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I find USA as pathetic as the Chinese Regime.

I also dont create friction, i just hate communism and dictatorships. In your country is no freedom of speech, you should learn to deal with it.
Absolutely BS typical response from some to try mask their Intentions of smearing China by working for USA propaganda.

Why I never see any of your post targeting US war crime or abuse, US hypocrisy or spying? Maybe u want to claim US did nothing wrong?

What is wrong with China stopping slander and fake news? U mean a democracy countries allow smearing and distortion of facts to degrade a society or using media as a tool to destroy someone reputation to get it's motive?

Are u going to admit there is no fake news or smearing from EU , Japan, USA and Australia aka the democracy?


This is not democracy but a fail moral countries only.
 
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Sure thing, but why is Australia crying about China not buying their crap then?
Buyer seller dependency
Who needs whom more?
It’s like I threaten my car dealer I won’t buy his car if he refuses my relationship to his younger daughter.
people call it blackmail.
 

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Fair enough, every great nation will step on some others feet on their way to greatness. it's a natural human feeling to hate someone who is much better than you.
I dont see China as better as us and USA neither. 99% of Chinese have not even 20% of our living standard, no freedom of speech and are treated like insects by a dictatorship.

In USA the big majority also has a far lower living standard than in Greece, no functional healthcare system. People die because they cant afford to pay the hospital. USA infrastructure is crumbling apart, USA has highest child mortality in the developed world and the intellectual level of large parts of the people is abyssmal.

Im glad that i live in a country and on a continent with highest living standards in the world, with perfect healthcare, infrastructure, human rights, freedom and amazing culture. That is what generates greatness.
 

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Absolutely BS typical response from some to try mask their Intentions of smearing China by working for USA propaganda.

Why I never see any of your post targeting US war crime or abuse, US hypocrisy or spying? Maybe u want to claim US did nothing wrong?

What is wrong with China stopping slander and fake news? U mean a democracy countries allow smearing and distortion of facts to degrade a society or using media as a tool to destroy someone reputation to get it's motive?

Are u going to admit there is no fake news or smearing from EU , Japan, USA and Australia aka the democracy?


This is not democracy but a fail moral countries only.

Who decides in China what is fake news and slander? An unelected party.

Look, the thing is, when i look at myself and then look at China, i see that i could never live there. I find it horrible because im fiercly independend thinking.

In US you have freedom of speech but i would not want to live there either, because most US states are simply shitholes, like Kentucky or Alabama and a moron like Trump can become president there.

In the end i think the problem is have is, that chinese culture is completly alien to us. Greece and China have both thousands of years history but almost nothing in common. Our art, philosophy and way of thinking is very different. So this may also seem to shape how i think about it.
 

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Who decides in China what is fake news and slander? An unelected party.

Look, the thing is, when i look at myself and then look at China, i see that i could never live there. I find it horrible because im fiercly independend thinking.

In US you have freedom of speech but i would not want to live there either, because most US states are simply shitholes, like Kentucky or Alabama and a moron like Trump can become president there.

In the end i think the problem is have is, that chinese culture is completly alien to us. Greece and China have both thousands of years history but almost nothing in common. Our art, philosophy and way of thinking is very different. So this may also seem to shape how i think about it.
Who decide? Facts will decide. If China never kills anybody with facts and witness. Who are you to distort and misled theory?

If I used your theory, why ban ISIS propaganda? Who are u to claim what they teach is wrong since you claim there is nothing as black or white?

Every countries has their own law to save guard citizen right and poverty. WTF are EU and US to decide for China? It is precisely you and US evil imperialism try to impose on others.

Dont use your double standard of EU on China when Spanish police beat up freedom loving Catalan asking for freedom and yet no comdemn for human right champion EU. Bunch of hypocrite monster only.

 

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Who decides in China what is fake news and slander? An unelected party.

Look, the thing is, when i look at myself and then look at China, i see that i could never live there. I find it horrible because im fiercly independend thinking.

In US you have freedom of speech but i would not want to live there either, because most US states are simply shitholes, like Kentucky or Alabama and a moron like Trump can become president there.

In the end i think the problem is have is, that chinese culture is completly alien to us. Greece and China have both thousands of years history but almost nothing in common. Our art, philosophy and way of thinking is very different. So this may also seem to shape how i think about it.
It’s not black and white, the US is not a perfect place however it’s still one of the nicest in the world. Health care is a big issue. Crime rate is terrible. Public transport is not what you will find in Germany. But if you want to study, learn foreign culture, new people, or seeking job, then the US is great location to be there. Open minded is never wrong.
Of course it’s not good thing to use subways to travel to certain places like to Chicago suburbs. I did it then I thought wrong time wrong place.
 

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It’s not black and white, the US is not a perfect place however it’s still one of the nicest in the world. Health care is a big issue. Crime rate is terrible. Public transport is not what you will find in Germany. But if you want to study, learn foreign culture, new people, or seeking job, then the US is great location to be there. Open minded is never wrong.
Of course it’s not good thing to use subways to travel to certain places like to Chicago suburbs. I did it then I thought wrong time wrong place.
Its a horrible place. When u get to US, first thing to get are AK-47 or M-16 assault rifle plus bullet proof vest to protect yourself. :enjoy:

Better to get some RPG in case some muggers gets their hand on some M-48 or M-60 tanks and ran amok.

Deadly Mass Shooting At St. Paul, Minnesota Bar

 

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Its a horrible place. When u get to US, first thing to get are AK-47 or M-16 assault rifle plus bullet proof vest to protect yourself. :enjoy:

Better to get some RPG in case some muggers gets their hand on some M-48 or M-60 tanks and ran amok.

Deadly Mass Shooting At St. Paul, Minnesota Bar

Yes Chicago ghetto reminds me of the south sea. Also a terrible place. Soon more subs than sharks in the waters.
 

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Who decide? Facts will decide. If China never kills anybody with facts and witness. Who are you to distort and misled theory?

If I used your theory, why ban ISIS propaganda? Who are u to claim what they teach is wrong since you claim there is nothing as black or white?

Every countries has their own law to save guard citizen right and poverty. WTF are EU and US to decide for China? It is precisely you and US evil imperialism try to impose on others.

Dont use your double standard of EU on China when Spanish police beat up freedom loving Catalan asking for freedom and yet no comdemn for human right champion EU. Bunch of hypocrite monster only.

What you dont understand is, that there are no "catalans". Its a small movement that did terror attacks and used state money for illegal activities. You should also be careful what you write since the chinese regime official condemed those catalans and sided 100% with Spain.

We dont decide whats going on in China. All i say is, that i would not want to live there.
 

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What you dont understand is, that there are no "catalans". Its a small movement that did terror attacks and used state money for illegal activities. You should also be careful what you write since the chinese regime official condemed those catalans and sided 100% with Spain.

We dont decide whats going on in China. All i say is, that i would not want to live there.
Indeed China condemn these Catalan Independent movement. But EU shall step out of their hypocrisy and stop fanning Taiwan independent movement. There is no seperate state Taiwan only Taiwan province of China.

EU meddling in Taiwan affair just show how ugly these so called human right champion when they suppress one freedom movement within their circle while support other separation. How do u gain respect with such despicable and double standard move?
 
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Indeed China condemn these Catalan Independent movement. But EU shall step out of their hypocrisy and stop fanning Taiwan independent movement. There is no seperate state Taiwan only Taiwan province of China.

EU meddling in Taiwan affair just show how ugly these so called human right champion when they suppress one freedom movement within their circle while support other separation. How do u gain respect with such despicable and double standard move?

We have excellent relations with Taiwan and i think the main difference is, that when you have become a free man you can never live under dictatorship again. CAn China guarantee that Taiwan will have multiple parties and free elections? That Taiwan can keep its own political system?

What we see is that taiwanese people have nothing in common with China. Look, just this year at Spartathlon, we had some participants from Taiwan here and they were announced as "Taiwan-Chinese" in the documents and they were unhappy about this, saying they are Taiwanese and not chinese.

So thats what we see. I dont know how smart the chinese government is but i guess even they realize its impossible for the communist party of china to rule over taiwan. The two nations systems are completly different.
 

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We have excellent relations with Taiwan and i think the main difference is, that when you have become a free man you can never live under dictatorship again. CAn China guarantee that Taiwan will have multiple parties and free elections? That Taiwan can keep its own political system?

What we see is that taiwanese people have nothing in common with China. Look, just this year at Spartathlon, we had some participants from Taiwan here and they were announced as "Taiwan-Chinese" in the documents and they were unhappy about this, saying they are Taiwanese and not chinese.

So thats what we see. I dont know how smart the chinese government is but i guess even they realize its impossible for the communist party of china to rule over taiwan. The two nations systems are completly different.
I just stop here and last reply. If EU or Spain allows Catalan/ Barcelona to be independent, I am sure China will follow. If EU or Spain cant do it. Stop being a hypocrite in name of freedom and righteous and asking others to do what u cant yourself. You just make everybody losing respect for you with such cheap move!
 

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I just stop here and last reply. If EU or Spain allows Catalan/ Barcelona to be independent, I am sure China will follow. If EU or Spain cant do it. Stop being a hypocrite in name of freedom and righteous and asking others to do what u cant yourself. You just make everybody losing respect for you with such cheap move!
Spain is a democracy. China is not.
 

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aussies were, are and will always be mercenaries for hire. by signing nuclear submarine deal with usa they have just painted a nuclear target on their back.
 

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Anti-China team look formidable until you mention India. Do you have an experience during the childhood where it's better not to have him join the team?
Then change your flag to your real flag - Pakistan.
 

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