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    Calibri designer reacts to Maryam Nawaz’s documents
    July 12, 2017

    By: Samaa Web Desk

    Published in Pakistan

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    ISLAMABAD: Following the JIT report was submitted to the Supreme Court on Monday (July 10), the Calibri font came into the limelight highlighting the forgery in documents presented by Maryam Nawaz.


    According to local newspaper, the creator of Calibri font said the font in question was not available for public use at a time when Maryam Nawaz’s documents were showed to have been created.

    The local newspaper talked to Calibri creator, Lucas de Groot, whose statement demonstrated the documents were faked.

    Responding to the question if the font was available in February 2006 (when the document was signed) or earlier, Lieselotte Schäfer, a representative of his company LucasFonts said, “As discussed with Lucas, here is what we can say about the Calibri release dates: Lucas started designing Calibri in 2002 and sent the final source files to Microsoft not before March 2004.”

    The company’s spokesman also said, “Early Windows betas are intended for programmers and technology freaks to see what works and what doesn’t.”

    Commenting on the query if the font present in such a beta version of a software may have been used by whoever drafted the documents for Maryam Nawaz, Lieselotte Schäfer replied, “As the file size of such operating systems is huge, it would have been a serious effort to get.”

    “As far as I know, the first public beta versions of Calibri were published in 2006. We do not know the exact date for this public release date [but] it is [still] extremely unlikely that somebody would copy fonts from a beta environment to use in official documents,” he added.

    The first public beta version, according to a Wikipedia entry, was released on June 6, 2006 — close to four months after the papers were said to have been signed by Maryam Nawaz.

    The explanation by Groot’s company sheds light on the fact that only people with exceptional capabilities usually subscribe to their use, seeing the fact that the beta versions are unfinished and in testing phase.

    “Office 2007 was the first product officially using Calibri on a large scale,” the company’s statement continues.

    “It was made available to volume license customers (resellers) on November 30, 2006, and later to retail on January 30, 2007, [at] the same [time as the] respective release dates of Windows Vista.”

    Responding personally to the question separately, font designer de Groot said, “While in theory it would have been possible to create a document using Calibri in 2006, the font would have to be obtained from a beta operating system, “from the hands of computer nerds”.

    “Why would anyone use a completely unknown font for an official document in 2006?” he went on to question.

    “If the person using Calibri was such a font lover that he or she had to use the new Calibri, then he or she should be able to prove that other documents were printed with Calibri in 2006, and these prints should be in the hands of other people as well,” he wrote his email addressed to the newspaper.

    De Groot said in his opinion the document signed by Maryam Nawaz was “produced much later, when Calibri was the default font in MS Word”.

    Though the forensic expert engaged by the JIT had made basically the same argument — that the font was not available publicly before January 31, 2007 and therefore unlikely to have been used in an official document dated 2006 — there were some who continued to insist that the font had been in circulation before that and there was nothing suspicious about Maryam Nawaz using it.

    Among these was Barrister Zafarullah Khan, who appeared to mock the forensic expert’s opinion on Tuesday evening during a press conference. During his brief talk, Khan sarcastically directed whoever was making the claim to: “Please Google and see that [the font] was released in August 2004.”

    There were indications that the Wikipedia entry for the Calibri font had also been changed repeatedly to reflect a similar claim till Wikipedia itself placed a hold on editing the page till July 18 “or till editing disputes are solved”.
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    this:
    “If the person using Calibri was such a font lover that he or she had to use the new Calibri, then he or she should be able to prove that other documents were printed with Calibri in 2006, and these prints should be in the hands of other people as well,”



     
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    Imagine if a font is what brings down the government :cheesy: probably never even occurred to them that the font being used was something new. Kudos to the guy/gal that spotted this!
     
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    So what we used typewriter to type that document ........ "hamara kasoor kya hay yeh to bta do"
     
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    I am wondering how on earth JIT members even thought of the font :azn:
     
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    don't underestimate the power of a font :mad:
    those who work with fonts love their font more than they love their gf. :man_in_love:

    Hasina maan jye gi dekh rakhi ho gi. (23:10 - 24:30) :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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    Its not the JIT members who spotted the font.. Infact they sent the document for verification / authentcation to a UK firm, expert in handwriting and document verification..and they responded with the argument , tht document is fake..since the font is calibri and it was made available for commercial use, after 30th jan 2007
     
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    Ahh sorry I forgot the forensic test.
     
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    Ham to kapron aur documents dono kay liye Arial use kartey hain :D
    Bachpan sey sikhaya hy beta Arial font use karo official documents key liye
     
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    video tuo dekh lo 1 bar (23:10 -24:30) :(
     
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    Kiya ink dating nahi karwani chahiye hamain?Ye masla yahien khatam ho

    No Indian content :pissed:
     
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    Bloody Hell. this tubbar is under Allah's JIT. Itni bezti aur ruswai.
     
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    ab Calibri foon b use kro ge ap. wo b deca-core.


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    thori c gunjysh peda kr len? :P
    halaat k tanazur mn fit beth ra ye clip. :D
     
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    Tamam yahod o isi ki sajishon sey pak cpec ki foladi takat wala
    Modi ki team,yaar aur content sab ki thukai karni hy is mulk mein :butcher:
     
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    They engaged a forensic expert in UK. Thats where the investigations were done.

    In a forensic investigation of document, they wouldnt have found blood or fingerprints. They could have only found the font, the print resolution and quality of paper.

    Font has actually nailed it. Fraudsters like Sharif family would not have bought a licensed copy of Microsoft Office. Some NooniToon would have typed those documents on a bootlegged copy of the software.
     
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