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'Blue girl': Iran's football fan, denied stadium entry, dies

Discussion in 'Middle East & Africa' started by sammuel, Sep 11, 2019 at 11:49 AM.

  1. Alternatiiv

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    Western values are doing just fine. Saudi Arabia and Iran are outperforming though, right?

    Why don't you adk your Swedish friend here.
     
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    People blame saudi for being brutal to its citizens but reality is saudi takes care of their ppl and iran is the brutal oppressor of its ppl.
    Entering a stadium can get u 2 yrs jail? This is ridiculous by any standards. Iran is at boiling point. Its modern and liberal population are fedup with mullahs.
     
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    Saudi are doing pretty fine yeh, they're a rich nation.

    Can't say the same for Iran.

    The only reason why western societies are richer than you (since all you do is probably measure by GDP) is simply because they were better at war in the recent past and basically destroyed or conquered us. It isn't because they have some superior values.

    You think some kafir can think up better ways to live than Allah?
     
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  4. Alternatiiv

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    I keep suggesting to him. If he loves these ideals, laws so much. Why doesn't he go live in Saudi Arabia or Iran?

    Change starts from home after all. But of course he has no answer. His MS degrees are from west. His business is in the west. And his citizenship is in the west.

    The hypocrisy of this guy.

    Saudi Arabia is hell for women (paradise if they like the burqa, like not having the freedom to go out alone, and are okay with getting permission everytime they want to visit somewhere).

    I am no one to challenge God but God has given us brains to adapt with times. We aren't fighting with swords in the 21st century, are we?

    Germany and Japan lost the wars and were below Pakistan when it came to economic prosperity and GDP and HDI. Look where they're now.
     
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    Seen a survey on this before. Most saudi women were content with their life. You speak like you've been reading too many western newspapers.

    Adapt means to upgrade from a bow to a gun. Not change God's laws.
     
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    Dear repeating a lie over and over again won't turn it into the truth unfortunately
     
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    Another sad tragedy. This is caused by a problem created by Islamists where there should be none, May she rest in peace. And i also think the police officers should be trained on how to handle people with mental health issue.
     
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    They lost wars but they were technologically ahead. In the case of Japan and West Germany, the west helped rebuild them in order to counter communism.

    Japan and germany were also fighting a war to rule the world. They weren't nations who'd been colonised for 100+ years. Whilst our ancestors back in the 1940s were still basically ruled by the British. It isn't comparable.

    Read the article:

     
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    Why because I objected to sick person committing suicide.

    I think if any police guy mishandled then he or she should be punished. But still committing suicide is not justified.
     
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    The women in my life are happy, powerful and independant and I am grateful for the west for providing them with an enviornment where they can be the best possible version of themselves.

    I have an inferiority complex because I demand equality and respect for my women? Do you even understand what being a man is?

    hates women, doesnt care about enviornment, slightly a paedophile, promotes violence, promotes intolerance = yes you guessed it, a typical islamic mullah (not all but probably the majority).

    Islam should have left some room for flexibility because reform could have been easy in this situation to maintain influence, it really is rock and a hard place and immoral belief systems don't last long in this interconnected new world. This will not end well.
     
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    Because you love Iranian system and are against western
     
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    Don't be an idiot and if you have comprehension issues then first go and learn how to read and be honest. I just said that her committing suicide was a stupid thing to do and was totally unnecessary.
     
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    But you do believe in the khilafat system of Islam, do you not?
     
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    Why do some Muslims always take the wrong side on these debates?

    Its okay to take the moral stance, God is not going to hate you for it don't worry.
     
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    I can say the same for pretty much all the women in my family too, whether it's here or it's in pakistan. I don't know the women in your family so I won't comment on what they are and they aren't. But what I do know about ex-Muslims is that, the women in their families are normally still majority Muslim and if that is still the case here then I wonder why they aren't living miserable lives because according to someone like you, us Muslims just oppress women and we hate them lol.

    Oh man, you poor guy. Claiming the women to be yours? There's none of that "my women" stuff with your western values tut tut...

    Na man you're living a dream. I've seen ex-Muslims like you before. You guys use your imagination more than what is actually there. You lick up to the west and then hate everything about your former people. Seen plenty of this, you think you are superior or evolved or something else like that but you're nothing like that all. You don't know your environment, neither in the west or in the east.

    If you are muslim and don't agree with menace2society then you beat your wife... Nice logic.
     
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