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He should first apologize Balochis and rest of Pakistanis regarding the atrocities his group made in all these years.

He is not really welcome IMHO.
 

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He is a dead horse vis-a-vis new insurgency in Balochistan. The new insurgency has its roots in middle class youths and that will not effect his coming to Pakistan or not. He is only trying to stay relevant. I hope state doesn't select such people again.
you speak with such authority, may i know the source of your knowledge on the issue?
because you're implying that you know more than the govt and military.
 

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He should not be welcome back.. He and his likes did lot of atrocities in balochistan, and worst part took assistance from the enemy to pursue his agenda.. Should be dealt like TTP
 
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Hg should not be welcome back.. He and his likes did lot of atrocities in balochistan, and worst part took assistance from the enemy to pursue his agenda.. Should be dealt like TTP
Sometimes even Abu Sufiyan and Hinda has to be forgiven for greater good.
 

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Sometimes even Abu Sufiyan and Hinda has to be forgiven for greater good.
Abu sufiyan and .hinda genuinely repented for their deeds and then converted to Islam... But here, its clear tht they just want to remain relevant , and want all cases to be finished against them so tht they can again lead a royal life.... Do u see any repentance in their behavior? Look at the arrogance.. We demand respect..shut all cases against us.... They should be forgiven ONLY if they openly admit tht they took help from India only for their material gains, had nothing to do with baloch rights as they falsely claimed... If bugti shoould be forgiven, then TTP should also have been forgiven.. Why dual standards? If cases against bugtis, can be closed, then maybe we should make peace with Fazlullah too.. Call him back to Pakistan?...but NO... Neither fazlullah should ever be forgiven for his henious crimes, and nor these bugtis and Marris...
And what abt those baloch, who remained loyal to Pakistan, all these years? Will they not feel let down? If we call back braham dagh bugti, harbyar marri, with RESPECT, as they demand, then those baloch leaders, who remained loyal and gained influence here, like Sarfaraz bugti, whose ppl suffered at these terrorists, wont they feel let down? If we set any this precedent, in future, every one will revolt for material gains, and when will like, will return to main stream and other ppl will question themselves ..should we remain loyal to state? Have we forgotten Agartala conspiracy case? Shaikh mujeeb ur Rehman was pardoned in tht case... And then, we know the end result.. We sure, dont want to repeat history.... I think we should focus on peace and development projects in balochistan, improve law and order and just make these separatists irrelevant. I think seeing the jazba in balochistan on 14 th august and defence day, these so called leaders had already become irrelevant to an extent, and now to stay relevant...they made statements tht we can return back.... We surely dont need another MQM in our politics, who would again and again blackmail Pakistan
 
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Bugti tribe has 8 sub tribes, Nawab Akbar Bugti and this dude (Brahamdagh)are from Raija Bugti subtribe..they commited atrocities and crimes and exiled Masuri and Kalpar Bugtis from Dera Bugti...after Nawab was killed..Mush brought back Masuris and Kalpars..now they are more strong in Dera Bugti, even if Brahamdagh returns, he won't be that powerful !!!
ultimately all these so called sardars want is power
power to subjugate the baluch people
 

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Its the Nature of War, If you KILL ENOUGH of them They will Eventually Stop Fighting.

Lt. Gen (R) Naseer Janjua Started an Aggressive Strategy of Stick in one hand and carrot in the other one. He Lead an Excellent Propaganda Campaign, did shows on 14th August and 6th September in Insurgency hit areas. He Kept Political Leadership of Baluchistan (CM Malik Baloch and Sarfraz Bugti) with him to wherever he went. Hit the Insurgents hard really hard, Utilized Intelligence effectively, used the Political influence of Baloch Leaders to Encourage Insurgents to lay down Arms so i think his strategy is now bearing Fruits. Peace will soon return to Baluchistan INN SHA ALLAH

Thank you Raheel Sharif Thank you Lt. Gen (R) Naseer Janjua and Thank you CM Baluchistan Malik Baloch.
 

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What Pakistan should do is development in Balochistan , provide basics to the common people , let them be part of the whole process and soon these guys will be irrelevant . Provide them education and health not these dirty sardars again
 

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xiled Baluch separatist leader Brahumdagh Bugti once feared being killed by hisfollowers if he ever struck a deal with Pakistan because of its harsh crackdown against those fighting for independence from Islamabad.

Bugti, however, is now seen as poised to return to Pakistan after engaging in secret negotiations with senior government officials.

This will mark the end of his nine-year exile following the killing of his grandfather, Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti, by Pakistani security forces in 2006.

Bugti is one of the Baluch separatist movement's most influential leaders. His possible reconciliation with Islamabad will be a major blow to the movement, which has combined militancy with political activism to seek independence for their resource-rich homeland in Pakistan's southwestern province of Balochistan.

"He has agreed to come [back to Pakistan]," said a source in the inner circles of the Balochistan government. "We have reached an agreement on 90 percent of the issues."

The source, a senior politician within Balochistan's ruling coalition, requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the secret talks between the government and exiled Baluch nationalist leaders.

He says Bugti indicated his willingness to return in a series of meeting with Balochistan's chief minister, Abdul Malik Baloch, in Switzerland this summer.

"There were two or three meetings [in July]. He [Bugti] has asked for respect and an end to all cases against him [as a pre-condition for his return]," the source said.

Baloch, the mild-mannered most senior elected official in Balochistan, has been pushing for negotiations with separatist Baluch leaders since assuming office following a coalition deal with other political parties in 2013.

His major aim was to bring back many influential Baluch leaders who fled to various European countries after the onset of the ongoing Baluch insurrection. The rebellion first erupted in 2000 after Pakistan's former military dictator Pervez Musharraf ordered a crackdown against supporters of the late Nawab Khair Bakhsh Marri.

The August 2006 killing of Nawab Akbar Bugti added fuel to the fire. Tribal volunteers and urban professionals joined forces in a militant struggle that spanned most Baluch-populated areas of the vast region that borders Iran and Afghanistan and is hemmed in by 1,000 kilometers of the Arabian Sea coast close to the Strait of Hormuz.

The Balochistan government source says Bugti's apparent change of heart was prompted by a realization that the 15-year-old Baluch rebellion is not going anywhere because of Pakistan's harsh crackdown and scarce international support.

"He asked [Malik] Baloch how long we can sacrifice our people," the source said of the conversations between the two leaders. "This is a good realization."

Bugti first fled to neighboring Afghanistan in 2006. Incessant attacks allegedly orchestrated by the Pakistani intelligence service forced him to seek asylum in Switzerland in 2010.

From his base in Zurich, he now leads the Baloch Republican Party, which claims to be engaged in a peaceful struggle for Balochistan's liberation from Pakistan. Islamabad, however, accuses him of leading the Baloch Republican Army.

This militant faction is one among several hard-line nationalists groups active in Balochistan. Thousands of civilians, soldiers, and militants have been killed during the past 15 years of unrest in Balochistan. Several hundred thousand Baluch civilians and migrants from Pakistan's eastern Punjab Province have been displaced by the conflict.

Baluch nationalists accuse Islamabad of using horrific tactics such as enforced disappearances and extrajudicial killings to crush their movement. In return, Pakistani authorities often accuse militants of playing into the hands of regional rivals India and Afghanistan and engaging in widespread sabotage by taking aim at both civilian and military targets.

The nationalist militants appear to be in disarray since Nawab Marri’s death last year. He commanded tremendous respect among their cadres and leaders, but his death left a vacuum and a succession struggle among his five sons. This year, several separatist factions engaged in armed clashes in Balochistan, and their leaders bickered incessantly on social media platforms.

"The narrative that violent struggle cannot win Baluch rights is starting to gain broader acceptance," the government source said. "The separatists not only fought against the state but eventually turned against each other."

A Switzerland-based spokesman for Bugti did not respond to repeated requests for comment. In an interview in August, however, he gave strong indications of a possible deal with Islamabad.

"We really want to resolve all our problems through political means," he told the BBC. "It will be foolish to say that I don't want to resolve problems through sitting [in negotiations]."

Bugti even talked about the need for confidence-building measures. "You cannot talk while there is a massacre going on," he said. "This is why I want the operation to end. All forces should withdraw -- then a conducive atmosphere can be created for the talks."

A source in Quetta, Balochistan's capital, however, warned of reading too much into the secret meetings between Bugti and Baloch. While requesting anonymity, he offered a different version of the negotiations in which Bugti is not sure about Baloch's power to strike a lasting deal.

"Bugti asked Malik, 'Are you powerful enough to engage in negotiations? Are you authorized by the central government and the military leaders to engage in meaningful negotiations?’" he said of the deliberations between the two leaders.

The source said Bugti has requested some confidence-building measures. These include an end to military operations against Baluch separatists, an end to enforced disappearances, and important administrative changes in his hometown, Dera Bugti.

The government source, however, would not confirm such demands. But he did say Bugti is likely to receive millions of dollars in royalties for gas extracted in the Dera Bugti district. The region has been the main supplier of natural gas to Pakistan since the 1950s.

The Bugtis are one of the largest Baluch tribes. As an appeasement strategy, Islamabad has offered royalties to tribal leaders and menial jobs to tribespeople. Nearly 200,000 Bugtis left their homeland after the 2006 killing of Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti. Sources in the region now say at least 50,000 have returned to Dera Bugti to reclaim their jobs with the government-run gas company.

The government source says Pakistan’s powerful military establishment will also rein in Sarfraz Bugti, Balochistan's interior minister who has emerged as a main rival to the exiled Bugti leader.

He claimed Bugti's return will be a major blow to the Baluch separatist faction after the reported death of Allah Nazar Baloch. In September, senior Balochistan officials said the physician-turned-separatist icon died in a military operation this summer. He has not been heard from since July.

Observers say Islamabad is pushing hard to quell the Baluch nationalist rebellion to pave the way for $46 billion in Chinese investments. In April, the two neighbors agreed to go ahead with the nearly 2,500-kilometer China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, which will connect Balochistan's Port of Gwadar to China's restive Western Xinjiang region.

A pompous ceremony in Gwadar on November 11 will see a large chunk of coastal land handed over to a Chinese company for more than four decades.

Brahumdagh Bugti expected to return home after secret talks
He had better watch out. Those who forget lessons of history are condemned to repeat them.

The ‘anti-state’ Sarmachars of Balochistan | Baaghi

> The second betrayal of this nature was seen when General Tikka Khan took an oath, again, on the Quran promising amnesty and security of life to Nawab Nauroz Khan, a respected leader among the Baloch who was fighting Balochistan’s independence movement from the mountains. In 1959, when he came down from the mountains, he was arrested and put in jail in violation of all the promises and oath on the Quran. Not only that, his sons along with other Baloch leaders were hanged in Hyderabad in 1960. The octogenarian Baloch leader died of shock three years later. With such audacious display of ‘keeping promises’, who would take Rehman Malik seriously?
 

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He is not coming with goodness of his heart. He is coming back because he lost miserably.
 

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you speak with such authority, may i know the source of your knowledge on the issue?
because you're implying that you know more than the govt and military.
There is a reason, he tried to gather people in Switzerland but was stopped by the Swiss govt plus not many people were listening to him. He has been inactive in recent years since Allah Nazar Baloch and his faction has increased insurgency. Allah Nazar Baloch and his faction despise the Elite Baloch like Brahumdagh Bugti and they don't take them as their representatives.
Coming back to point that Govt or military knows or not, its not about knowing it all about their interests.

Bugti's presence doesn't make a difference from an operational perspective, but it does make a difference in terms of public perceptions and will have a demoralizing impact on the remaining terrorist-separatist groups.
No it doesn't. The new wave of insurgency is spearheaded by middle class' youth which despise the elite balochs and they considered them to be part of the problem. Allah Nazar Baloch already said that Brahmdugh bugti is no representative.

There is no way to win a civil war only by killing and dumping. The strategy will have to be multi-pronged. Invest in Balochistan, give them education, jobs and eliminate the sense of alienation that is prevalent in Baloch Youth. Otherwise there is no end to this insurgency.
 

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You can't discount the policies and efforts initiated by Kayani either. Raheel isn't doing everything in a vacuum, he's building on the efforts of many other individuals before him (and Raheel himself was assigned a crucial role by Kayani).


Bugti's presence doesn't make a difference from an operational perspective, but it does make a difference in terms of public perceptions and will have a demoralizing impact on the remaining terrorist-separatist groups.
i do agree that the perception will count... but seriously we shouldnt take him seriously ..... things are changing and these guys want piece of the development.... ...
 

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