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Bangladesh joins hydrogen energy race

The Bangladeshi government has launched a pilot hydrogen production project as part of its effort to reduce the country’s dependency on fossil fuels and accelerate the transition to clean energy.

JANUARY 22, 2021 SYFUL ISLAM
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Bangladesh's capital city Dhaka.
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Bangladesh has joined the hydrogen energy race by setting up of a research centre and a pilot processing plant. The project is part of the government’s larger effort to diversify the country’s energy mix, which is still largely dependent on gas and coal.

Hydrogen is currently being produced at the pilot plant by using waste and biomass as feedstock. The use of water as a raw material will begin soon with the installation of another processing plant.

Following the installation of the pilot plant, the Bangladesh Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (BCSIR) has started training scientists to advance the effort towards setting up of a full-fledged Hydrogen Energy Laboratory as part of the project.

The BCSIR said it was working to start production of hydrogen as an alternative energy source in Bangladesh and taking into consideration the availability of abundant water resources in the country.

As renewable energy, hydrogen will help Bangladesh transition from costly gas and polluting coal to clean energy alongside renewables power. The expansion of the technology will accelerate the energy efficiency and the government’s target to generate 10% of the country's electricity from renewables, the BCSIR said in a Jan. 20 press release.

The project is aimed at research, quality control related to hydrogen production, storage, supply and infrastructure development as well as at providing services in the form of a national level reference center.

“We do not have our own fuel. We are totally import dependent for fuel. The hydro energy is a blessing for us,” Abdus Salam, project director and senior principal engineer at BCSIR, told pv magazine. “We have no dearth of water,” he said, adding that even the recycled waste water and sea water could be used for producing hydro energy.


As part of the ongoing project, a hydrogen fueling station will be set up alongside the procurement of a fuel cell vehicle that also runs on electricity, Salam added.

“Hydrogen fuel will boost energy security, energy reserves and the national economy,” he stressed. “Energy from fossils and renewable sources is stored in the form of hydrogen and later it can be used by converting it into fuel and different energy if required.”

The fuel value of hydrogen (142 kJ/g) is three times greater than traditional fuel and has no harmful effects on the environment, the BCSIR added.

About 33.33 kWh energy is generated from 1 kg of hydrogen fuel, but only 12 kWh/kg and 14.7 kWh/kg from petrol and compressed natural gas (CNG), respectively. Fuel cell cars run 100 to 131 km using 1 kg of hydrogen, whereas a traditional car runs 16 km using a kg of petrol.

Salam is hopeful that hydrogen fuel can be made available for industrial and vehicular use by 2030 to 2041.

 

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There is only one problem with Fuel Cell cars, the Hydrogen tank.

"Brust" hoi geley mushkil hoi jabey - hmmm.
Then lets use EV vehicles instead , much better and we can start to produce them in the future
 

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There is only one problem with Fuel Cell cars, the Hydrogen tank.

"Brust" hoi geley mushkil hoi jabey - hmmm.
Then lets use EV vehicles instead , much better and we can start to produce them in the future

It is okay if they want to research.

However, practically speaking, when it comes to powering personal vehicles EV is the future.
Electricity is distributed everywhere. You can easily get a charger hard wired at home.

I cannot speak for you guys but I have never used Hydrogen to power my laptop or cook dinner.
 

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Bangladesh joins hydrogen energy race

The Bangladeshi government has launched a pilot hydrogen production project as part of its effort to reduce the country’s dependency on fossil fuels and accelerate the transition to clean energy.

JANUARY 22, 2021 SYFUL ISLAM
Dhaka, Bangladesh

Bangladesh's capital city Dhaka.
Image: rahmatulla77/Pixabay

Bangladesh has joined the hydrogen energy race by setting up of a research centre and a pilot processing plant. The project is part of the government’s larger effort to diversify the country’s energy mix, which is still largely dependent on gas and coal.

Hydrogen is currently being produced at the pilot plant by using waste and biomass as feedstock. The use of water as a raw material will begin soon with the installation of another processing plant.

Following the installation of the pilot plant, the Bangladesh Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (BCSIR) has started training scientists to advance the effort towards setting up of a full-fledged Hydrogen Energy Laboratory as part of the project.

The BCSIR said it was working to start production of hydrogen as an alternative energy source in Bangladesh and taking into consideration the availability of abundant water resources in the country.

As renewable energy, hydrogen will help Bangladesh transition from costly gas and polluting coal to clean energy alongside renewables power. The expansion of the technology will accelerate the energy efficiency and the government’s target to generate 10% of the country's electricity from renewables, the BCSIR said in a Jan. 20 press release.

The project is aimed at research, quality control related to hydrogen production, storage, supply and infrastructure development as well as at providing services in the form of a national level reference center.

“We do not have our own fuel. We are totally import dependent for fuel. The hydro energy is a blessing for us,” Abdus Salam, project director and senior principal engineer at BCSIR, told pv magazine. “We have no dearth of water,” he said, adding that even the recycled waste water and sea water could be used for producing hydro energy.


As part of the ongoing project, a hydrogen fueling station will be set up alongside the procurement of a fuel cell vehicle that also runs on electricity, Salam added.

“Hydrogen fuel will boost energy security, energy reserves and the national economy,” he stressed. “Energy from fossils and renewable sources is stored in the form of hydrogen and later it can be used by converting it into fuel and different energy if required.”

The fuel value of hydrogen (142 kJ/g) is three times greater than traditional fuel and has no harmful effects on the environment, the BCSIR added.

About 33.33 kWh energy is generated from 1 kg of hydrogen fuel, but only 12 kWh/kg and 14.7 kWh/kg from petrol and compressed natural gas (CNG), respectively. Fuel cell cars run 100 to 131 km using 1 kg of hydrogen, whereas a traditional car runs 16 km using a kg of petrol.

Salam is hopeful that hydrogen fuel can be made available for industrial and vehicular use by 2030 to 2041.

great ,
keep it up bangla .
 

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Then lets use EV vehicles instead , much better and we can start to produce them in the future
EV vehicles made in Bangladesh? I wonder when BD car manufacturers have successfully graduated from mass-producing the simplest combustion engines that still run most of the vehicles of the world?

Ask the GoB to manufacture a few high strength bolts before indulging in hifi EV or hydrogen products. How about producing NEEDLES for the sewing machines that produce multi-million dollar products every year instead of wasting money on the most difficult things?
 

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EV vehicles made in Bangladesh? I wonder when BD car manufacturers have successfully graduated from mass-producing the simplest combustion engines that still run most of the vehicles of the world?

Ask the GoB to manufacture a few high strength bolts before indulging in hifi EV or hydrogen products. How about producing NEEDLES for the sewing machines that produce multi-million dollar products every year instead of wasting money on the most difficult things?
You don't need to build combustion engines first to be able to build EV.

The global combustion engine market is saturated on the supply side and will start to see decline within the next 10 years due to upcoming bans.
 

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It is okay if they want to research.

However, practically speaking, when it comes to powering personal vehicles EV is the future.
Electricity is distributed everywhere. You can easily get a charger hard wired at home.

I cannot speak for you guys but I have never used Hydrogen to power my laptop or cook dinner.
I have heard from Car nuts in my immediate friend circle that hybrid, then electric are just interim steps for now to eventually having fuel cell technology. All the big Japanese brands are working on fuel cell cars, some even have them for sale. I have seen the Toyota Mirai around LA since 2014. It is subsidized heavily by the California State Govt.





Mirai cutaway showing the power control unit and the electric traction motor in the front, the fuel cell stack and hydrogen storage tank in the middle, and the nickel–metal hydride rechargeable battery above in the rear.




The plus point is the emissions - simple drops of water.

So far, as I said, storing Hydrogen in a tank in the trunk at high pressure is the big issue.

In Bangladesh, where safety regimes are really lax, this could be the cause of many accidents.
 

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I have heard from Car nuts in my immediate friend circle that hybrid, then electric are just interim steps for now to eventually having fuel cell technology. All the big Japanese brands are working on fuel cell cars, some even have them for sale. I have seen the Toyota Mirai around LA since 2014. It is subsidized heavily by the California State Govt.





Mirai cutaway showing the power control unit and the electric traction motor in the front, the fuel cell stack and hydrogen storage tank in the middle, and the nickel–metal hydride rechargeable battery above in the rear.




The plus point is the emissions - simple drops of water.

So far, as I said, storing Hydrogen in a tank in the trunk at high pressure is the big issue.

In Bangladesh, where safety regimes are really lax, this could be the cause of many accidents.
It is just not worth the hassle to safely transport, store, fill, and dispose hydrogen fuel and associated materials.

Metered car chargers will become available in every street in the coming days. Battery technology will keep getting better. EV is the future for personal vehicles.

Hydrogen and other fuel cell tech will have their place but not as prominent.
 

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You don't need to build combustion engines first to be able to build EV.
Which economist gave you this brilliant idea? is it Dr. Hasina Bibi? Yes, you do not need to enter a kindergarten before working on a Ph.D thesis. It is possible only by the very brilliant BD people. The result is, this country is unable to produce even NEEDLES for the sewing machines that stitch many billion dollar worth of goods. How about building also train locomotives?

BD guys are fond of putting carts before the horses. What saturation you are talking about? Is BD saturated with home-made internal combustion engines? You are living in a fantasy world without understanding how economy works. No wonder, BD remains an LDC.

By your words, I assume you are proposing to export EV engines when BD imports even the nails from China. Good Luck, but know the limit of BD people who themselves are for export as non-skilled workers!!!

Please read more about hydrogen and EV engines.
 

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Which economist gave you this brilliant idea? is it Dr. Hasina Bibi? Yes, you do not need to enter a kindergarten before working on a Ph.D thesis. It is possible only by the very brilliant BD people. The result is, this country is unable to produce even NEEDLES for the sewing machines that stitch many billion dollar worth of goods. How about building also train locomotives?

BD guys are fond of putting carts before the horses. What saturation you are talking about? Is BD saturated with home-made internal combustion engines? You are living in a fantasy world without understanding how economy works. No wonder, BD remains an LDC.

By your words, I assume you are proposing to export EV engines when BD imports even the nails from China. Good Luck, but know the limit of BD people who themselves are for export as non-skilled workers!!!

Please read more about hydrogen and EV engines.
And yet again you are jumping to conclusions and going paranoid for no reason.

Combustion engine and EV are radically different technologies. Why on Earth would Bangladesh need to learn building combustion engines prior to making EVs?
Bangladesh never built steam engines either so should we start from there?

We never built telegram equipment so should we shut down all mobile phone manufacturing and assembly plants?

How many countries on Earth make sewing needles today? Do you think Bangladesh can beat the Chinese economies of scale in manufacturing very low margin products like sewing needles?

Are you really that dense to believe that I was referring to the Bangladeshi combustion engine market when I said the GLOBAL combustion engine market is saturated on the supply side?
Are we on the supply side??? :crazy:


Do you think Bangladesh can out compete China, Japan, Korea, India and other combustion engine manufacturing countries especially at a time when the technology is set for gradually phase out due to legislative changes globally?
What is the point of entering this industry now?
Who will buy Bangladeshi made engines? You think a 10,000 per annum car market can offer enough economies of scale?

Even an ancient manufacturer like GM struggles to make reliable combustion engines yet Mr. Sewing Needleman here wants us to build them ourselves.
 
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And yet again you are jumping to conclusions and going paranoid for no reason.

Combustion engine and EV are radically different technologies. Why on Earth would Bangladesh need to learn building combustion engines prior to making EVs?
Bangladesh never built steam engines either so should we start from there?

We never built telegram equipment so should we shut down all mobile phone manufacturing and assembly plants?

How many countries on earth make sewing needle today? Do you think Bangladesh can beat the Chinese economies of scale in manufacturing in very low margin products like sewing needles?

Are you really that dense to believe that I was referring the Bangladeshi combustion engine market when I said the GLOBAL combustion engine market is saturated on the supply side?
Are we on the supply side??? :crazy:


Do you think Bangladesh can out compete China, Japan, Korea, India and other combustion engine manufacturing countries especially at a time when the technology is set for gradually phase out due to legislative changes globally?
What is the point of entering this industry now?
Who will buy Bangladeshi made engines? You think a 10,000 per annum car market offer enough economies of scale?

Even an ancient manufacturer like GM struggles to make reliable combustion engines yet Mr. Sewing Needleman here wants us to build them ourselves.

I agree lol , Bangladesh better get right into the EV industry quick as Tesla is still leading in the game but still have some faults that can be fixed or improved.


Toyota is being ignorant and isn't rolling out a EV out cause the EV industry has many losses. But whenever Toyota will roll out an EV it will compete hard against Tesla for sure.

Tesla has the spotlight now but when everyone else will start to make EVs it will be different , Tesla's leading due to self driving tech and mileage.
 

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I agree lol , Bangladesh better get right into the EV industry quick as Tesla is still leading in the game but still have some faults that can be fixed or improved.


Toyota is being ignorant and isn't rolling out a EV out cause the EV industry has many losses. But whenever Toyota will roll out an EV it will compete hard against Tesla for sure.

Tesla has the spotlight now but when everyone else will start to make EVs it will be different , Tesla's leading due to self driving tech and mileage.
You are right.

There are not many commerical EV manufacturing countries just yet. If Bangladesh wants to build a sustainable local EV manufacturing industry, we need to get in NOW.
We should beg established players to set up plants here by offering all sorts of incentives.
 

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We never built telegram equipment so should we shut down all mobile phone manufacturing and assembly plants?
Where do you see mobile manufacturing plants in BD? It is all assembling plants. FDIs come for this because labor is cheap. Now, with such cheap labor why Bd cannot even produce NEEDLES? It is because its people lack knowledge in metallurgies. Needles do not use wrought iron, certainly. Japan was the sole manufacturer of sewing machines and needles.

Korean learned from them and now China has also become the master of this technology. But, not Golden Bangladesh. Its people have many excuses but love to become famous by talking big things like this which will remain outside of its scope for the next few centuries. Very cheap stunts only.
 

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Where do you see mobile manufacturing plants in BD? It is all assembling plants. FDIs come for this because labor is cheap. Now, with such cheap labor why Bd cannot even produce NEEDLES? It is because its people lack knowledge in metallurgies. Needles do not use wrought iron, certainly. Japan was the sole manufacturer of sewing machines and needles.

Korean learned from them and now China has also become the master of this technology. But, not Golden Bangladesh. Its people have many excuses but love to become famous by talking big things like this which will remain outside of its scope for the next few centuries. Very cheap stunts only.
Walton manufactures a number of mobile phone components locally.

Needle manufacturing is not labour intensive. Bangladeshi cheap labour cannot beat Chinese economies of scale:

 

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