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Should Pakistan upgrade its Mirages to South African Cheetah standard if not Beyond?

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ziaulislam

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In the light of the revelation of a J10 model and the possibility of induction of J10 how will it effect the mirage fleet. Will we still retain a couple of squadron for lamd strike role? Somehow I dont see the mirages going till 2025.
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Mirgae 5 2-3 squardons will remain well into 2030
Unless miraculously we get a huge j10/f16 order

They will serve for raad & h1/2 delivery
 

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The Mirages are certainly not going anywhere any time soon.
Apart from proving their capability during swift retort, currently they are the only fast jets to deliver both the Exocet and ALCMs.
The Exocet has been largely superceded by the CM-400AKG and C-803 AShM while the H2/4 has been replaced by the redesigned Raad, REK kits for bombs, and Chinese ASMs. The Mirages will be around for as long as it takes JF-17 numbers to be built to replace them.
 

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The Exocet has been largely superceded by the CM-400AKG and C-803 AShM while the H2/4 has been replaced by the redesigned Raad, REK kits for bombs, and Chinese ASMs. The Mirages will be around for as long as it takes JF-17 numbers to be built to replace them.
JF-17 can't carry Raad last I checked. Plus the JF-17 wasn't intended to replace at least the ROSE Mirages.
 

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Since creation of Israel, focal point of every event happening in the middle east is/was Israel.

Israel consider Pakistan as a serious threat to its very existence. Though the aerial distance between the two countries is less than 3300 km, but even than Israel tried to target Pakistani nuclear assets.

Pakistan stance on not recognizing Israel is directly linked to IOJK. Pakistan support fair deal for people of Palestine who were illegally ejected from their homeland.

With acquisition of F-35s and assess to bases in UAE will definitely enable Israeli AF to target Pakistani strategic and nuclear assets. One of the reasons why Israeli supported UAE to procure F-35s is apparently having an F-35 support base on UAE soil.

It is not in the interest of Israel, US and western allies, that

1 Strong eastern block be formed to challenge their market monopoly.
2. De-linking petro-dollar. (It will also effect Arab monarchies)
3. Pakistan becoming strong, economically independent and influential state in the region.

CPEC, Belt Road initiative and EAEU are the beginning of the western nightmare.

Pakistan being a weak link in this great game, is an obvious target. Indians are being used to directly offend and pressurize Pakistan to give away CPEC.

So in my opinion, if China consider CPEC as its one of the precious life line than China will open its arsenal to Pakistan Military.

J-20 and other weapon systems are very much a possibility.

Delivery of 50 hi tech Winglong 2 drones to Pakistan Military is one the indications, that China is very much serious.

History reveals that today's enemy is tomorrow's friend and vise versa. The great game is all about make and break the market monopoly and overall domination.
UAE along with other GCC Countries are our brothers and allies. Ups and downs are part of any relationship, but GCC is home to millions of Pakistani Expats and businesses.

UAE is not a military threat to Pakistan. Pakistan should have diplomatic ties with Israel.
 

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UAE along with other GCC Countries are our brothers and allies. Ups and downs are part of any relationship, but GCC is home to millions of Pakistani Expats and businesses.

UAE is not a military threat to Pakistan. Pakistan should have diplomatic ties with Israel.
UAE and KSA has practically joined Israel camp, and we opted their opposite. So the chance of their turn into threat is not very far off. Pakistan should not sacrifice its interests for the sake of these Arabs and others.
Pakistan has been walking on tight rope to keep US on his side erstwhile, but US has gone for India as its new ally in the new world order. The chances of any betterment in the relationship are very bleak but still on the table because of Afghanistan in a limited level.
Ultimately, Pakistan has to choose J10C for F16 and to replace mirages to counter Indian Rafaels.
How quickly this decision is taken? This depends on options and foresight of the PAF leaders.Soon We will see J10c in large nos along with its other dragon brother.
 

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UAE and KSA has practically joined Israel camp, and we opted their opposite. So the chance of their turn into threat is not very far off. Pakistan should not sacrifice its interests for the sake of these Arabs and others.
Pakistan has been walking on tight rope to keep US on his side erstwhile, but US has gone for India as its new ally in the new world order. The chances of any betterment in the relationship are very bleak but still on the table because of Afghanistan in a limited level.
Ultimately, Pakistan has to choose J10C for F16 and to replace mirages to counter Indian Rafaels.
How quickly this decision is taken? This depends on options and foresight of the PAF leaders.Soon We will see J10c in large nos along with its other dragon brother.
Pakistan has a big trade relationship with the US. Every effort should be made to enhance our relationship with the US. Economic growth is key to any standing around the globe. India has grown economically and increased its financial standing. It is part of G20 and has an economic relationship with every continent. That is what Pakistan needs to do is to strengthen its economy and economic relationship with many countries. The rest will follow.
 

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An early image of PAF Mirage III EP releasing Eight 500 Pound Bombs.

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These are 750Ib bombs which are being carried on an RPK.10 combined fuel/bomb carrier. It had a 500 litres fuel capacity and 4 bombs could be attached to it.

Quite an impressive bomb load to be honest though this configuration was/is infrequently used.
 
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The Raven

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JF-17 can't carry Raad last I checked. Plus the JF-17 wasn't intended to replace at least the ROSE Mirages.
There is speculation the redesigned Raad with X-tail could be carried by JF-17. With integration of Chinese and Turkish LDP, as well as IFR, REK bombs, and other PGMs, it's more than capable of taking on the role of ROSE Mirages. The Mirages are still going due to their capability to use H2/4 but these PGMs are now outdated.
 

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These are 750Ib bombs which are being carried on an RPK.10 combined fuel/bomb carrier. It had a 500 litres fuel capacity and 4 bombs could be attached to it.

Quite an impressive bomb load to be honest though this configuration was/is infrequently used.
Well i was only quoting what Air International reported. In fact they are saying these are 500 KG Bombs.


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