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200+ nukes delivered at 200 strategically identified sites will make sure India eats dirt for the next 1000 years or so.
Wrong!
a. Pakistan does not have 200 nukes.
b. Pakistan does not have enough launchers.
c. Pakistan nukes are not having enough yield.
d. Nuke explosions disperse fallout. Look at hiroshima and nagasaki.

Yes obviously China would love 400+ nukes exchange right at its borders.
Most of Chinese live near eastern coast of China, far from India, Pakistan and their drama.
75 is a decent estimate based off 2 x "Fewer than 50."
How come? And Ghauri is useless for retaliation. Its liquid fueled and takes too long to get it ready. Your reliable launcher is solid fueled Shaheen MRBM which you have less than 50. Assuming all survive first strike and are not taken out by Indian attacks.
 
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Wrong!
a. Pakistan does not have 200 nukes.
b. Pakistan does not have enough launchers.
c. Pakistan nukes are not having enough yield.
d. Nuke explosions disperse fallout. Look at hiroshima and nagasaki.


Most of Chinese live near eastern coast of China, far from India, Pakistan and their drama.

a. 165+ and growing. And nuke exchange is not happening next Wednesday.
b. Hats off to your information. Even state ministers here don't know how many launchers Pakistan have.
c. Yes 25-40kt yield is nothing considering Hiroshima was 15kt. And Pakistan's nuclear research is in standstill after 1998.
d. meaning more coverage and radiation pollution.
 

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Surely, India's top level government will survive.

In india, the administrative structure is totally worthless and thats the reason why most of the India works in a very ad-hoc and corrupt fashion. While in west, we go for formal judiciary, economy, employment, education, infrastructure, healthcare etc, in India, everything is adhoc. Their majority prefers intervention of elders and kangaroo courts than judiciary. Their majority can only afford quacks than real doctors. Their majority believes in mob policing than proper formal cops -- heck they have very few cops per 1000 people. Their economy is mostly informal and based on cash. Education is also highly privatized in the hands of private schools and government schools are disfunctional. Electricity is unreliable. They still use fuels like wood/cow-dung a LOT.

At worst, they will loose their transport infra and will have to resort to ancient ones -- like they did in their lockdown period.

Over a period of 1 year or so they will be able to get most of the rudimentry administration back.

India is a living chaos. Its pretty hard to kill a living chaos like India. Its pathetic but it survives anything you throw at it.

None of these things cause instant or even near term death. At worst it makes your life shorter. Instead of typical 60 years of life expectency, people in India will have to make do with 40 years for sometime. Actually, I am not sure even it will go down. Radiation looks a hell lot scary than it really is.

Secondly most of India is still very informal and adhoc in its living and infra. They do not depend upon modern and more centralized infra as much as say americans do. A week of failure of electric system will make USA cities buckle, while in India it will be another summer.

I honestly cannot decide if you are just stupid or massively ill-informed.
The unofficial or the rudimentary part of economy exists because the organised official structures exist, they would not be able to operate without those top tier structures, if you do not know, then please do some more reading.

Those top tiers of social, economic and administrative structures allow the rest of the country to operate, they are the country, without them even a small fever used to kill people, so many things that are no longer life threatening because those top tiers have helped create a better situation. The only difference is that those top tiers are more visible in developed countries, but less visible in developing countries like India, but without those top tiers, there would be nothing left. That's a fact.

Without those top and middle tiers of any nation, there would be no health care system, the people will die, not just from the effects of nuclear blast but hunger and thirst and the radiation poisoning in the eco system. Because those issues will need to be tackled, they won't go away on their own. A rural peasant cannot do that especially when there is no food, especially when they have someone dying from radiation poisoning to look after. Even if they have access to food, that food could be killing them slowly from radiation poisoning.

The other illnesses that have been eradicated will come back, they would start killing in the millions, the radiation aftereffects would have such an impact on agriculture and water supplies that you would have no food for years, perhaps longer, but even months is enough.
How long can you live without food? The world won't be coming to feed you, that'll have their own problems.


You haven't got a clue, so please stop acting like an annoying child, and go learn something before you get run over by a bus, a person this stupid shouldn't be on the streets.


Or, perhaps you'll are living in Canada so who gives a crap about what happens in India, right?
 

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The people launching nuclear weapons on each other on this thread are mostly with flags from outside this region.

Please spare us guys. We want to live.😂😂
They are just casually discussing how much dirt you'll be eating to survive, or what kind of sickness you'll have to live with, given that the initial impact itself doesn't kill you... 🤣
 

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Previous DGISPR Pakistan had once commented when asked about nuclear weapons by a journalist -
“You have asked me a question much bigger than my stature. Nuclear policies are neither discussed nor decided in press conferences”.
But, looking at this thread gives an impression that nuclear policies of both the countries would be decided within this thread and then executed by orders of few FMs.
Luckily the people who actually deal with these have their head where it should be.
 

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Previous DGISPR Pakistan had once commented when asked about nuclear weapons by a journalist -
“You have asked me a question much bigger than my stature. Nuclear policies are neither discussed nor decided in press conferences”.
But, looking at this thread gives an impression that nuclear policies of both the countries would be decided within this thread and then executed by orders of few FMs.
Luckily the people who actually deal with these have their head where it should be.

We are an emotional lot, probably, due to overuse of chilis, peppers, and "Garam Masaala". :p:
 

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I honestly cannot decide if you are just stupid or massively ill-informed.
Well, I cann't decide if you are stupid or pretend to be.

The unofficial or the rudimentary part of economy exists because the organised official structures exist, they would not be able to operate without those top tier structures, if you do not know, then please do some more reading.
No, it existed LONG before modern formal economy did. And if in nuclear war cities and economic centres are hit, it will exist past the failure of modern economic infra.

Those top tiers of social, economic and administrative structures allow the rest of the country to operate, they are the country, without them even a small fever used to kill people, so many things that are no longer life threatening because those top tiers have helped create a better situation. The only difference is that those top tiers are more visible in developed countries, but less visible in developing countries like India, but without those top tiers, there would be nothing left. That's a fact.
Wrong again. In India most of Indians do not actually have access to modern "infra" at all and make do with quacks. Sure, there will be a decrease in life expectancy, increase in infant mortality etc no doubt about it but then, India's population grew fastest in 60s or 70s when this modern infra was almost non exsistant past big cities. Nukes will push it back to that time as I said in my past post.
Or, perhaps you'll are living in Canada so who gives a crap about what happens in India, right?
India and Pakistan built the bombs, not anyone else. So obvious question is what will happen next. If they cared so much, they would not have built them in the first place.

And then, lets face it, How many times on this board people have said "nuclear" and most of them flying flag of Pakistan?
 
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They are just casually discussing how much dirt you'll be eating to survive, or what kind of sickness you'll have to live with, given that the initial impact itself doesn't kill you... 🤣
Just how many times nuclear threat is repeated in these boards? By flag-bearing Pakistani or Indians?
 

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Well, I cann't decide if you are stupid or pretend to be.


No, it existed LONG before modern formal economy did. And if in nuclear war cities and economic centres are hit, it will exist past the failure of modern economic infra.


Wrong again. In India most of Indians do not actually have access to modern "infra" at all and make do with quacks. Sure, there will be a decrease in life expectancy, increase in infant mortality etc no doubt about it but then, India's population grew fastest in 60s or 70s when this modern infra was almost non exsistant past big cities. Nukes will push it back to that time as I said in my past post.

India and Pakistan built the bombs, not anyone else. So obvious question is what will happen next. If they cared so much, they would not have built them in the first place.

And then, lets face it, How many times on this board people have said "nuclear" and most of them flying flag of Pakistan?

You need brains to be able to decide, clearly you do not have any because you are stupid. Any doubts I had have disappeared.

You keep ignoring the fact that after a nuclear war the eco system in India will not be the same, you idiot. The people will not go on as before because it will not be the same, what part of that are you finding difficult to comprehend.

And, are you so retarded that you are unable to formulate an argument, without splitting it into quotes, can you not follow a single chain of thought?

I am very well aware of what India is like, you fool, and have a decent idea about other developing countries. My bhabhi is Indian, most of my inner circle of friends are Indian, many of my ex-girlfriends have been Indian, and I have visited around 20 countries, besides the reading I enjoy.

So please go and learn a little, I suggest you start with ABC.
I've had enough of your stupidity, I shall not be replying any further.
Get help, you sorely need it.
 

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