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Don't waste your energy with that fool , he just can't take the idea of Bangladesh being important cause in his world his own people are the most important not anyone else and he can't bear the idea that inferior Bengalis are important.
Our country is more important than Pakistan in regional politics. Our very location is the reason that India cannot really amass its troops in huge numbers in its NE in a short period to fight the Chinese.

However, the Indian Army can go to Ladakh without even Pakistan knowing it.

So, BD is important in regional affairs, and America knows it.
Keep on dreaming about it, there is nothing wrong in living fools heaven.
Will like to see BAF operating F-16 block-70/72s, C130-Js, AH-1Zs, TPS series radars, PAC-2/3 SAMs, P-8s, AWACS, etc.
 

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Who would have thought such a thing only a few years ago.
Nobody would have thought BAF would come this close to getting western fighters.
Options are a wonderful thing.
Indeed, its good to have access to almost everything including engines and be on good terms with both global powers. Let's hope that we have the ability to pay for them.
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Keep on dreaming about it, there is nothing wrong in living fools heaven.
Will like to see BAF operating F-16 block-70/72s, C130-Js, AH-1Zs, TPS series radars, PAC-2/3 SAMs, P-8s, AWACS, etc.
I personally do not care if BAF gets any F-16 or not. However, I will say that BD's geographical location is very important for India and China.
 

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Don't waste your energy with that fool , he just can't take the idea of Bangladesh being important cause in his world his own people are the most important not anyone else and he can't bear the idea that inferior Bengalis are important.
The only fool is you, who is jumping in a joy on a rumour with no concrete evidence. let me repeat your titsy bitsy country is irrelevant when the big boys are around and Pakistan is one of them.
 

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Unrelated to BAF but interesting given the platforms discussed.

@Bilal Khan (Quwa)

" 32 F/A-18E/F and 16 AH-64E"?

That's alot of Taka my friend.

But like I said before, I wish you were running things/providing input, rather than the actual folks doing it.



An F/A-18E Super Hornet fighter for the Kuwait Air Force is now flying from Boeing’s St. Louis, Missouri, facility wearing its frontline paint scheme. That service is in the midst of a major modernization drive, which includes the acquisition of Eurofighter Typhoons, as well as Super Hornets.

The accompanying photos, which Scramble was among the first to notice, were captured by Bryan Baisley, whose Instagram page is well worth checking out. The Super Hornet was making multiple touch-and-goes at the airfield — which Boeing shares with Lambert International Airport — on September 25, 2020.

This is not the first Kuwaiti Super Hornet we’ve seen on a test flight. Previously, on July 2, 2020, one of the F/A-18Fs under construction for that country, with the BuNo 169731, was noted flying at St. Louis, but was still wearing primer paint and was yet to receive its KAF serial.

The Kuwaiti Super Hornets are an interesting hybrid. Often erroneously referred to as Block III jets, the standard for the KAF is actually somewhere between the existing Block II and the Block III that’s now in production for the U.S. Navy.



In the past, Boeing officials have been slightly coy about the exact equipment fit of the Kuwaiti jets. As reported by The War Zone back in May 2018, Dan Gillian, Vice President of Boeing’s F/A-18 program, said there would be at least some overlap between the KAF fighters and the U.S. Navy’s Block III jets and that they would be the most advanced versions of the aircraft to date when they rolled off the production line.

More recently, it emerged that the Kuwaiti order had actually helped fund parts of the Block III program and the KAF’s jets will receive some of the same upgrades, such as the Elbit Systems wide-area cockpit displays.

The KAF fighter force currently operates F/A-18C/D Hornets, which it acquired in the aftermath of the 1991 Gulf War. These fighters equip two frontline squadrons and an operational conversion unit at Ahmed al Jaber Air Base. Total deliveries comprised of 32 single-seat F/A-18Cs and eight two-seat F/A-18Ds. To date, one Kuwaiti F/A-18C has been lost in a crash, which occurred on September 21, 2003, while another damaged in a separate incident was reportedly rebuilt.



A Kuwaiti F/A-18C on exercise in the United States in 1993.

Of all the ‘legacy’ Hornets, the surviving Kuwaiti F/A-18C/Ds are among those in the best condition, and in the past, both Canada and Malaysia have expressed interest in buying them. They are also some of the most colorful, wearing a unique three-tone camouflage scheme, notably absent from the Super Hornet seen here.



A potential Kuwaiti Super Hornet deal worth up to $10.1 billion was announced by the U.S. Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) on November 17, 2016, notifying Congress that U.S. State Department approval for the purchase had been granted. At that time, the order was expected to comprise up to 32 F/A-18Es and eight F/A-18Fs, which would have been a one-for-one replacement of the existing Hornets.
The full scope of the original package, as outlined by the DSCA, was as follows:



At the time, the DSCA stated that the acquisition of the F/A-18E/Fs would allow for greater interoperability with U.S. forces, providing benefits for training and possible future coalition operations in support of shared regional security objectives. It also noted that the Super Hornets would initially supplement and eventually replace the KAF’s legacy F/A-18C/Ds, which have in the meantime been upgraded with AN/AAQ-33 Sniper Advanced Targeting Pods and new weaponry, including Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAMs) and AIM-120C-7 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAMs).





On March 30, 2018, the U.S. Department of Defense announced that Boeing had been awarded a contract worth up to $1.16 billion to produce and deliver 22 F/A-18Es and six F/A-18Fs for Kuwait by 2022. This deal covered long-lead non-recurring engineering required to develop a baseline configuration for the Kuwait jets as well as long-lead items including radar warning receivers and aircraft armament.
Three months later, on June 27, 2018, Boeing received a $1.5-billion contract for the production and delivery of the 28 Super Hornets for Kuwait.

Before the potential Super Hornet buy was even announced, however, Kuwait had signed a contract on April 5, 2016, for the purchase of 28 Typhoons, in a deal between the Kuwait Ministry of Defense and Italy’s Finmeccanica, acting as the Eurofighter prime contractor. This deal covers 22 single-seat and six twin-seat aircraft — the same force composition as chosen for the Super Hornet. The Typhoon contract includes training of an initial eight KAF instructor pilots, plus ground personnel, with the Italian Air Force and an upgrade of infrastructure at Ali Al Salem Air Base in Kuwait.



Kuwait’s Typhoons will be the first to combine the Captor-E active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar with Phase Enhancement P3Eb software, including compatibility with MBDA’s Storm Shadow and Brimstone missiles and other air-to-surface weapons. Kuwaiti Typhoons will also use the Sniper Advanced Targeting Pod.

Although relatively small, the KAF is well equipped and trained. It also has recent combat experience, having supported the Saudi-led coalition’s military intervention in Yemen, conducting airstrikes against Houthi rebels. With the receipt of its new Super Hornets, the Kuwait Air Force will be in even better shape to tackle a wide range of regional threats.
Your economy should have the credibility to secure financing for the Super Bug and Guardian.

In terms of 32 Super Bugs, your DSCA notice would be around $8 bn USD. That would include the fighters, munitions, spare parts and other support mechanisms. Over a 10-year period, your outlay is around $800 million US per year. It's high, but it isn't impossible for a country like Bangladesh.

That said, the Super Bug is exactly the right kind of platform for the BAF.

You get the benefit of a navalized platform (e.g., the salt-erosion proofing) so you can operate it over the sea. You get sufficient range and payload for offensive operations. And it is still an excellent air defence fighter in its own right.

Finally, you can set-up air exercises with Australia and the USN.
 

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Don't waste your energy with that fool , he just can't take the idea of Bangladesh being important cause in his world his own people are the most important not anyone else and he can't bear the idea that inferior Bengalis are important.
Bhai we have juveniles in this forum of all kinds, mental juveniles too who look like adults. :-)

Don't feed trolls - 'ignore' them.
 

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You get the benefit of a navalized platform (e.g., the salt-erosion proofing) so you can operate it over the sea. You get sufficient range and payload for offensive operations. And it is still an excellent air defence fighter in its own right.
Indeed it is the best platform for maritime operations. Basically the reason we are trying to modernise our armed forces is because we had a naval standoff with Burma back in 2007/8 (which we won in international court) .
~90% trade goes through the sea so it a requirement for any MRCA to have a maritime strike capability and secure the shipping lanes that are vital to our economy. The navy has been getting the attention of the policymakers as naval strategy is build strategy.

I personally want the typhoon although an excellent fighter, I am not sure of its maritime strike capabilities ( MARTE ER) against exocet block 3 or the battle proven Hornet.
Please correct me but, we would have to sign GSOMIA and ACSA to get F-18s. GSOMIA is not an issue but signing ACSA could raise some eyebrows in Beijing which is investing heavily in BD.

In terms of 32 Super Bugs, your DSCA notice would be around $8 bn USD.
nah bro, cant afford that much money to be spent entirely on fighters. Gulf states maybe but not BD.



EDIT: signing of ACSA might depend on how the talks between BD and Burma (mediated by PRC) on Rohingya end up. In recent statements , the junta said that they would not take the Rohingya back. So there is a possibility of signing ACSA who knows.
 
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Your economy should have the credibility to secure financing for the Super Bug and Guardian.

In terms of 32 Super Bugs, your DSCA notice would be around $8 bn USD. That would include the fighters, munitions, spare parts and other support mechanisms. Over a 10-year period, your outlay is around $800 million US per year. It's high, but it isn't impossible for a country like Bangladesh.

That said, the Super Bug is exactly the right kind of platform for the BAF.

You get the benefit of a navalized platform (e.g., the salt-erosion proofing) so you can operate it over the sea. You get sufficient range and payload for offensive operations. And it is still an excellent air defence fighter in its own right.

Finally, you can set-up air exercises with Australia and the USN.
@F-6 enthusiast

This is what you are paying for.

Massive upgrade in capability for BAF if that comes to pass.
 

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@F-6 enthusiast

This is what you are paying for.

Massive upgrade in capability for BAF if that comes to pass.
True , training with RAAF and USN will be quantum leap from current capabilities. Western training and tactics is something that Burma will never get access to.

I am going to argue that we can get the same tactics and training if we get EFT/rafale etc. Will be able to participate in Red Flag , Anatolian Eagle. Maintaining the perception of neutrality is essential for our development.

Let's see what happens with the Rohingya crisis.
 

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True , training with RAAF and USN will be quantum leap from current capabilities. Western training and tactics is something that Burma will never get access to.

I am going to argue that we can get the same tactics and training if we get EFT/rafale etc. Will be able to participate in Red Flag , Anatolian Eagle. Maintaining the perception of neutrality is essential for our development.

Let's see what happens with the Rohingya crisis.
It's more likely BAF will fly with the USN Super Bugs in the BoB rather than be invited to Red Flag.

The US is looking for interoperability.

That's all fine and good, but for the BAF that means upping their game to be able to hang.

This means a MAJOR upgrade in capabilities for BAF.

With a Rafale or EFT buy, I don't see France or UK having that much of an interest in training with the BAF.

i.e. no BAF fighters in UK or France and similarly no French, Italian or UK EFTs in Bangladesh.

Similarly, any invitation to Red Flag or Green Flag would definitely anger China, no matter what platform BAF ended up buying.

Super Hornet really is a good choice for BAF given its needs.
 

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Your economy should have the credibility to secure financing for the Super Bug and Guardian.

In terms of 32 Super Bugs, your DSCA notice would be around $8 bn USD. That would include the fighters, munitions, spare parts and other support mechanisms. Over a 10-year period, your outlay is around $800 million US per year. It's high, but it isn't impossible for a country like Bangladesh.

That said, the Super Bug is exactly the right kind of platform for the BAF.

You get the benefit of a navalized platform (e.g., the salt-erosion proofing) so you can operate it over the sea. You get sufficient range and payload for offensive operations. And it is still an excellent air defence fighter in its own right.

Finally, you can set-up air exercises with Australia and the USN.
Bro I really wish you were running things here in baf. But the reality is we will be buying 16 jets (rafale most likely ) and 16 single engine jet after 2025(may be) . And in 2030 we will order another squadron of mrca which will be stationed in Barishal lebu khali airbase which will be operated by Navy and air force jointly.
 

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The only fool is you, who is jumping in a joy on a rumour with no concrete evidence. let me repeat your titsy bitsy country is irrelevant when the big boys are around and Pakistan is one of them.
Why did America make sure you can't anymore of their weapons then huh ? At least we didn't get bombed by America and now in a debt trap with China. :sarcastic:

My country is soooo irrelevant to you , yet has a higher GDP and GDP per capita LMAO

Why is America trying to focus so much on us then ? Why is China investing more in this nation then , why is Japan and Korea trying to invest in Bangladesh then huh ? Exactly

Keep on dreaming that Bangladesh isn't important , Pakistan isn't a big boy in his neighborhood anymore and especially when most of it's military equipment is foreign made.

When people think of a superpower they don't mention Pakistan , they mention America
Bro I really wish you were running things here in baf. But the reality is we will be buying 16 jets (rafale most likely ) and 16 single engine jet after 2025(may be) . And in 2030 we will order another squadron of mrca which will be stationed in Barishal lebu khali airbase which will be operated by Navy and air force jointly.
How will it be Rafale mostly ? Is there any proof
Stop spreading lies about Pakistan, its typical Bangladeshi or Indian mentality, BD only become important due to rise of China and US want to contain them, previously BD was irrelevant in international geo politics, still Pakistan is key country in region due to its location we are Israel of China and US knows that, that is why they are still engaging us, although they have India as their policemen in IOR.
Sorry buddy keep dreaming , you guys are Chinese controlled now and the U.S has no business with you. We are important and just accept that silly wanker
 
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Guys, before we get too excited about 32 Superhornets for BAF, remember that these will totally drain BAF allocation for the rest of this decade and BD needs to start building capabilities in the latter part of this decade against India - think J-35 from China which India will have no counter to till next decade at the earliest.

BAF needs some 16 4+ gen jets from the West with missiles such as Meteor and 2-3 AWACS and MAF is totally neutralised. Any more is a bit of a waste and remember that BAF also will have 8 upgraded and relatively modern Mig-29s.

Also buying from USA will mean that BD will be susceptible to massive pressure from USA to "do things" and that will seriously annoy China and BD needs to strike a middle-ground between USA and China.

The geopolitics that BD finds itself in should rule out any major combat system purchase from USA.
 
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