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but are the roles going to be different?

I think similar, our EMF (Essential Minimum Force) program dictate Navy to have 12 submarines. After we complete EMF program inshaAllah, then Military analyst in Indonesia has expected that Indonesia Defense Ministry in the future will launch another program EF ( Essential Force ) program which is making the military posture much bigger than current one, especially in the form of technology and quantity, which is of course should be related to our future economic capacity. If the economy growth is stagnant then unlikely to launce EF program, but if it grows quite high then most probably the EF program will be launched and it will likely be accompanied with bigger geopolitical ambition.
 
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Chinese Mings are really getting long in the tooth but they are better than old Indian Kilos any day...

Bangladesh Navy should stop twiddling their thumbs and get a couple of Song class types (S26T) with AIP like Thailand did ($430 Million each). Also - an LPD (type 071E type) by now has become almost "Farz" purchase right now. Thailand also got one of those from China.

If not Song class, we need at least any one of the following.
  • Scorpene (France),
  • Type 209 (Germany),
  • Project 636 Varshavyanka (Kilo-class, proposed by Russia)
  • DW-1400T (derived from German Type 209 and made by Daewoo South Korea and where Indonesian Navy is risk sharing partner), Brother @Indos may have more information on these and my Thanks in advance.

I wonder if this Chinese "gift" is gonna shake up things even more in regards to Bangladeshi purchases of Chinese weapons.

Regardless, Western subs have traditionally been much better than Russian and definitely Chinese subs.

Kilo (even 877) is better than these old Mings which remember are just Chinese copies of Romeos from the 60's.

Very interesting events.

Hopefully, BN pursues new build European AIP equipped boats soon.

It's nice to see good political relations between EU/UK and BD in regards to potential access to high quality equipment.

We can pretty much assume further purchases by Myanmar are coming of more modern either Russian or Chinese boats.

 
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I wonder if this Chinese "gift" is gonna shake up things even more in regards to Bangladeshi purchases of Chinese weapons.

We paid 200 million for Type 35G and they get the improved version free. :-) Well, the way everything is going on and the way our diplomats are talking, i won't be surprise if BN equips half of it's sub-surface fleet with Turkish/Korean submarine which is necessary anyway. Enough with US-China-Russia's game. If we find a better alternative than these three and others, we must take it. Those who give us trouble shouldn't get our contracts if we have alternative. Though the best solution is being self-dependent.
 
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Something that BD should consider

Wow this is great 👍.

how many anti ship missiles it can carry?
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Bangladesh should seriously think about it.
Indonesian defence industry is in its initial stages. Indonesia was working on MALE Ucav and project is still not completed. So by spending some extra dollars, Indonesia can even transfer the technology of these fast attack crafts and UCAVs .
Probably they were working on rockets also and they are still in initial stages ( @Indos plz confirm this) and it is a time for Bangladesh to cooperate with Indonesia in rocket ,UCAVs and FAC (M) sectors to build some solid base for defence industry.

Seriously, this chance should not be missed.
 

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Wasn't a demo model made that burned up sometime ago?

Bangladesh delegation did visit the factory (PT Lundin) I believe as they were interested.

This is new one, fresh from the factory just couple months ago. The one that was burned up is the first one, KRI Kelewang, different vessel. It has been burned up quite long, I think around 2014. They are doing research in term of material, so the new material can still use composite (Stealthy) while more resistance with heat and fire. The explanation on the video has said the new material has more resistance with fire, so not easily burned up like in the first vessel (KRI Klewang).

This vessel name is KRI Golok.

Golok is traditional Indonesian weapon, they are vary between region

Golok from Lampung province

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This is Golok look like in Java

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Wow this is great 👍.

how many anti ship missiles it can carry?
@Bilal9
Bangladesh should seriously think about it.
Indonesian defence industry is in its initial stages. Indonesia was working on MALE Ucav and project is still not completed. So by spending some extra dollars, Indonesia can even transfer the technology of these fast attack crafts and UCAVs .
Probably they were working on rockets also and they are still in initial stages ( @Indos plz confirm this) and it is a time for Bangladesh to cooperate with Indonesia in rocket ,UCAVs and FAC (M) sectors to build some solid base for defence industry.

Seriously, this chance should not be missed.

From the video it is said it can carry 8 Ashm missile and also SAM system. Yup we are currently working in rocket as well


 
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PM Hasina: Bangladesh Navy to get more sophisticated warships, war equipment (dhakatribune.com)


PM Hasina: Bangladesh Navy To Get More Sophisticated Warships, War Equipment
The premier firmly believes the naval officers would take advantage of this increased opportunity to lead the navy forward with more confidence


FILE PHOTO: Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina virtually addresses the closing ceremony of the World Peace Conference from Ganabhaban on Sunday; December 5, 2021 PID
By UNB
December 20, 2021 8:56 AM
Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina on Monday said the government has planned to induct more advanced warships and war equipment into the Bangladesh Navy as part of defence modernization.
“We’ve planned to induct ultramodern ships, war equipment and technology in the future aiming to increase the capability of Bangladesh Navy,” Hasina said.
She was addressing a function as the chief guest virtually joining it from her official residence Ganabhaban, marking the ‘President Parade’ of the passing out cadets of the Midshipman 2019 Alfa and Direct Entry Officer (DEO) 2021 Bravo.
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The Bangladesh Navy organized the function at the Bangladesh Naval Academy, Chittagong.
Hasina said the Navy has been turned into a truly full-fledged “three-dimensional” force through inducting two submarines -- ‘BNS Navajatra’ and ‘BNS Joyjatra’ in 2017.
She mentioned that now the navy is able to play a stronger role in ensuring the safety of the country’s vast maritime areas, which are rich with natural resources, as well as prevent human trafficking and smuggling, and ensure the security of fishermen and the safe passage of merchant ships.
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Besides, she said, work is underway to build a permanent submarine base -- “BNS Sheikh Hasina” -- with modern basin facilities at Pekua upazila at Cox's Bazar to provide safe jetty facilities to submarines and warships at the harbour.
The prime minister said the construction work of ‘Sher-e-Bangla Base’ has progressed a lot to enhance the operational and communication facilities of naval vessels in the coastal areas of southwestern Bangladesh.
She said the government has worked on various infrastructural developments, procurement of warships and strengthening the operational capacity of the existing ships.
After coming to power in 2009, she said, the government has started implementing the 'Forces Goal-2030' in light of the defence policy formulated by Father of the Nation Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman.
“In order to build the navy as a modern and regional strong force, the government is taking and implementing realistic plans such as various infrastructural developments, incorporation of warships to the navy and strengthening operational capacity of the existing ships.”
She said the government has already incorporated a significant number of modern warships, helicopters, maritime patrol aircraft (MPA) and submarines into the Bangladesh Navy with state-of-the-art combat equipment and technology.
In this connection, Hasina mentioned, a new MPA from Germany was commissioned to the Aviation Wing of Bangladesh Navy last November 2021. “Another will be inducted in May 2022.”
She also mentioned that the construction of a second hangar with all modern facilities for operation and maintenance of helicopters and MPA is going on.
The prime minister said Khulna Shipyard Limited, being managed by the Bangladesh Navy, has already attained the capacity to build Patrol Craft and Large Patrol Craft.
“A decision has been taken to build a modern warship at Chittagong Drydock Limited run by the Bangladesh Navy to transform the Navy as a ‘Builder Navy’ from a ‘Buyer Navy’,” she said.
Hasina mentioned that the government is also working to increase and streamline the organisational structure of the Bangladesh Navy to ensure the best use of these sophisticated technologies. The government has been working relentlessly for the economic and socioeconomic development of the country, she added.
Hasina said the Father of the Nation had a dream to establish a modern academy to develop competent leadership for the military through providing advanced training to the country’s young generation.
She said the ‘Bangabandhu Complex’ with modern facilities was inaugurated in 2018 and training facilities at the Naval Academy have elevated to international level with this.
PM Hasina said she firmly believed that the naval officers trained in the academy would take advantage of this increased opportunity to lead the navy forward with more confidence.
On behalf of the prime minister, Chief of Naval Staff Admiral M Shaheen Iqbal distributed prizes among the winners and spoke at the program.
The cadets also took formal oaths on the occasion.
Bangladesh Navy arranged a spectacular parade on the occasion. The prime minister witnessed it from Ganabhaban.
 

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Home boy done good. Proud of him. :-)

Don't know what "Able Rate" means...
PM Hasina: Bangladesh Navy to get more sophisticated warships, war equipment (dhakatribune.com)


PM Hasina: Bangladesh Navy To Get More Sophisticated Warships, War Equipment
The premier firmly believes the naval officers would take advantage of this increased opportunity to lead the navy forward with more confidence


FILE PHOTO: Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina virtually addresses the closing ceremony of the World Peace Conference from Ganabhaban on Sunday; December 5, 2021 PID
By UNB
December 20, 2021 8:56 AM
Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina on Monday said the government has planned to induct more advanced warships and war equipment into the Bangladesh Navy as part of defence modernization.
“We’ve planned to induct ultramodern ships, war equipment and technology in the future aiming to increase the capability of Bangladesh Navy,” Hasina said.
She was addressing a function as the chief guest virtually joining it from her official residence Ganabhaban, marking the ‘President Parade’ of the passing out cadets of the Midshipman 2019 Alfa and Direct Entry Officer (DEO) 2021 Bravo.
ADVERTISEMENT

The Bangladesh Navy organized the function at the Bangladesh Naval Academy, Chittagong.
Hasina said the Navy has been turned into a truly full-fledged “three-dimensional” force through inducting two submarines -- ‘BNS Navajatra’ and ‘BNS Joyjatra’ in 2017.
She mentioned that now the navy is able to play a stronger role in ensuring the safety of the country’s vast maritime areas, which are rich with natural resources, as well as prevent human trafficking and smuggling, and ensure the security of fishermen and the safe passage of merchant ships.
ADVERTISEMENT

Besides, she said, work is underway to build a permanent submarine base -- “BNS Sheikh Hasina” -- with modern basin facilities at Pekua upazila at Cox's Bazar to provide safe jetty facilities to submarines and warships at the harbour.
The prime minister said the construction work of ‘Sher-e-Bangla Base’ has progressed a lot to enhance the operational and communication facilities of naval vessels in the coastal areas of southwestern Bangladesh.
She said the government has worked on various infrastructural developments, procurement of warships and strengthening the operational capacity of the existing ships.
After coming to power in 2009, she said, the government has started implementing the 'Forces Goal-2030' in light of the defence policy formulated by Father of the Nation Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman.
“In order to build the navy as a modern and regional strong force, the government is taking and implementing realistic plans such as various infrastructural developments, incorporation of warships to the navy and strengthening operational capacity of the existing ships.”
She said the government has already incorporated a significant number of modern warships, helicopters, maritime patrol aircraft (MPA) and submarines into the Bangladesh Navy with state-of-the-art combat equipment and technology.
In this connection, Hasina mentioned, a new MPA from Germany was commissioned to the Aviation Wing of Bangladesh Navy last November 2021. “Another will be inducted in May 2022.”
She also mentioned that the construction of a second hangar with all modern facilities for operation and maintenance of helicopters and MPA is going on.
The prime minister said Khulna Shipyard Limited, being managed by the Bangladesh Navy, has already attained the capacity to build Patrol Craft and Large Patrol Craft.
“A decision has been taken to build a modern warship at Chittagong Drydock Limited run by the Bangladesh Navy to transform the Navy as a ‘Builder Navy’ from a ‘Buyer Navy’,” she said.
Hasina mentioned that the government is also working to increase and streamline the organisational structure of the Bangladesh Navy to ensure the best use of these sophisticated technologies. The government has been working relentlessly for the economic and socioeconomic development of the country, she added.
Hasina said the Father of the Nation had a dream to establish a modern academy to develop competent leadership for the military through providing advanced training to the country’s young generation.
She said the ‘Bangabandhu Complex’ with modern facilities was inaugurated in 2018 and training facilities at the Naval Academy have elevated to international level with this.
PM Hasina said she firmly believed that the naval officers trained in the academy would take advantage of this increased opportunity to lead the navy forward with more confidence.
On behalf of the prime minister, Chief of Naval Staff Admiral M Shaheen Iqbal distributed prizes among the winners and spoke at the program.
The cadets also took formal oaths on the occasion.
Bangladesh Navy arranged a spectacular parade on the occasion. The prime minister witnessed it from Ganabhaban.

I am not too confident about where Pekua base is - closer to Maheshkhali Island and in between Matarbari port and CXB airport is my best guess. I don't know what stage of completion it is in either.
 

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Guys this is good to look at for academic and theoretical purposes. American version of FREMM for littoral warfare use. Since Fincantieri is building these (and they also are possibly collaborating with BN on our frigate builds), this will be interesting to watch. But of course, ultimately our frigate program collaborators will turn out to be either China or more possibly, Turkey. I am however surprised that the ship will not have a stealth type integral mast.

An artist rendering of the U.S. Navy guided-missile frigate FFG(X). The new small surface combatant will have multi-mission capability to conduct air warfare, anti-submarine warfare, surface warfare, electronic warfare, and information operations. The design is based on the FREMM multipurpose frigate. A contract for ten ships was awarded to Marinette Marine Corporation, Wisconsin (USA), on 30 April 2020.

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The first hull in a new Navy ship class in more than a decade is set to start construction later this year, the service’s program manager said this week.

Fincantieri Marinette Marine plans to start fabrication of the future USS Constellation (FFG-62) in late summer or early fall following the completion of the final design review of the plans for the ship, Capt. Kevin Smith, who oversees the program for the Navy, said on Tuesday. The ship is estimated to be completed in Fiscal Year 2026.

“After we awarded the contract in April, we got going on functional design, the detailed design, with Fincantieri", Smith said.
“We had an initial delivery of the build specifications that were worked in during the conceptual design phase. Those are still being refined as we get ready for a critical design review later this fall.”

The Navy has stressed the multi-mission character of the new class rather than the modular mission package system of the Littoral Combat Ship. Estimated to displace about 7,300 tons fully loaded, the Connies will feature a derivative of the AN/SPY-6 radar being installed on the Flight III Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers, a 32-cell vertical launch system, Aegis Baseline 10 combat system and 16 anti-ship Naval Strike Missiles, with a crew of about 200.

The design of the new frigate is based on the FREMM multi-mission frigate in use with the French and Italian navies. Even with using the FREMM as a parent design, the Navy and designers Gibbs & Cox are making extensive revisions to accommodate not only American survivability standards, but also the margins the ship will need to accommodate new weapons and sensors over the life of the hull.

“Right now, the vast majority of the work going on for frigate is the detailed design. The engineers are sitting down and doing drawings,” Fincantieri Marinette Marine president and former U.S. Surface Force Pacific commander Rick Hunt told reporters in December.

In terms of margin, the hull should be able to add another 500 tons of weight and have excess cooling and electricity capacity for new equipment, Hunt said.




Smith acknowledged the room for the platform to grow over the life of the class.

“We have ample margin for this hull form. We also have in our requirements [the] space, weight, power and cooling margin to accommodate upgrades down the road over the service life of the ship,” he said.

“Some of those could lead to directed energy type projects and other capabilities.”


Fincantieri and the Navy are also working under a congressional mandate to ensure the components in the class, based on an Italian design, are all American.

“This is a U.S. warship that’s 96 percent American products right now in the design that we produce. We’ve touched almost every drawing from the parent design,” Hunt said.

“By the time we complete ship two, we’ll be at a hundred percent American.”

The Navy is estimating the first-in-class Constellation is set to cost about $1.28 billion — $795 million for the hull and the rest for government-furnished equipment, Smith said. The follow-on ships must have a price range of $800 to $950 million. Smith said that current cost estimates for the follow-on hulls to the first ship were around $781 million per ship — about $8.7 billion for the first ten ships.

In October, the Congressional Budget Office said the Navy might have underestimated the cost by up to 40 percent and the cost could be as high as $12.3 billion for the first ten frigates.

The start of fabrication comes as the yard in Wisconsin is in the midst of a $200 million capital expansion to accommodate the construction of the frigate program that will include a syncrolift, which will lower ships into the water more gently than the side-launch method Marinette Marine uses for the Freedom-class Littoral Combat Ships.

“We’re also putting together a new erection building — final assembly building — large enough to handle two frigates at a time,” Hunt said.
“That’s huge for being able to deliver and complete the ship for the right cost in the right timeframe.”

There is another thread going on about this,

 

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I agree on some stopgap used sub purchases while orders are given to build new ones.

But betting on "Myanmar Navy won't do anything cause they're busy keeping their status quo" is no comfort.

These idiots are unpredictable and could make a move on any Bangladesh territory next.

At the same time, we should look at mini and midget subs - which is a substantial component for the Pakistan Navy.

Great bang for the buck and we can built these locally with ToT (Italian tech).

Why hasn't Bangladesh Navy done anything for fifty years on this front? These are minimal cost platforms and can be launched even from 300 ton vessels. Pathetic.
 
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Great bang for the buck and we can built these locally with ToT (Italian tech).
type 212 will be good but not sure if Germany will allow us access to such tech. Apparently it can engage Maritime patrol aircraft with underwater SAM

also no French submarine pls
This isn't the Fault of IN , it was DCNS that leaked or got hacked
22,000 Pager Leaked Document Reveals All The Design Details Of The New Indian Scorpene Submarines (wonderfulengineering.com)
Scorpene submarine leak: Huge setback for India as 22,000 pages of secret data leaked | India News,The Indian Express


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this is very sensitive data that was leaked online, the Australian picked it up and redacted some bits (if youre an intelligence service, you can find the original doc somewhere :dirol:)

'' According to “The Australian”, the data includes 4457 pages on the submarine’s underwater sensors, 4209 pages on its above-water sensors, 4301 pages on its combat management system, 493 paes on its torpedo launch system and specifications, 6841 pages on the submarine’s communications system and 2138 pages on its navigation systems. ''

The DCNS employee may have had too much to drink that day
 

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