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Bangladesh dissatisfied with China’s military supplies quality: Reports​

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Bangladesh dissatisfied with China's military supplies quality: Reports
North Industries Group Co (NORINCO). (Photo Credit - Reuters)


Dhaka [Bangladesh], August 13 (ANI): For a long time, China has been trying to emerge as the key defence exporter of the neighbouring countries of India. It uses the instrument of arms supply as “instrumentum regni” in Asia, that is, it tries to bind some countries with military dependence. However, the very low quality of the equipment produced, below Western standards, would seem to undermine this project, a media report said.

Recently, the Bangladesh Army expressed its displeasure with China North Industries Corporation (Norinco)’s supply of tank ammunition, rejecting it as not being tested. The country seems to be dissatisfied with the quality of military supplies received from China.

Owing to the economic situation of Bangladesh, Dhaka was forced to turn to the Chinese, who practised much more advantageous prices than Westerners. For this reason, the Army acquired light weapons, artillery and armoured vehicles produced (mostly copied) by Norinco, Bangladesh Live News reported citing a Roman news portal DIFESA Online.

The Dhaka government which is engaged in an upgrade program for the armoured component purchased defence equipment worth a total of USD 3 billion from China over the period 2011-2020.

In 2011, in fact, it purchased the Chinese MBT-2000 tank, built by Norinco starting from the Type 90-IIM tank, and is also updating 170 Type 59 tanks to the Type 59G standard. While more recently they have modified the Type 69 fleet to the standard Type 69IIG.

The Bangladesh Army, in an attempt to modernize artillery, replaced the Chinese-made pieces by acquiring 155/52 mm Serbian self-propelled rotor Nora B-52.

Beijing is also in the process of setting up a maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) centre and submarine base in Bangladesh.

The naval base, located near the village of Magnama in the province of Cox’s Bazar, will take on a strategic value of the highest value, as it will be located about 70 km from the border with Myanmar, in the Pekua Upazila area overlooking the Kutubdia canal. All this is probably linked to the purchase by the Dhaka Navy of two Chinese Ming class submarines (Type 035G), the news portal reported.

More recently, China Precision Machinery Import Export Company (CPMIEC) also supplied Bangladesh with some equipment related to the HQ-7 short-range surface-to-air missiles, the news portal reported.

Several problems, however, have been reported with respect to transport vehicles and missiles, including the engine, communication system and infrared guidance device, Bangladesh Live News reported.

The Bangladeshi Navy also said it was dissatisfied with the radars provided by China Shipbuilding and Offshore International.

Earlier, a RAND Corporation (US-based thinktank) study in 2021 clearly pointed to a lacuna in Chinese defence contracts, stating there is a lack of transparency and accountability.

China’s arms sales operate primarily through state-run export organisations such as the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) and North Industries Corporation (NORINCO).

Arms transfers also are a component of China’s foreign policy, used in conjunction with other types of assistance to complement foreign policy initiatives undertaken as part of China’s One Belt, One Road initiative.

According to the experts, a lot of countries have little or no faith in Chinese companies because of poor after-sales support and equipment that rapidly declines into non-functional machinery.

China also does not have the required ability to manufacture highly sophisticated parts as it is still not considered a first-rate developer and producer of state-of-the-art military material, reported the Russian Council.

Although some potential customers consider arms made by Beijing to be of lower quality and reliability, many developing countries buy China’s weaponry because they are less expensive than other comparable systems.

Bejing’s assertive policy in terms of arms sales and presence around the world should raise some cautionary eyebrows. China is not only increasing its arms sales, but also military training and investment in its lender countries.

Other than Bangladesh; Pakistan, Thailand, and Africa are China’s clients for arms and ammunition. China has also sold 36 J-10C fighters to Pakistan and delivered HQ-22 (FK-3) surface-to-air missiles (SAM) to Serbia.

Countries like Tanzania, Nigeria, Sudan, Cameroon, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Gabon, Algeria, Namibia, Ghana and Ethiopia are among the top importers of Chinese arms.

According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI)’s recent report, nearly half of Chinese weapon exports – 47 per cent, in fact – went to its closest ally Pakistan, while Beijing’s next largest clients were Bangladesh and Thailand at 16 pc and 5 pc respectively, as per the media portal.

Given the relative strength of China’s position on the arms export table, it is perhaps surprising that China also appeared fifth on the international list of arms importers, behind India, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Australia.


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IL BANGLADESH E GLI EQUIPAGGIAMENTI MILITARI CINESI​

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(di Tiziano Ciocchetti)
11/08/22

Il Bangladesh sembrerebbe non soddisfatto della qualità delle forniture militari ricevute da Pechino.

La Cina utilizza lo strumento della fornitura di armamenti come instrumentum regni in Asia, ovvero cerca di vincolare alcuni paesi con dipendenza militare. Tuttavia, proprio la bassa qualità degli equipaggiamenti prodotti, inferiori agli standard occidentali, sembrerebbe minare tale progetto.

Ne è un esempio il Bangladesh, le cui Forze Armate, vengono rifornite con equipaggiamenti costruiti in Cina.

Dopo una guerra con il Pakistan, nel 1971, il Bangladesh ottenne l’indipendenza. Per mantenerla necessitava di potenziare il proprio strumento militare. Vista la situazione economica tutt’altro che florida, Dhaka fu costretta a rivolgersi ai cinesi, i quali praticavano prezzi assai più vantaggiosi rispetto agli occidentali. Per questo motivo l’Esercito acquisì armi leggere, artiglieria e mezzi corazzati prodotti (più che altro copiati) dalla Norinco.

Attualmente, il governo di Dhaka è impegnato in un programma di aggiornamento della componente corazzata. Nel 2011, infatti, ha acquisto il carro cinese MBT-2000, costruito dalla Norinco partendo da carro Type 90-IIM, inoltre sta aggiornando 170 carri Type 59 allo standard Type 59G. Mentre più recentemente hanno modificato la flotta di Type 69 allo standard Type 69IIG.

Per modernizzare l’artiglieria, sostituendo i pezzi di fabbricazione cinese, l’Esercito ha acquisito il semovente ruotato serbo da 155/52 mm Nora B-52.

La Cina ha fornito al Bangladesh equipaggiamenti per la Difesa per un valore complessivo di 3 miliardi di dollari nel periodo 2011-2020. Pechino è anche in procinto di creare un centro di manutenzione, riparazione e revisione (MRO) e una base sottomarina in Bangladesh. La base navale, situata nelle vicinanze del villaggio di Magnama nella provincia di Cox’s Bazar, assumerà una valenza strategica di altissimo valore, in quanto si troverà a circa 70 km dal confine con il Myanmar, nell’area di Pekua Upazila prospiciente il canale Kutubdia. Tutto ciò è probabilmente legato all’acquisto, da parte della Marina di Dhaka, di due sottomarini cinesi classe Ming (Type 035G).

Di recente, l'Esercito del Bangladesh ha espresso il proprio disappunto per la fornitura di munizioni per carri armati da parte della Norinco rifiutandole in quanto non sottoposte a test di collaudo.

La China Precision Machinery Import Export Company (CPMIEC), aveva inoltre fornito al Bangladesh alcune attrezzature relative ai missili superficie-aria HQ-7 a corto raggio.

Tuttavia sono stati segnalati diversi problemi per quanto concerne i veicoli da trasporto e i missili, tra cui il motore, il sistema di comunicazione e il dispositivo di guida a infrarossi.

Anche la Marina del Bangladesh si è detta insoddisfatta dei radar forniti dalla China Shipbuilding & Offshore International.

Il rallentamento dell'economia cinese, con conseguente abbassamento della crescita negli ultimi due anni (il FMI ha fissato la crescita della Cina al 3,3% nel 2022, il risultato più basso degli ultimi 40 anni) indicano che l’apparato industriale di Pechino non è in buone condizioni.

Ciò evidentemente influisce anche sulla qualità (comunque mai stata elevata) della produzione di equipaggiamenti militari​

BANGLADESH AND CHINESE MILITARY EQUIPMENT​

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(by Tiziano Ciocchetti )
11/08/22

Bangladesh appears to be dissatisfied with the quality of military supplies received from Beijing.

China uses the instrument of arms supply as instrumentum regni in Asia, that is, it tries to bind some countries with military dependence. However, the very low quality of the equipment produced, below Western standards, would seem to undermine this project.

An example is Bangladesh, whose Armed Forces are supplied with equipment built in China.

After a war with Pakistan in 1971, Bangladesh gained independence. To keep it he needed to upgrade his military tool. Given the economic situation that was anything but prosperous, Dhaka was forced to turn to the Chinese, who practiced much more advantageous prices than Westerners. For this reason the Army acquired light weapons, artillery and armored vehicles produced (mostly copied) by Norinco.

Currently, the Dhaka government is engaged in an upgrade program for the armored component. In 2011, in fact, it purchased the Chinese MBT-2000 tank, built by Norinco starting from the Type 90-IIM tank, and is also updating 170 Type 59 tanks to the Type 59G standard. While more recently they have modified the Type 69 fleet to the standard Type 69IIG.

To modernize the artillery, replacing the Chinese-made pieces, the Army acquired the 155/52 mm Serbian self-propelled rotor Nora B-52.

China provided Bangladesh with defense equipment worth a total of $ 3 billion over the period 2011-2020. Beijing is also in the process of setting up a maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) center and submarine base in Bangladesh. The naval base, located near the village of Magnama in the province of Cox's Bazar, will take on a strategic value of the highest value, as it will be located about 70 km from the border with Myanmar, in the Pekua Upazila area overlooking the Kutubdia canal. All this is probably linked to the purchase by the Dhaka Navy of two Chinese Ming class submarines (Type 035G).

Recently, the Bangladesh Army expressed its displeasure with Norinco's supply of tank ammunition, rejecting it as not being tested.

China Precision Machinery Import Export Company (CPMIEC) also supplied Bangladesh with some equipment related to the HQ-7 short-range surface-to-air missiles.

However, several problems have been reported with respect to transport vehicles and missiles, including the engine, communication system and infrared guidance device.

The Bangladeshi Navy also said it was dissatisfied with the radars provided by China Shipbuilding & Offshore International.

The slowdown of the Chinese economy, with consequent lowering of growth in the last two years (the IMF set China's growth at 3.3% in 2022, the lowest result in the last 40 years) indicate that the industrial apparatus of Beijing it is not in good condition.

This evidently also affects the quality (however never been high) of the production of military equipment.​
 
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Written by ANI, another Indian FAKE NEWS propaganda piece.

Indians and their garbage news outlets continue to churn out anti-Chinese false reports. Knowing China one of the key for BD economic rise.
 

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It’s based on DIFESA. Don’t just quote India and anti China everywhere.

This is not first time you post shoddy articles from Indian fake news outlets. Last time also there was this peculiar italian guy who pulled out news from his own rearside.

What would a italian nobody know about BD Army inner assesments? Either this italian dude is a asset who works on behalf of you all know whom. Or his name is a pseudonym for another Indian p@jeet propagandist.
 
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This is not first time you post shoddy articles from Indian fake news outlets. Last time also there was this peculiar italian guy who pulled out news from his own rearside.

What would a italian nobody know about BD Army inner assesments? Either this italian dude is a asset who works on behalf of you all know whom. Or his name is a pseudonym for another Indian p@jeet propagandist.

Talk objectively on the topic. Instead of bringing conspiracy theory everywhere. Original article was written in Italian.

This is the guy in case he looks like Indian pajeets to you

 

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Talk objectively on the topic. Instead of bringing conspiracy theory everywhere. Original article was written in Italian.

This is the guy in case he looks like Indian pajeets to you

Can't discuss because I searched GOOGLe, and couldn't find any official news reports of Bangladesh Army's refusal to accept ammunition dissatisfaction, and there is no source in the Italian article. There is no point in discussing when there is uncertainty about the event.
 

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Can't discuss because I searched GOOGLe, and couldn't find any official news reports of Bangladesh Army's refusal to accept ammunition dissatisfaction, and there is no source in the Italian article. There is no point in discussing when there is uncertainty about the event.
Bangladesh army don’t publish such news. In most cases these are insider sources which is used.
 

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Bangladesh army don’t publish such news. In most cases these are insider sources which is used.
So, did the Italian author of this report ever have an accurate first report on the Bangladeshi army? ? If not, it's unclear whether he actually had inside information, or if it was just fabricated.
 

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Can't discuss because I searched GOOGLe, and couldn't find any official news reports of Bangladesh Army's refusal to accept ammunition dissatisfaction, and there is no source in the Italian article. There is no point in discussing when there is uncertainty about the event.

Source of the Italian report AND the "The Print" article is the same syndicated article from ANI. I believe ANI being part of Modi's propaganda machine, publishes these legit-looking pieces every few months bad-mouthing Chinese this or that.


That is only what Modi's propaganda is limited to - dissing Chinese defense products, as if overpriced Indian defense products were such higher quality compared to Chinese, even if they had them on offer.

I am sure the Pakistani defense establishment and Bangladeshi ones are having sleepless nights over sub-par Chinese quality arms. :lol:
 

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