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Babur Cruise Missile - Database

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  1. koolio

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    If that is the case, what chances are the Indian S400 missiles going to stop Babur cruise missiles, the Babur cruise missile is very similar to tomahawk cruise missile.
     
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    Wait for a d!ckhead from India to come and brag about it. :)
     
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    Highly interesting. No wonder they fired 59 Tomahawk and 23 hit apparently so a huge volley of missile can overcome air defence IF it's not complete. one or two Pantsir can only do so much.
     
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    Also it depends on the concentration of pantsir present there.....
     
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    Nope, first of all Russian point air defence like panstir or only at the Russian base in Latakia, secondly long range SAM's like the s400 were silent as the US had informed Russia before the stike
     
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    This isn't true Russian Defense expert has just said there was a deal between Russia and US to not to engage any Aerial target until it's direct threat to Russian forces. which Russia has now break after this attack. now in any future attack if same thing happens then we must admit those Air defense are useless in front of Tomahawk.
     
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    long range sams will not pick up terrain hugging cruise missiles, unless you have a strong AWECS in air
    panstir is short range system, it can pick up and probably destroy a few
     
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    Couldn't read what the pictures about. But seeing the picture it seems pantisr themselves destroyed instead of savings others.
     
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    Air Weapons: Pakistani Cruise Missiles

    April 13, 2017: During a March 23rd parade Pakistan showed off the Raad 2 ALCM (air launched cruise missile) for the first time. It appeared to be the same size and shape of the original Raad but with a longer range of 550 kilometers. The original Raad had a range of 350 kilometers. Also called Hatf 8, Raad is a 1.1 ton, 4.85 meter (16 foot) long missile that entered service in 2007. Raad did not use pop-out wings like Western cruise missiles and its design is based more on Russian Cold War era ASMs (air-to-surface missiles).

    A more familiar cruise missile is the Pakistani Babur (Hatf 7), which entered service in 2005. This is a larger 1.5 ton, 7 meter (23 foot) long GLCM (ground launched cruise missile) with a 500 kilometers range and by 2007 range was extended to 700 kilometers. Like the American Tomahawk cruise missile Babur used terrain following and GPS for guidance. In late 2016 Babur 2 entered service. It had a range of 750 kilometers and an improved guidance system that could be used without GPS and was able to attack ships at sea. Raad and Babur can both carry nuclear warheads.

    In January 2017 Babur 3, a submarine launched version, entered service. This version has a range of 450 kilometers and can carry a nuclear warhead. Babur uses 1980s era technology pioneered by the United States with their Tomahawk. This novel 1.3 ton American cruise missile entered service in 1983 and air and sea launched versions are still used. The GLCM version never entered service. Ranges varied from 1,300 t0 2,500 kilometers. The Tomahawk is widely imitated because it does not use any exotic tech breakthroughs.
     
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    December 2016 Babur-2 ISPR press release said "All-Time DSMAC" . Meaning the missile also has Infra red vision for use at Night. This capability wasnt there before.
     
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    IR was not part of earlier missiles. Not aware if these were incorporated in Blk-II or Babur-II either. May be a recent development, may be nothing but wrong choice of words!
     
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    Not, not wrong choice of words. IR is now part of Pakistani cruise missile guidance systems.
     
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    But is it on Babur-II?
    That is where i said "wrong choice of words" :)
    It may be a recent development but not something all the Babur-II missiles have already, at least i am not aware (not saying that me not being aware means that it is not authentic, it may very well be)
     
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    Babur II was made anti ship capable as description said , capable of hitting targets at sea. So must have some form of active seeker.