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True. We agree on something at least. It's true that no dynasty , ruling regime or party can rule forever. In fact the CCP and VCP have done well ruling alone for over half a century actually . Not sure how many decades they will last. However , the issue here is that being a one party state where no other party is allowed to hold power or rule, this makes the country potentially volatile in the long run, since in case there's a political turmoil or nationwide uprising/protests that leads to the toppling or collapse of the party then there's a high chance of the country facing a turmoil as the state itself collapses. This is the case due to the fact that one party state or one man rule(dictators) often focus everything on themselves alone . The party or the person is above the state itself. In short, you can not hate the party and love the country. Since the party itself equates itself with the country. In fact the party even puts itself above the country. So you hating the party is the same as hating the country ( that's what the official line will claim anyway). So since the party has already equated itself with the state/country and made sure every institution, company, public organisations, educational institutions etc is part of the party or follows the party line , any collapse or fall of the party will lead to major instability/conflict as different players justle for power to fill the huge vaccum. That's the main issue with such system. We saw this when the Russian one party communist party collapse during the end of the Soviet union and the subsequent turmoil and instability the country went through/witnessed.
So hopefully as Vietnam develops to a certain extent/level the country will reform politically and open up democratically like S.Korea, Taiwan(KMT ) etc did when they developed and grew wealthy.
NB: when a man grows rich and wealthy , the next thing they usually desire/value more is liberty/freedom to criticize and express their views without any fear of repercussions/repression.
subsequent turmoil and instability in Russia didnt last too long, Putin, a member of communist party, took the power and keep Russia in stability and safe till now.

Btw, VN is quite different cos VN is quite small. VCP also know clearly that VN will not survive under US sanction if we cant unify sub Mekong region to become stronger . Thats why VN invaded Camb in 1979, attack Thai from 1979 to 1988 and only withdrawed when VN tank comander totally control Camb miilitary forces.

If we cant unify sub Mekong region,then VN will be split into half again. Thats why if CCP keep stopping VCP unifying sub Mekong region, then even VCP leaders like Le Duan will also wish for CN collapse again.
 
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subsequent turmoil and instability in Russia didnt last too long, Putin, a member of communist party, took the power and keep Russia in stability and safe till now.

Btw, VN is quite different cos VN is quite small. VCP also know clearly that VN will not survive under US sanction if we cant unify sub Mekong region to become stronger . Thats why VN invaded Camb in 1979, attack Thai from 1979 to 1988 and only withdrawed when VN tank comander totally control Camb miilitary forces.

If we cant unify sub Mekong region,then VN will be split into half again. Thats why if CCP keep stopping VCP unifying sub Mekong region, then even VCP leaders like Le Duan will also wish for CN collapse again.
I'm glad to see you acknowledge the wickedness and ingratitude of the Vietnamese, so that when the next Sino Vietnamese war begins, China will not hesitate to press the missile launcher 😎
 

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Personally I found Indians to be too pompous. It's very annoying. I haven't lived in Sri Lanka since I was a kid but based on my experience with FOB Sri Lankans, I Can say they are not nearly as pompous as Indians. And GODDD the way Indians speak be it Hindi or English is very annoying to hear. It sounds soooooooo whiny.

Vietnamese on the other hand have huge self esteem issues. I've never seen people putting down their own than Vietnamese. Women are HUGE white worshipers. I know a girl whose mum encourages pimps her out to white boys but then again she's crazy ugly that even the loser white boys don't like her.
bullcrap. imposing your own inferiority onto others.

just like all East Asians((chinese, koreans, japanese), the vietnamese are highly proud of their own sino-tibetan heritage. Mind u, they've even won a major war against Daddy Yankee

this is why even when exporting their women as brides for foreign men , they choose only other East Asian countries as their destination- there's even an entire thread on this buried deep in this subforum if u bother to search.


i repeat: dont impose your own sense of infeirority onto others
 
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Note: I am not saying that all Indians and Vietnamese are anti-China, I am only talking about the anti-China group.

Indians like to show that India is allied with the United States and Japan. In the hearts of Indians, if India maintain good diplomatic relations with big powers, India will become one of them and become a big power. Moreover, they think that if the India isolate China , China will fail.

Vietnamese are different from Indians. Vietnamese people like to post news about international companies investing in Vietnam. In the hearts of Vietnamese hinted that improving the country’s internal economic development and good governance is success.

The difference between the two: Indians emphasize external recognition and believe that maintaining good relations with the United States means that India is a successful country; Vietnamese emphasize internal governance, and they believe that their own country’s economic development represents Vietnam’s success.

Obviously, although the Vietnamese are very anti-China, they still have not got rid of the traditional Chinese way of thinking.
these vietnamese r special in the sense that while being anti-china, they think like the chinese.
 

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That's because despite all those self aggrandizing,the Indians senses that, they aren't taken seriously on their own . For Indians successful means serving at google,microsoft and Intel,at western firms and that too is reserved for the few .
For India to be successful means any form of acknowledgment by US -Anglo-Saxon and other first-world nations like japan.


The south Asian guy pretending to understand Vietnam is ridiculous,though he's right about the Indian part, not surprising.
Vietnamese are a pragmatic bunch,they do what serves their needs.All stats proves that Eastern culture is way more influential and popular among the vietnamese,US has extremely weak appeal and soft power on Vietnamese in comparison to East Asian Nations.Vietnamese looks up to Japan,korea and even china by far more than the west .White civilization aren't even close in soft power and appeal among the youth in Vietnam or whole of South East Asia.


Indians literally measure themselves from a white men's yard stick. The difference is Indians has an extremely fragile ego to accept it openly. Indians and black sjw communities are very similar actually. They can never do wrong,and everything about them is great.That's why both are a menace quite often.


You mean South Asian?? Then it would make sense. Otherwise, that's just your south asian mentality superimposing your perspective based on your culture.

The concept of white worshipping is real in mostly South Asian nations.


See the condition of Indian people during slavery in the British era - News  Crab | DailyHunt





Indian slaves n servants of the British.

'Bharatiyah civillization'???


HAHAHAHAHA im dying
 

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There's no difference I can discern. Both groups are extremely stupid and prone to delusion. Particularly the delusion that the failed states they've been cursed to come from have any capability to challenge China.
 

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Note: I am not saying that all Indians and Vietnamese are anti-China, I am only talking about the anti-China group.

Indians like to show that India is allied with the United States and Japan. In the hearts of Indians, if India maintain good diplomatic relations with big powers, India will become one of them and become a big power. Moreover, they think that if the India isolate China , China will fail.

Vietnamese are different from Indians. Vietnamese people like to post news about international companies investing in Vietnam. In the hearts of Vietnamese hinted that improving the country’s internal economic development and good governance is success.

The difference between the two: Indians emphasize external recognition and believe that maintaining good relations with the United States means that India is a successful country; Vietnamese emphasize internal governance, and they believe that their own country’s economic development represents Vietnam’s success.

Obviously, although the Vietnamese are very anti-China, they still have not got rid of the traditional Chinese way of thinking.
Genuine anti-China Indian sentiment on this forum is fairly new. Post Ladakh fu**up by PLA was the trigger. They barely cared about the Chinese posters monologuing about their greatness.

Sorry if you believed (probably continue to believe) Indians will put up with Chinese stupidity at the LAC.
 

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Sorry if you believed (probably continue to believe) Indians will put up with Chinese stupidity at the LAC.
Hey, Pajeet, why doesn't your failure of an army go do something about China in the border areas instead of you and your ilk designating the entire Internet? Or is open defecation on social media the only thing your country is capable of?

Oh, and there's no more LAC - China obliterated it
 

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Hey, Pajeet, why doesn't your failure of an army go do something about China in the border areas instead of you and your ilk designating the entire Internet? Or is open defecation on social media the only thing your country is capable of?

Oh, and there's no more LAC - China obliterated it
:disagree::disagree: What a bunch of pansies

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Vietnam will grow very fast and will also emerge from it's porvety state to a middle income country in future if things move in the right direction and no war, political turmoil or major disruptions happens. It also helps that the country has a strong albeit authoritarian repressive one party communist government that has embraced free market /capitalism and works towards attracting investments and making business easy in the country. Vietnam advantage also lies with it relative proximity to China's vast supply chain.
However as for wishing the collapse of China and defacto CCP, I'm not sure you should be wishing or hoping for that. I'm sure your communist party leaders also pray to never see that happen, since if the CCP collapses in China , Vietnam communist party won't last that long either. In fact funny enough, had the CCP not won the Chinese civil war, then the Vietnam communist party (VCP) won't even be in power today to be honest. Vietnam would have followed a totally different trajectory. The KMT hated anything communist and would have made sure the Vietcong never saw the light of day in Vietnam. Lol. So Vietnam would have been ruled by the western friendly south Vietnamese government and Vietnam would have avoided the bloody long wars it has to fight against the US , China and subsequent world isolation it suffered thereafter. In short, Vietnam would have been in a better shape today ironically.

So ironically, the VCP might have issues with China, but they definitely wish the CCP long life. 😅😁

"Lol. So Vietnam would have been ruled by the western friendly south Vietnamese government and Vietnam would have avoided the bloody long wars it has to fight against the US , China and subsequent world isolation it suffered thereafter. In short, Vietnam would have been in a better shape today ironically. "

Vietnam would have avoided the bloody long war with America, if Amreica was not a confident, impetuous and paranoid country. Nowadays America learned something and start to think twice when facing Iran and North Korea, it's good.
 

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Indians worship the Anglos. They view the Anglos as their gods. Indians are the only group that would happily be a master to the Anglos for eternity. This is why India will never be the main player but just a side piece to the dominant Anglo country at the time. They’ll never escape the mental prison of Anglo worshipping.
Indians have been accustomed to being ruled by someone else, whether it is the Anglos, the Turks, the Persians, etc. Even by their own ruling classes. They will suck up to and serve anyone who is powerful.
 

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Indians have been accustomed to being ruled by someone else, whether it is the Anglos, the Turks, the Persians, etc. Even by their own ruling classes. They will suck up to and serve anyone who is powerful.
CCP slave talking about freedom :what: Wow!
 

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Genuine anti-China Indian sentiment on this forum is fairly new. Post Ladakh fu**up by PLA was the trigger. They barely cared about the Chinese posters monologuing about their greatness.

Sorry if you believed (probably continue to believe) Indians will put up with Chinese stupidity at the LAC.
Another stupid and hypocritical Indian.
Haven’t Indians been anti-China for decades? Why did it appear recently? :omghaha: :omghaha: :omghaha:
 

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