photo. Notice the single Matra 530 SARG missile under center line hard point. I have seen the rocket pod/fuel tank combo in action. the rocket exhaust from the sides is a sight to see.
Another old image with MATRA 530 infra red seeker removed and a PAF Mirage -VPA firing rockets.

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This maybe off topic.
But this is a highly modernized Columbian (FAC) Kfir C10. Carrying 2xpython3, 2x derby BVR, lightening pod, 1 LGB and a standoff weapon.
A lot can still be done with the Mirage III platform :P

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This maybe off topic.
But this is a highly modernized Columbian (FAC) Kfir C10. Carrying 2xpython3, 2x derby BVR, lightening pod, 1 LGB and a standoff weapon.
A lot can still be done with the Mirage III platform :P
PAF focus is JF-17B3 at present. Mirage has provided what Pakistan was looking for to counter Indian threat in nineties and early twenties.
Innovative solutions have provided Israel an edge, Had it been undertaken alone or with help and guidance of Dassault France? Pakistan has to play with airframe for additional hard points and gadgets.
 

araz

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PAF focus is JF-17B3 at present. Mirage has provided what Pakistan was looking for to counter Indian threat in nineties and early twenties.
Innovative solutions have provided Israel an edge, Had it been undertaken alone or with help and guidance of Dassault France? Pakistan has to play with airframe for additional hard points and gadgets.
The life and utility of the frame is gone. Let it go in peace. It is like trying to breath back into a 90 years old man who has stopped breathing. It just does not work.
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denel

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PAF focus is JF-17B3 at present. Mirage has provided what Pakistan was looking for to counter Indian threat in nineties and early twenties.
Innovative solutions have provided Israel an edge, Had it been undertaken alone or with help and guidance of Dassault France? Pakistan has to play with airframe for additional hard points and gadgets.
Look friend, in order to go to the level you want, that means having the abilities for new alloys etc to begin with that are not present. The time for keeping this airframe going is past way its expiry date and longer it is up it is a death trap for pilots overall. Sure, you will most likely have a very dedicated birds that up to the mark for next 10yrs; the remainder will be put to rest in peace as 17b matures or another dedicated strike role bird comes in. The time you are referring to was 20+ yrs back when a Cheetah upgrade program should have been done; but that is history. Let us hope it is not repeated.
 

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