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Barelvis created Pakistan, Shias liberated Iran and Deobandis conquered Afghanistan. What have the Indian Muslims achieved?
Wednesday 25 August 2021

It is said that the population of India's Muslims is larger than the entire population of Pakistan which is around 230 million.

While Pakistan has become a formidable nation in just 73-years after it's citizens chose an independent and sovereign state for themselves, India's Muslims on the other hand are simply known as second class citizens in their own country, India.

The only things Indian Muslims are known for today are things such as facing daily persecution, beaten up in the streets at the hands of Hindu Extremists, forcible conversion to Hindusm, loss of citizenship and threaten with forced migration to Muslim nations, forced to sing Indian unity songs, their history and culture trampled upon, living with fear, intimidation, abduction and violence, their women auctioned on social media and are told they exist in India only due to the mercy of the Hindu majority. These are just some of things associated with this minority group and there's nothing to be proud of.

The forefathers of today's Indian Muslims, numbered much less than the 230 million, yet they conquered Bar-e-Saghir for a thousand years pretty much unchallenged, but their offsprings today can not even walk outside their homes without the fear of being lynched just for being a Muslim. Some who manage to reach higher positions are forced to regularly chant anti-Pakistan slogans (and now also anti-Taliban) just to prove their loyalty to their Hindu rulers.

Why are the Indian Muslims living like this? Is it a choice or cowardice?

The Qur'an teaches us that a Muslim is an Ambassador of Allah in this world. He must have honour, self-respect, dignity and valour.

Before the conquest of Makkah, the early Muslims while performing their Hajj were instructed to do the tawaf with their heads bowed down in humility but stick out their chests so that the Kuffaar watching them do not presume they are weak.
 

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I would not compare the conditions of muslims in northern states (Punjab, kashmir, Haryana, Gujrat, Madhya Pradesh, etc...) to southern states (Kerala, Andra, Karnataka, and even bengal, et ...).

Muslims in the southern states of India are much better off socially, educationally, and face far less discrimination. Southern Indians (Dravidians) are our allies in the fight against Brahmin terror.

We must also foster relations with the communist and far left wing elements in Gangedesh, especially the Gange elite Intellectual class. They are sympathetic to Pakistan and have influence in many states/elite circles.

Everyone wants the head of the snake sitting in DELHI.
 

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PDF is definitely a font of knowledge, I am impressed.
  • M.A. Jinnah was not an Ismaili Shia nor Indian Muslim but a Brelvi.
  • Iqbal was not Ahmadi but a brelvi. There was no Ahmadi involvement.
  • no Christian lead the fight for GB liberation.
  • British did not leave rest of the the sub-continent voluntarily, it was the brelvis who drove them out.
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PDF is definitely a font of knowledge, I am impressed.

M.A. Jinnah was not an Ismaili Shia nor Indian Muslim but a Brelvi. There were no Ahmadi involvement. no Christian lead the fight for GB liberation. British did not leave rest of the the sub-continent voluntarily, it was the brelvis who drove them out.

one amazing forum, this! love it love it, love it!
Jinnah was born an Ismaili Shia, later converted to Twelver. Some sources say he actually became sunni but most people agree he became a mainstream twelver.

Alama Iqbal was also a Ahmedi. He later converted to Islam (Sunni). This is well known fact.


Lastly, one must not discount the contribution of the Aga Khan in Pakistans creation. He spent ALOT of his own personal $$$ to keep the state going in the first few years. Punjabi/KP Sunnis had very few leaders in the Muslim League, infact most of their leaders and moulvis supported the Congress.

Only the Sunnis of Bengal and UP voted for the Muslim League in doves.
 

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Barelvis created Pakistan, Shias liberated Iran and Deobandis conquered Afghanistan. What have the Indian Muslims achieved?
Wednesday 25 August 2021

It is said that the population of India's Muslims is larger than the entire population of Pakistan which is around 230 million.

While Pakistan has become a formidable nation in just 73-years after it's citizens chose an independent and sovereign state for themselves, India's Muslims on the other hand are simply known as second class citizens in their own country, India.

The only things Indian Muslims are known for today are things such as facing daily persecution, beaten up in the streets at the hands of Hindu Extremists, forcible conversion to Hindusm, loss of citizenship and threaten with forced migration to Muslim nations, forced to sing Indian unity songs, their history and culture trampled upon, living with fear, intimidation, abduction and violence, their women auctioned on social media and are told they exist in India only due to the mercy of the Hindu majority. These are just some of things associated with this minority group and there's nothing to be proud of.

The forefathers of today's Indian Muslims, numbered much less than the 230 million, yet they conquered Bar-e-Saghir for a thousand years pretty much unchallenged, but their offsprings today can not even walk outside their homes without the fear of being lynched just for being a Muslim. Some who manage to reach higher positions are forced to regularly chant anti-Pakistan slogans (and now also anti-Taliban) just to prove their loyalty to their Hindu rulers.

Why are the Indian Muslims living like this? Is it a choice or cowardice?

The Qur'an teaches us that a Muslim is an Ambassador of Allah in this world. He must have honour, self-respect, dignity and valour.

Before the conquest of Makkah, the early Muslims while performing their Hajj were instructed to do the tawaf with their heads bowed down in humility but stick out their chests so that the Kuffaar watching them do not presume they are weak.




They have achieved the serfdom of becoming indian hindu slaves and worshipping them.
 

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The Quran also teaches the stronger Muslims to come to the aid of the weaker Muslims.

Waiting for our Pakistani brethren to come and save us.

Why aren't they coming? Is it cowardice or have they forgotten the brotherhood of Islam and now comfortably sitting in their million dollar houses in Defense.

If this were the time of Khalid bin Waleed, no one would have dared to oppress us. Unfortunately we live in the time of Bajwa.
 

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What they were and who they were is in their hearts and mind, and with the one that created all. Let that be the extent of our introspection, and reflect upon what we give back now to ours and our land (Pakistan), for that is how we will be truly judged.
 

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I would not compare the conditions of muslims in northern states (Punjab, kashmir, Haryana, Gujrat, Madhya Pradesh, etc...) to southern states (Kerala, Andra, Karnataka, and even bengal, et ...).

Muslims in the southern states of India are much better off socially, educationally, and face far less discrimination. Southern Indians (Dravidians) are our allies in the fight against Brahmin terror.

We must also foster relations with the communist and far left wing elements in Gangedesh, especially the Gange elite Intellectual class. They are sympathetic to Pakistan and have influence in many states/elite circles.

Everyone wants the head of the snake sitting in DELHI.
No one's our ally, we just don't consider that we have beef with anyone (in our hearts) except for gangus
 

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The Quran also teaches the stronger Muslims to come to the aid of the weaker Muslims.

Waiting for our Pakistani brethren to come and save us.

Why aren't they coming? Is it cowardice or have they forgotten the brotherhood of Islam and now comfortably sitting in their million dollar houses in Defense.

If this were the time of Khalid bin Waleed, no one would have dared to oppress us. Unfortunately we live in the time of Bajwa.

India has 7 times larger military.
India has 10 times higher GDP.
India is 4 times bigger than Pakistan in land size.
India has 7 times more population than Pakistan.

Pakistan is not strong enough to bully India around to rescue Indian muslims, it is just senseless. Pakistan will indeed help against all odds and will come to the rescue if Indian muslims show some balls first and show signs of resistance. However i feel Sikhs will get liberated much sooner than Indian muslims, who will be slaves forever in Hindutva Land.
 
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