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This sensationalist report is a whitewash. We already have positive tests of US citizens blood samples from Dec 13. 2019 to Dec 16. 2019 intentionally or not admitted in a study involving the U.S. CDC published Nov. 30 2020. None of them where reported to be linked to China. The study unsurprisingly remained widely unreported in Western media or just vaguely hushed over, when it was a major revelation and deserved at least the attention this new study gets.

This new study using samples from Jan. 7 2020 doesnt "undo" that earlier study, even if they clearly try to accomplish that. When they say "earlier than believed" they mean the old 2020 timeline they just never changed by not reporting about the found December 2019 cases. US propaganda is trying to mentally assert the first cases several weeks after known cases in the USA, while playing it out as transparency over a few earlier cases, of course conveniently they all allegedly happen to point China again, just like the first time they admitted a case in the USA, projecting U.S. responsibility away again.

The USA initialy reported their first case on Jan. 29, 2020, allegedly found on Jan. 21 and again conveniently it was allegedly someone who allegedly returned recently from Wuhan, China.

Yet we already know since then their first cases were found at least as early as Dec 13. 2019 and Dec 16. 2019

The open question that the USA refuses to properly answer remain the same as before:

1) Instead of any the dozen of known first infections (and possibly thousands unknown cases) of a viral virus, the USA conveniently found someone linked to China to be the first case over a months after its actual first by now known cases. Was this really a coincidence?

2) The USA took over a month to "find" one single out of over dozen proven cases. What were they doing in all that time?

3) The USA took several weeks to "find" one single out of over hundred proven cases. What were they doing in all that time?

4) The USA took over three weeks to "find" one single out of over hundred proven cases after China warned the world about the new Corona variant. What were they doing in all that time?

5) The USA initially based on no sensible logic claimed China could have jumped to conclusions "3 weeks earlier", widely recited in US propaganda, if had just disregarded the scientific procedures and just reported a dangerous pandemic rather than merely an unknown outbreak without solid evidence justifying the panic. How can they blame China as reacting slow for this, after taking more than 6 weeks to find and report their own cases.

6) The USA complained that China took about 2 weeks to verify that the new virus is contagious. They themself didnt verify it until a month since China reported new found virus and atleast about 2 months since they had their own first (known) case in the USA. How can they blame China.

It just adds another question

6) After over a year and a half the USA in wake of reviving old projecting conspiracies suddenly "finds" 5 more Jan 2020 cases that point to China, ignoring 100 cases as early as Dec 2020 that they apparently couldnt link to China. What is the purpose of this sensationalism?
 
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I think the virus came from China. Wuhan is the first city hit with Covid. Use your common sense.
 

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PdF tHiNk TaNk: "...it still doesn't mean that it didn't come from China."
WHO: W e are still investigating the origin.
Its like talking to evolution deniers. Doesnt matter how much facts come out that contradict their faith/agenda and unfactual claims, they will always find another gap to hide inside to stick with their faith/agenda until that gets proven wrong too and they jump into the next one. And when they feel like no one notices just revert back to already debunked talking points. At this point we have US cases dating back so far they have no possible relation to the Wuhan market story, other than China inventing timetravel, yet some trolls still go around insisting on calling the latter the starting point. No fucking clue what they are talking about, dishonest about the little shit they kown, but constantly boasting about truth and being logical and using common sense like "cultivated banana fits into human hand = evolution isn't real"

I mean Americans with wide reach are literally starting absurd conspiracies that China infiltrated the U.S. bioweapon lab at Fort Detrick and planted the virus there to spread it so even if we can trace it 100% back to a leak in the USA they can stil hold China responsible and call that "theories".
 
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The anecdotal evidence aside, the antibody samples in Italian sewers and from various people including that US mayor pretty much proves that it was already spreading around long before the Chinese gov detected and contained it in China.

Just like with the "Spanish" flu which actually started in the US, the Americans will fight to the last drop of blood before ever admitting blame for this. Just the fact that China has opened its facilities to inspection while the US refuses speaks volumes about their intentions.
The reason why it's called the Spanish flu isn't because the Americans fought against admitting it originated in the US, and in fact its taught in schools in the US and Canada that it originated there.

The reason why it's called the Spanish flu is that due to war, no one but Spain was reporting on its spread and number of deaths.

Also, China hasn't actually opened up it's facilities, that's a lie and you know it. One of the biggest complaints the WHO had was that China was giving them incomplete data, and wouldn't let them inspect certain locations.
 

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Why are you making things up ?

This is from GOOGLE

Newspapers were free to report the epidemic's effects in neutral Spain, such as the grave illness of King Alfonso XIII, and these stories created a false impression of Spain as especially hard hit. This gave rise to the name "Spanish" flu.

Spanish flu - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Spanish_flu


Btw the first known reported case of the "Spanish" flu was at a military base in Kansas.

Againt the earliest traces of Covid-19 have been found in Italian sewers. The US is completely unwilling to cooperate with any WHO investigation or requests. Even if it had started in the US, the Americans would never freely admit it. They would rather blame anyone from Chinese to Aliens from space rather than take the blame. We both know that.



The reason why it's called the Spanish flu isn't because the Americans fought against admitting it originated in the US, and in fact its taught in schools in the US and Canada that it originated there.

The reason why it's called the Spanish flu is that due to war, no one but Spain was reporting on its spread and number of deaths.

Also, China hasn't actually opened up it's facilities, that's a lie and you know it. One of the biggest complaints the WHO had was that China was giving them incomplete data, and wouldn't let them inspect certain locations.
 

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let's face it, covid19 was american black ops, biological skunk works of you will, to bring China down to its knees but instead but it backfired & but uncle sam in his pink hairy @ss.
 

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Why are you making things up ?

This is from GOOGLE

Newspapers were free to report the epidemic's effects in neutral Spain, such as the grave illness of King Alfonso XIII, and these stories created a false impression of Spain as especially hard hit. This gave rise to the name "Spanish" flu.
Spanish flu - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Spanish_flu


Btw the first known reported case of the "Spanish" flu was at a military base in Kansas.

Againt the earliest traces of Covid-19 have been found in Italian sewers. The US is completely unwilling to cooperate with any WHO investigation or requests. Even if it had started in the US, the Americans would never freely admit it. They would rather blame anyone from Chinese to Aliens from space rather than take the blame. We both know that.
That literally doesn't contradict what I said.

You can blame the US all you want, but the fact that you didn't refute what I said about China says a lot more than you seem to think.

Anyway, this argument is meaningless.
 

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Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks before the first officially reported cases.

Frozen blood samples indicate people in five states -- Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Mississippi and Massachusetts -- were infected with coronavirus days or weeks before any cases were officially reported in those states.

Volunteers taking part in the National Institutes of Health's All of Us study, an ongoing effort to gather health information on 1 million people, donated blood as part of the study. Tests of 24,000 samples taken in early 2020 showed antibodies to coronavirus in the blood of at least nine people, the All of Us researchers reported in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases.


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The presence of COVID antibodies in the blood samples of folks from these 7 states in USA way before the COVID virus was identified in Wuhan is SCIENCE and NOT politic.

Not to mention in some other countries as well.

It is obvious the politicians in certain nation is trying to frame China.

The CDC researchers are Wuhan should be awarded a Nobel Prize and not demonized.
 

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Instead of going full....how about using a bit of critical thinking? I know it's hard, seeing as you don't seem to use your brain that often.

Did the WHO say that the virus didn't come from China?
Misleading, think tank.

Did the WHO say that the virus come from China?
 

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So then what about the earliest traces being found in Italian sewer systems in December of 2019 ? There is even a BBC article on this fact. Last time I checked, the Italian sewer systems do not connect to Wuhan.

That literally doesn't contradict what I said.

You can blame the US all you want, but the fact that you didn't refute what I said about China says a lot more than you seem to think.

Anyway, this argument is meaningless.
Why do you guys keep repeating the same talking points from the western mainstream media like mindless robots ? The earliest scientifically verifiable traces of Covid-19 have been found in sewers in ITALY. A BBC article has confirmed this. Let me guess, China financed the article or used a time travel vortex to plant the evidence ? Yeah that must be it ? You guys are just funny now.


I think the virus came from China. Wuhan is the first city hit with Covid. Use your common sense.
This article basically stabs a spear through the heart of the entire Wuhan conspiracy made up by the USA to prevent China from surpassing the USA in the next few years.

CASE CLOSED. Finito. Asta La Vista BABE.

 

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Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks before the first officially reported cases.

Frozen blood samples indicate people in five states -- Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Mississippi and Massachusetts -- were infected with coronavirus days or weeks before any cases were officially reported in those states.

Volunteers taking part in the National Institutes of Health's All of Us study, an ongoing effort to gather health information on 1 million people, donated blood as part of the study. Tests of 24,000 samples taken in early 2020 showed antibodies to coronavirus in the blood of at least nine people, the All of Us researchers reported in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases.


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Notice how the unpaid employees of the cia say covid leaked from a lab in Wuhan because cia says staff member visited hospital and yet at the same time finding covid19 in frozen blood samples in u.s. totally doesn't mean anything for these guys, This is the complex mechanics of your typical cia andy's barin function.
 

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So then what about the earliest traces being found in Italian sewer systems in December of 2019 ? There is even a BBC article on this fact. Last time I checked, the Italian sewer systems do not connect to Wuhan.


Why do you guys keep repeating the same talking points from the western mainstream media like mindless robots ? The earliest scientifically verifiable traces of Covid-19 have been found in sewers in ITALY. A BBC article has confirmed this. Let me guess, China financed the article or used a time travel vortex to plant the evidence ? Yeah that must be it ? You guys are just funny now.



This article basically stabs a spear through the heart of the entire Wuhan conspiracy made up by the USA to prevent China from surpassing the USA in the next few years.

CASE CLOSED. Finito. Asta La Vista BABE.

What did I say that the virus was created in a Wuhan lab? That's you literally making things up.

Also, guess what? The US cases in this thread started in December of 2019 as well, and as I said, the virus was likely already spread way before it was detected in the first place.

You're going on this useless rant using strawman arguments, when my points are very simple. The fact that you've so far failed to refute my points is telling enough.
Misleading, think tank.

Did the WHO say that the virus come from China?
That's the point, full member.

They're still investigating, so to say that it didn't come from China is also jumping the shark.
 
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