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Biden administration reportedly backs Turkey’s $6B F-16 deal request
BY DAILY SABAH
ISTANBUL DEFENSE
OCT 12, 2021 1:54 PM GMT+3
Several F-16s of the Turkish Air Forces Command gather for the Anatolian Eagle military exercise, Konya, central Turkey, June 8, 2016. (Shutterstock Photo)
Several F-16s of the Turkish Air Forces Command gather for the Anatolian Eagle military exercise, Konya, central Turkey, June 8, 2016. (Shutterstock Photo)



Turkey’s request for Lockheed Martin-made F-16 fighter jets and modernization kits to upgrade its existing warplanes is valued at $6 billion (TL 54.02 billion), according to Turkish sources who spoke to two different media organizations Tuesday. Considering U.S. Congress' opposition to Ankara purchasing arms due to several lingering issues, it was thought that it would be difficult to win approval for the deal, however, reports have said that the new U.S. administration supports it.
Turkey on Sept. 30 sent a formal request to the U.S. to purchase 40 new F-16 Block 70 aircraft and nearly 80 kits to modernize its F-16 fighters, two officials familiar with the matter were cited as saying by Bloomberg.
The report said President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is expected to hold a meeting with U.S. President Joe Biden at the upcoming global G-20 summit. There has been no official announcement or meeting scheduled as of yet.
News of the F-16 purchase plans was also reported by the London-based Middle East Eye (MEE), which cited a Turkish official who said Turkey’s F-16s fleet, if not restored, “could put not only the security of Ankara’s but also NATO’s southern flank at risk.”
“The U.S. officials never told us that the modernization of F-16 was something out of reach,” the official said. “We believe Washington would be mindful of the Turkish and Greek balance as well,” referring to the Greek purchase of French Rafale warplanes.

The Biden administration had no issues with the request to update the F-16s, another official told the MEE.
“However, the U.S. Congress is another matter,” the official said.
Before expanding the F-16 fleet, Turkey was supposed to acquire fifth-generation F-35 stealth fighters from the U.S., however, Ankara was expelled from the program – in which Turkish companies also produce parts – over its purchase of Russian S-400 air defense systems. The Russian missile system was purchased after the U.S. refused to sell Patriot systems.
Presidential Spokesperson Ibrahim Kalın Monday told the Turkish daily Milliyet that if the current issues with the U.S. are resolved, Turkey can be included in the F-35 program again. However, Kalın also stated that if the problem is not resolved, the search for alternatives will continue.
Washington argues that the S-400 air missile systems acquired by Turkey could be used by Russia to covertly obtain classified details on the Lockheed Martin F-35 jets and are incompatible with NATO systems. Turkey, however, insists that the S-400 would not be integrated into NATO systems and would not pose a threat to the alliance.
Ankara has reiterated on various occasions that its removal from the jet program was illegal and unilateral. It has demanded a fair approach and has said that it is open to negotiations with Washington.
Ankara's purchase of the S-400s also triggered U.S. sanctions. In December 2020, Washington blacklisted Turkey's Presidency of Defense Industries (SSB), its chief, Ismail Demir, and three other employees.
Kalın described the decision as wrong and costly not only for Turkey but also the F-35 program.
“I hope they get back from this mistake as soon as possible, but if they don't, we have a paid budget of $1.4 billion for that project. This is our money, what are the alternatives to use it properly? If the F-35 issue is not going to be resolved in the near term, then it is only natural for us to look at alternatives. Turkey is not without alternatives in the field of the defense industry,” he said.
“For the money we paid, the expansion of our existing F-16 fleet and the modernization of our existing F-16s can be considered as an alternative,” he explained.
Besides the F-16 jets, Turkey has other domestic programs, including the TF-X National Combat Aircraft (MMU), a fifth-generation stealth fighter jet.
Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) is the main contractor of the TF-X MMU program while several other local defense companies contribute to its development.
The TF-X MMU is a fifth-generation jet with similar features to Lockheed Martin's F-35 Lightning II. The domestically-built aircraft will be unveiled for the first time on March 18, 2023.
 

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150 milion dollar for f 16?

not $150 million , but $100 million ( still more expensive than F-35A )

40 new F-16V for $4 billion
80 F-16 modernization to block70 standard $2 billion



F-16 Block70

-- APG-83 AESA radar ... ( The APG-83 provides F-16s with 5th Generation fighter radar capabilities )
-- New avionics architecture
-- New mission computer and electronic warfare suite
-- The new Center Pedestal Display (CPD) which provides critical tactical imagery to pilots on a high-resolution 6”x 8” screen
-- Automatic Ground Collision Avoidance System (Auto GCAS)
-- The Night Vision Imaging System
-- The Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System II
-- SNIPER Advanced Targeting Pod
-- IRST (Infrared Search and Track)
-- Conformal fuel tanks
-- Extended structural service life of 12,000 hours
-- General Electric F110-GE-132 Engine rated at 32,500 lbf (144 kN) of afterburning thrust

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İts a good political move by Turkey
We will see now USA is lying or not

USA says the S-400 can collect valuable electronic intelligence on the newest jet F-35 but F-16 has no this situation



USA did not sale PATRIOT to Turkey and Turkey bought S400 from Russia
and USA blocked transfer of F-35A Fighter Jets to Turkey

if USA again doesnt sell F-16V to Turkey
then USA will not have right to say anything about possible Fighter Jet sale from Russia for the Turkish Airforce

if no F-16V too , then Nobody can say anything to Turkey why to buy 2nd batch of S400s from Russia
 

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not $150 million , but $100 million ( still more expensive than F-35A )

40 new F-16V for $4 billion
80 F-16 modernization to block70 standard $2 billion



F-16 Block70

-- APG-83 AESA radar ... ( The APG-83 provides F-16s with 5th Generation fighter radar capabilities )
-- New avionics architecture
-- New mission computer and electronic warfare suite
-- The new Center Pedestal Display (CPD) which provides critical tactical imagery to pilots on a high-resolution 6”x 8” screen
-- Automatic Ground Collision Avoidance System (Auto GCAS)
-- The Night Vision Imaging System
-- The Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System II
-- SNIPER Advanced Targeting Pod
-- IRST (Infrared Search and Track)
-- Conformal fuel tanks
-- Extended structural service life of 12,000 hours
-- General Electric F110-GE-132 Engine rated at 32,500 lbf (144 kN) of afterburning thrust

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i see 6 bilion dollar in the article
 

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what do you need f 16 old fighter you will have stealth in year or 2

40 F-16V and 80 F-16 VIPER modernization is response to Greece ( 40 Rafale and 84 F-16 VIPER modernization )



MIUS unmanned Fighter Jet has only endurance of 5 hours and 1,5 tons of payload

stealth MIUS armed with 100 km GOKDOGAN a2a missiles can beat F-15,Rafale,MIG-29M2 and SU-35 in the region in BVR combat


but Turkish Forces are in Libya too
needs large scale operation capability

F-16 block70 , MIUS , Boeing E7T AEWC and KC-135 Tankers
and TCG ANADOLU light Aircraft Carrier to carry UCAVs maybe also HURJET advanced light attack Jet
 

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40 F-16V and 80 F-16 VIPER modernization is response to Greece ( 40 Rafale and 84 F-16 VIPER modernization )



MIUS unmanned Fighter Jet has only endurance of 5 hours and 1,5 tons of payload

stealth MIUS armed with 100 km GOKDOGAN a2a missiles can beat F-15,Rafale,MIG-29M2 and SU-35 in the region in BVR combat


but Turkish Forces are in Libya too
needs large scale operation capability

F-16 block70 , MIUS , Boeing E7T AEWC and KC-135 Tankers
and TCG ANADOLU light Aircraft Carrier to carry UCAVs maybe also HURJET advanced light attack Jet
i mean maned stealth fighter you develop
i think f 15 its better thatn f 16
 

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