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Danish Moazzam

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Not gonna happen. With low oil price, pandemic, expensive war with Armenia with death toll in the thousands, Azerbaijan has no money to buy JF-17 in the foreseeable future.
We will fund them on future contract. Atleast Kims *** wont be funding it
 

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Is that right! Tell me then, when Pakistan establish and proclaim itself to be an Islamic Republic, that was done by mistake? Or was the creation of Pakistan based on secularism? Better yet, Palestinians invited british to invade them and then requested the british to populate their (Palestinian) lands with white Jews from all over Europe who would carry out a systematic genocide of the Palestinians on the heretical argument that "God gave them this land!!"

And of course, the Muslims in the Middle East were that sinister to start a war against the imported, white European Jews in Palestine. Or perhaps they had nothing to do and were bored outta their minds.

Pakistan did nothing intentionally, my dear friend. It is the zionists and their pets London, Berlin, Washington DC and Paris who attacked Muslims first. Go read the Balfour Declaration in 1917 and understand that the first strike and aggression was carried out by zionists. Go read the Haavara Declaration of 1933 between the zionist for the migration of German Jews to Palestine. Payment for which was given to the Nazis from Anglo Zionist Bank in PALESTINE!!!

I have studied the zionists, their lineage, their history in Europe and North America, for the last 15 years. So I don't run my mouth with incoherent babble, I know what and whom I am talking about. Fact, israel has perceived Pakistan to be an existential threat since Pakistan helped the Arab States during the wars in 1967 & 1973. And more so, since Pakistan became the first and only nuclear state which happens to also be a Muslim majority country. Now if you argue that Pakistan made israel it's enemy, by fighting along side the Arab States in wars against the illegal state of israel. Then my friend, america, britain, france, netherlands, australia and canada are equally guilty of systematically waging war of aggression against Muslim States, as a collective.

Because all that comes to mind, when I read your post, is that only western countries are permitted to fight as a coalition against any other state, and not be implicated as the ones who are guilty of fighting alongside their fellow western states. If the west can have a NATO, then so can the Middle East, Central Asia and the Far East.
I want you to Make a detailed youtube video lecture or lectures, you must have enough material in mind to summarize it for us who are not well informed in this area
max of 3 lectures and min 1
 

MastanKhan

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Is that right! Tell me then, when Pakistan establish and proclaim itself to be an Islamic Republic, that was done by mistake? Or was the creation of Pakistan based on secularism? Better yet, Palestinians invited british to invade them and then requested the british to populate their (Palestinian) lands with white Jews from all over Europe who would carry out a systematic genocide of the Palestinians on the heretical argument that "God gave them this land!!"

And of course, the Muslims in the Middle East were that sinister to start a war against the imported, white European Jews in Palestine. Or perhaps they had nothing to do and were bored outta their minds.

Pakistan did nothing intentionally, my dear friend. It is the zionists and their pets London, Berlin, Washington DC and Paris who attacked Muslims first. Go read the Balfour Declaration in 1917 and understand that the first strike and aggression was carried out by zionists. Go read the Haavara Declaration of 1933 between the zionist for the migration of German Jews to Palestine. Payment for which was given to the Nazis from Anglo Zionist Bank in PALESTINE!!!

I have studied the zionists, their lineage, their history in Europe and North America, for the last 15 years. So I don't run my mouth with incoherent babble, I know what and whom I am talking about. Fact, israel has perceived Pakistan to be an existential threat since Pakistan helped the Arab States during the wars in 1967 & 1973. And more so, since Pakistan became the first and only nuclear state which happens to also be a Muslim majority country. Now if you argue that Pakistan made israel it's enemy, by fighting along side the Arab States in wars against the illegal state of israel. Then my friend, america, britain, france, netherlands, australia and canada are equally guilty of systematically waging war of aggression against Muslim States, as a collective.

Because all that comes to mind, when I read your post, is that only western countries are permitted to fight as a coalition against any other state, and not be implicated as the ones who are guilty of fighting alongside their fellow western states. If the west can have a NATO, then so can the Middle East, Central Asia and the Far East.
Hi,

Pakistan was created by a Secular---.

When western countries fight in a coalition---they have goals and designs and action plans---.

Pakistan has two pilots in two different countries who have kills and the paks have not stopped bragging about their success but overlooking the total defeat of the muslims on the warfront.

Pakistanis did not even have goals and designs even when the GCC was put on a platter regarding yemen and the commander in chief later states " he did not understand ' at the time how big the stakes and rewards were.
 

Pandora

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China and Russia won't allow sale of JF-17 to Azerbaijan because of war.
You underestimate both China and Russia and their will to expand military and geo political clout via Military sales. China has never refused anyone when it comes to Military equipment sales. They run their Military industry just as they run any other business meaning there are no good or bad customers. UAE and Saudis are staunch supporters of US and West yet they were provided with Chinese weapons. Even US doesnt really give a horse $hit as long as you dont step on their toes. Military deal are big money and china would be the last country to ever refuse such a sale.
 

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Hi,

Pakistan was created by a Secular---.

When western countries fight in a coalition---they have goals and designs and action plans---.

Pakistan has two pilots in two different countries who have kills and the paks have not stopped bragging about their success but overlooking the total defeat of the muslims on the warfront.

Pakistanis did not even have goals and designs even when the GCC was put on a platter regarding yemen and the commander in chief later states " he did not understand ' at the time how big the stakes and rewards were.
If Pakistan is secular, going by your definition, then Kashmir should be off our agenda. Great argument you've put there my friend. It seems as though some of my fellow countrymen would go to any lengths to run away from the reality that Pakistan was created on the basis of faith in Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah.

GCC served on a platter by Najdi scum. Recognition of the state of israel, trade with india taking precedence over the Kashmir issue. Sure my dear friend, sure!!
 

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If Pakistan is secular, going by your definition, then Kashmir should be off our agenda. Great argument you've put there my friend. It seems as though some of my fellow countrymen would go to any lengths to run away from the reality that Pakistan was created on the basis of faith in Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah.

GCC served on a platter by Najdi scum. Recognition of the state of israel, trade with india taking precedence over the Kashmir issue. Sure my dear friend, sure!!
Might I suggest that we keep this thread for JFT sales to Azerbaijan discussion rather than on pointless middle Eastern politics which is not relevant to this thread. Feel free to continue with that in its relevant thread.
Kind regards
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Azerbaijan would be a good operator of the block II with IFR

a larger order like 36 x JF17 made up of 24 x JF17A Block II + 12 x JF17B Bock II would be awesome

then PAC can start on Block 3 next year for the PAF and exports for next year
 

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Azerbaijan would be a good operator of the block II with IFR

a larger order like 36 x JF17 made up of 24 x JF17A Block II + 12 x JF17B Bock II would be awesome

then PAC can start on Block 3 next year for the PAF and exports for next year
Azerbaijan will have incurred some losses, so they will need to backfill and in that case they could go for JF17s, but the current conflict with drain their coffers for quite some time, so dont bet on it being anytime soon.
 

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