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Bald and Bankrupt Adventures in the Russian Caucusus(Chechen Republic,Dagestan, Kalymikia)

Discussion in 'Europe & Russia' started by Yankee-stani, Nov 17, 2019.

  1. Yes

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  1. Yankee-stani

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    I live in NYC so why should fawn over big cities laid out I go to travel to see what the country looks like or what they think not to ride their subways or metros fawn over buildings
     
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    Yah in city something has to be different enough to matter. Say museum of local history, restaurants with local cuisine, local cultural stuff, heritage architecture.

    Copy paste new stuff is boring and stupid...coz its just copy and paste...its functional, ok cool...and you paid some architect to use way more glass than needed or whatever...and sometimes it all looks ugly as sin too.

    Moscow subway though is example of being old enough its different in its own way (while subways have proliferated everywhere like you said), I would definitely take a ride in it to see the art and architecture everywhere.

    But in country side and small towns etc, you get true sense and perspective and cultural purity for free.
     
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  3. Yankee-stani

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    If there is one thing I would check out in Moscow if ever travel there is the Kremlin and the Metro yes its fancy and old plus I like trains and rolling stock as well
     
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    You can travel on a small budget! It depends on your needs as a traveller. You are young so you can put up with discomfort more than oldies. Especially our oldies.
     
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    Kalmykia is not in the Caucasus. It is steppe-desert region few hundreds km northeast of the Caucasus.
     
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  6. Yankee-stani

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    Bald has been posting mad content on Kalymikia





    40 km to the nearest town damn
     
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    He actually got "arrested" (And sent back to elista) in the most recent one he posted heh....*stumbes across old gulag, uh oh*
     
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    Shocked to see ppl have support of USSR in Dagestan. Doesn't USSR Commies were against Muslims?
     
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    Lol I love this guy he's very humble but also very hilarious
     
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    USSR was widely supported by most Muslim Republics in fact in 1991 vote to perserve the union most of the republics that wanted to leave were in the Baltics Central Asia and the Caucausus voted to stay besides religious freedoms expanded in the last 3 decades of the Soviet Union mostly under Khruschev and Breznev
     
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    Chechens voted to stay?
     
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    Chechnya was not a separate Republic it was autonomous region of the Russian Socialist Federal Republic(RSFR) in the USSR there two admin zones SSR were their own republics in the USSR constitution they had the right to leave but Chechnya was ASSR, ASSR were autonomous regions of each respective SSRs basically

    March Referendum
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    Subject essay: Lewis Siegelbaum

    “Do you consider necessary the preservation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as a renewed federation of equal sovereign republics in which the rights and freedom of an individual of any nationality will be fully guaranteed?” This was the question put to voters in the Soviet Union on March 17, 1991. By this time, voters in the three Baltic republics of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania overwhelmingly had declared themselves in favor of independence from the Soviet Union and their respective parliaments had issued decrees to that effect. Many other republics, including the Russian Federation, had declared in 1990 the supremacy of their laws over those of the All-Union government, creating what came to be referred to as the “war of laws.” The March referendum thus represented a calculated risk on the part of Gorbachev that a majority of Soviet citizens would support a reconstituted union of republics based on democratic freedoms.

    Over 80 percent of the Soviet adult population (148.5 million people) took part in the referendum, and of them 76.4 percent voted “yes.” Six republics — Armenia, Georgia, Moldavia, and the Baltic republics — did not participate. In Russia, the question of whether the president of the republic should be elected by popular vote was also included on the ballot (and approved by 70 percent of voters). Several other republics also added questions. Even so, in all nine republics the question of retaining the Union was approved by at least 70 percent of voters. The greatest support came from rural areas and the republics of Central Asia, the least from the largest cities — Moscow, Leningrad, and Kiev.

    Gorbachev therefore received a strong mandate to proceed with a new Union treaty. On April 23, he met at Novo-Ogarevo with the nine leaders of the republics that had participated in the referendum to discuss the revision of an earlier draft. These discussions resulted in a new draft issued in June. But at the same time, the Union continued to disintegrate. In early April, Georgia declared independence thus joining the three secessionist Baltic republics. In May, the Russian government established a foreign ministry and an internal security organization, and the Russian parliament granted Eltsin emergency powers. Eltsin’s election as President of the RSFSR in June was widely interpreted as giving him greater legitimacy than Gorbachev who had been elevated to the presidency of the USSR not by popular vote but by the Congress of People’s Deputies. Whether the new Union treaty scheduled to come into effect on August 20 would have rescued at least a rump Soviet Union from extinction — which seemed to be what the majority of voters in the March referendum wanted — is unlikely. In any event, the attempted coup prevented the signing of the treaty and with it, any chance of the Soviet Union’s survival.
    http://soviethistory.msu.edu/1991-2/march-referendum/

    * @Syed Hammad Ahmed Hassan Had it not been for Yeltsin and the hardliners in the CPSU I think USSR could have reformed and the republics in Central Asia and other parts like Ukraine would have stayed but the Augast Coup of 1991 put a kibosh on that, there is misconception in many Muslim Countries and in Pakistan that the USSR was opposed by its Muslim citizens it was mix bag tbh
     
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