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Bangladesh can benefit from US as a strategic partner

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  1. The Ronin

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    That's alot of kit.

    What is this?
     
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    This is a list of what BD can buy from US to full-fill it's FG-2030.
     
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    F-16, F/A 18, Chinook, AH-1Z/64E, MQ9, E7...

    Dayum... the list is sexy :enjoy:
     
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    I have a feeling this may be what the US is proposing to BD to meet it's "Forces Goal 2030" requirement.

    While it is a lot of kit, we need to bear in mind that it only includes a total of 44 F-16/F-18 fighter aircraft. The only other really expensive items on the list are the 24 AH-64 and the 3 C-17 3. This is very much affordable for BD up to 2030.

    It looks like to me that the US wants to displace China to the be the no 1 arms supplier to BD.
     
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    From about a year ago.

    https://mofa.gov.bd/site/press_release/261a3c12-2251-4e58-b715-43342662b2fb

    The visiting Foreign Secretary of Bangladesh Md. Shahidul Haque met with House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Congressman Eliot Engelat the Hill on 24 January 2019
    The visiting Foreign Secretary of Bangladesh Md. Shahidul Haque met with House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Congressman Eliot Engelat the Hill on 24 January 2019. At the meeting, Congressman Engel referred to the ongoing Rohingya Crisis and appreciated the government of Bangladesh for hosting the persecuted Rohingyas. Congressman Engelexpressed his hope to visit Bangladesh soon and see the Rohingya camps and hold talks with various stakeholders. Foreign Secretary Haque thanked Congressman Engelfor his initiatives in the House Foreign Affairs Committee to adopt resolutions condemning the atrocities on the Rohingyas and putting greater pressure on Myanmar so that the latter stops persecution on the Rohingya people.



    Later the Bangladesh Foreign Secretary exchanged views with a group of staffers from both House Foreign Affairs Committee and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. The Foreign Secretary briefed the staffers on various aspects of Bangladesh Foreign Relations, the ongoing Rohingya crisis and Bangladesh’s trade and investment opportunities in US and other countries. Foreign Secretary also met with Jennifer Wethey, Acting Deputy Assistant to the President and Zeba Rayazuddin, Acting Assistant US Trade Representative.



    Earlier in the day, the Foreign Secretary addressed a group of scholars at the Heritage Foundation. Foreign Secretary shared his ideas on evolving orders in Asia.



    Yesterday (23 January 2019) Mr. Haque met with senior executives of National Cotton Council (NCC). Foreign Secretary Haque held a meeting with Assistant Secretary, Asia-Pacific, Department of Defense, Mr. Randall Schriver. Various issues relating to US-Bangladesh defense cooperation came up at the meeting. Bangladesh Ambassador to USA Mr. Mohammad Zia uddin and senior officials of Foreign Ministry and Bangladesh Embassy in Washington D.C. accompanied the Foreign Secretary during the meetings.

    2019-01-25
     
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    So the interesting thing is that it is a bit weak on the naval side compared to Chinese naval assets. The OHP class frigates are rather long in the tooth (as is the Hamilton class) and maybe Bangladesh can possibly do better by adopting equivalent Damen designs. @Bilal Khan (Quwa) bhai your take on this please (since I believe Pakistan used to have (or still has) the OHP class?

    The rest of it (Airforce and Army stuff) is definitely better than what we have currently.
     
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    No offence but this require a LOT of money.
     
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    BD has the money.

    4.5 US billion dollar defence budget growing at 8% a year in real terms.
     
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    Agreed.

    That's ALOT of equipment.
     
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    4.5 billion USD is similar like Morocco defense budget and if you look on what kind of equipment they can buy you will be surprise. The latest one is 44 Apache helicopter.
     
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    Difference is that the defence budget is growing at the rate of the economy - 8% a year. In today's money, BD defence budget will hit 10 US billion dollar by 2030.
    No offence but people with little mathematical ability are commenting in an area they have no expertise in.
    That list is very affordable for BD.
     
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    Quite realistic, Indonesia has 1 trillion GDP and starting from next year we will have 9 US billion dollar defense budget. Bangladesh is projected to have 700 billion dollar economy in 2030 and I think it can afford 10 billion dollar defense budget.
     
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    Not directly about Bangladesh but illustrates the fallacy that Non-US automatically means cheaper!

    https://defence-blog.com/news/russian-su-30-fighter-jets-criticized-by-belarus-they-want-f-16.html

    Russia has started implementing a contract on the delivery of a batch of its newest Su-30SM multirole fighter jets to Belarus, but some analysts raised concerns about costs over the entire life cycle of the aircraft, from fabrication to maintenance.

    The publication Lenta.ru reported Friday that a wide range of renowned experts has expressed their concerns regarding Belarus selected Russian-made combat aircraft to replace ageing Soviet-era MiG-29 fleet.

    Andrey Porotnikov, BelarusSecurityBlog’s project leader, said that operating and support costs of Russian aircraft are more expensive than U.S.-made F-16 fighter aircraft.

    Usually, the combat aircraft life-cycle cost for an estimated life of 35 years is 2-2.5 times its purchase price, as a result of which the total cost of maintenance of each Belarus’s Su-30SM will cost $100-125 million.

    “And now, to sum up, the price of aircraft [about $ 50 million], the maintain of airworthiness and modernization. We get the amount from 185 to 210 million dollars for each (!) aircraft in the next 35 years. And the squadron [12 aircraft], respectively, from 2.22 billion to 2.52 billion dollars. The amount is not small, ”- Andrey Porotnikov stated.

    Another disadvantage of the fighter manufactured in Russia is its AL-31FP engines, which six units “eat” during the Su-30SM life cycle (two of them are already installed and paid for at the time of purchase). This circumstance in the publication is explained by the fact that “Soviet (Russian) aircraft engines are traditionally inferior to Western ones not only in fuel efficiency but also in between-repairs and operating life cycles.”

    “The Polish Air Force simultaneously operates the Soviet twin-engine fighter MiG-29 and the American single-engine F-16. It is assumed that the American fighter will fly off all 35 years with the same engine that was originally installed on it. Unfortunately, this does not work out with the MiG-29: eight engines will have to be replaced in the same period, ” explained analyst.

    According to TASS, the Su-30SM is a generation 4++ serial-produced and upgraded two-seat super-maneuverable fighter jet. The Su-30SM is furnished with two AL-31FP thrust-vectoring reheated double-flow turbofan engines. The fighter has an operating range of 1,500 km and flight endurance of 3.5 hours without refueling.
     
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    I saw that article already.

    Russia weapons are for those who cannot buy from the West for political or economic reasons(initial capital to procure planes).

    A Chinese J-10C would kill any Russian plane, maybe even PAK-FA when supported by AWACs. China surpassed Russia in electronics years ago and the gap is getting larger every year.
     
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