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Babri Mosque, Lahore Gurdwara: Legal parallels, different outcome

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  1. Shahzaz ud din

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    Babri Mosque, Lahore Gurdwara: Legal parallels, different outcome
    By Anadolu Agency
    Published: November 9, 2019
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    Black Day observering posters are seen in the streets of Muslim majority colonies on 25th anniversary of Babri Mosque demolition in New Delhi, India on December 06, 2017. PHOTO: ANADOLU AGENCY

    KARACHI: As Indian Supreme Court on Saturday handed over the site of 16th century Babri Mosque to Hindus for the construction of a temple, Sikh community in Pakistan feels that the verdict should have taken a queue from Lahore’s Shahid Ganj Gurdwawa (Sikh place of worship) case.

    The two cases bear striking resemblance in terms of claims and litigation.

    They also termed the timing of the verdict “surprising”, as it coincided with the opening of Kartarpur border between India and Pakistan to facilitate Sikh pilgrims to visit their places of worship.

    “The two sites (Babri Mosque and Shahid Ganj Gurdwara) share a close resemblance in terms of litigation, but not in terms of the outcome,” Sardar Ramesh Singh, the chairman of Pakistan Sikh Council, told Anadolu Agency.

    Ramesh gave credit to the Muslim community for conserving Shahid Gunj Gurdwara and not converting it into a mosque after the creation of Pakistan.

    “The land of Babri Mosque has been taken away from Muslim minority in India, whereas the Gurdwara of minority Sikh community still stands at the same site in Muslim-majority Pakistan,” he said.
    The history of the building known as Shahid Ganj Gurdwara — also called Bhai Taru Singh (a Sikh religious scholar) Gurdwara — has striking resemblance with the dispute of Babri Mosque, demolished by a frenzied Hindu mob on December 6, 1992 and now its site has been handed over to Hindus for the construction of a temple.

    Constructed by Kotwal (Chief Police Officer) of Lahore Abdullah Khan, during the reign of Mughal Emperor Shah Jahan in 1653, Shahid Ganj was a mosque till 1799, till Sikh Army under Maharaja Ranjit Singh captured the city defeating Afghans. They converted it into a gurdwara and barred entry of Muslims.

    In 1849, when British took control of Lahore by defeating Sikh Empire, Muslims pleaded for the return of the mosque and knocked the court. But the court using law of limitations, rejected the plea and questioned the delay of 51 years for claiming the mosque. The London-based Privy Council, the highest court of appeal during British era also rejected Muslim claim on May 2, 1940.

    Gurdwara protected by local Muslims

    “Only a few Sikhs were left in the surroundings of Gurdwara, following a huge Sikh exodus in 1947. If the local community had insisted its conversion into mosque, nobody would have stopped them”, said Ramesh.

    Sardar Charanjeet Singh, a Sikh community leader in Peshawar said India should learn from Pakistan in terms of protecting places of worship for minorities.

    “Another Gurdwara was also re-opened in Peshawar five years ago, with the assistance of local Muslims”, Charanjeet, who also runs a facebook page “Peshawari Singh”, told Anadolu Agency.

    He was referring to Gurdwara Baba Biba Singh — named after a 17th century Sikh religious scholar.

    The Gurdawra had been closed following migration of Sikhs from Peshawar to India in 1947.

    Currently, Peshawar hosts the largest population of Sikhs in Pakistan, who started settling down here from adjoining tribal areas and other parts of the country in 1960s for businesses and jobs.

    The number of Sikhs in Pakistan is estimated between 30,000-40,000 out of some 200 million population of this South Asian Muslim country.

    Apart from Peshawar, he said, two other Gurdwaras had recently been re-opened in Mandi Bahauddin and Gujrat districts of Punjab with the help of local Muslims.

    Both Ramesh and Charanjeet termed timing of the verdict as “surprising” and “unfortunate”, when Sikhs were celebrating 550th anniversary of their founder Baba Guru Nanak and the opening of pilgrim corridor, along Kartarpur border between India and Pakistan.

    “The judgment had been pending for over a long time. The Supreme Court could have waited a bit more. But it chose to announce the verdict on this occasion, which could have been taken as a point for inter-communal harmony in both countries,” he said.


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    this is a false equivalency since it misses the fundamental case put up by Hindu side of the Ayodhya case. It wasn't about a mosque and a temple but rather the birth place of the Hindu God Rama.

    There are countless, in the tens of thousands, instances of mosques having been built in India by destroying temples or taking over temple lands - these have not been sought to be reverted back to temples.

    The author should read the specific law passed in 1991 that protected all places of worship as existed circa 1947 but made explicit exemption to Ayodhya for the above specific reason.
     
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    Let me correct you *billions of cases

    Look everyone, at a fine specimen of a facist.
     
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    All mosques are sacred for Muslims. So you need to understand that before you start claiming that there are 1000s of mosques so this one can be destroyed and desecrated.

    The issue is that you cannot prove that it is the birthplace of your god. The supreme court in India is a sham. If public opinion says tomorrow for some reason that your house should be destroyed and people should come and destroy your house.. Will you want the supreme court to give a neutral judgment or one based on public opinion?
     
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    Once again Pakistan showing its humanity while India falls to its animal instincts.

    Both animals and Indians poop in the streets, so they have lots in common.
     
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    LOL they did not just invent a mythical Character like RAM but also destroy a mosque to claim that land to be birth place of that Mythical Character :lol: Chawleen maarne tu koi Bhartiyun se seekhe .
     
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    Something really hurt , does it ? check under the seat , might be a nail you are sitting at :lol:
     
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    You are so upset.. I guess the chai wala has given you something to be proud of. I guess you religion teaches you to disrespect other people's religion...
     
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    but you have stem cell technology in vedic times, also monkey God can fly , Elephant can do something as well, I am sure Monkey God can take those satellites into moon ? :lol:
     
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    Maybe you can do something about this guy.. @waz
     
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    Am I triggered or was it you? You are too stupid to know what mythical means anyways.
     
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    Don't argue with these people. They are drunk on gau mutr. When society as a whole thinks of a cow as its mother and that a cow pisses gold, you know they have reached the lowest level of depravity
     
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    Yes...seen many Hindus drink cow piss as the new cola.

    I am a fan of the cow - love eating beef - nehari, steaks, burgers
     
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    Too much peace efforts by pakistan simply means that we are now weak.all this drama like abrogation,aerial attack on balakot are serious matters but this government is providing chances for other religions to worship.basically I have no idea about the intentions of our government.it totally failed on every front and by the way,we handed over indian pilot within one day.too much love is given by the government of pakistan to india.i think Imran Khan will win the Noble peace prize soon so that he can talk about Madina ki riyasat.160 rupees per kilo tomato,great Muslim riyasat lol.

    Now imran friend sidhu who we Pakistani thinks is a friend of pakistan,requested Khan to open trade routes so that people from India will start trade using Pakistan and reach Uzbekistan.this is what he said and this is what modi wants.they want gilgit to reach uzbekistan.now sidhu is asking for same thing.our government approach is pathetic.we sell Kashmir,probably sell everything soon.
     
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    A great man once said "Walk softly and carry a big stick"

    Pakistan has shown the world we are a peace loving people, and we have shown India we make Fantastic Tea.

    you are that kid in the playground that wants to pick a fight with everyone for no reason.

    France and Germany once hated each other so much and fought so many wars. Now you can go from France to Russia in your own car.

    Goal is not piss yourself fighting everyone, goal is to get mutual peace and development.
     
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