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  1. Feng Leng

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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...f-injuring-important-china-ties-idUSKCN24T2MP

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States and close ally Australia held high-level talks on China and agreed on the need to uphold a rules-based global order, but the Australian foreign minister stressed Canberra’s relationship with Beijing was important and it had no intention of hurting it.

    U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Defense Secretary Mark Esper held two days of talks in Washington with their Australian counterparts, who had flown around the world for the meetings despite the COVID-19 pandemic and face two weeks of quarantine on their return.

    At a joint news conference on Tuesday, Pompeo praised Australia for standing up to pressure from China and said Washington and Canberra would continue to work together to reassert the rule of law in the South China Sea, where China has been pressing its claims. That has led to friction with other countries in the region and concerns about freedom of navigation.

    Australian Foreign Minister Marise Payne said the United States and Australia shared a commitment to the rule of law and had reiterated their commitment to hold countries to account for breaches, such as China’s erosion of freedoms in Hong Kong.

    She said the two sides had also agreed to form a working group to monitor and respond to harmful disinformation and would look at ways to expand cooperation on infectious diseases, including access to vaccines.

    At the same time, she said Australia did not agree on everything with Beijing - or with the United States.

    The relationship that we have with China is important. And we have no intention of injuring it,” she said. “But nor do we intend to do things that are contrary to our interests.”

    She said Australia and the United States had a shared interest in an Asia-Pacific region that was free, prosperous and secure and were broadly aligned on issues, including China.

    “We don’t agree on everything though. And that’s part of a respectful relationship, is part of a relationship that has endured over 100 years of ‘mateship.’”

    Payne did not elaborate on disagreements with Washington, but said Australia made its own decisions and judgments based on its national interests and security.

    “We deal with China in the same way. We have a strong economic engagement, other engagement, and it works in the interests of both countries.”


    Pompeo, a persistent and forceful critic of Beijing, said in a speech last week that Washington and its allies must use “more creative and assertive ways” to press China to change its ways and called it the “mission of our time.”

    Pompeo also said then it may be time for “a new grouping of like-minded nations, a new alliance of democracies” for this purpose.

    Pompeo has been criticized by some for the speech, given the confrontational approach the Trump administration has taken towards some traditional allies, including in Europe, over issues such as trade.

    Payne declined to comment on it specifically, but said, “the Secretary’s speeches are his own, Australia’s positions are our own,” even if the countries operated on the basis of shared values.

    Responding to a question, Pompeo rejected the suggestion that the administration’s approach was unworkable.

    “This isn’t about picking America versus China,” he said.

    “This is about choosing freedom and democracy against tyranny and authoritarian regime, and I am confident that the democracies, our transatlantic Alliance ...know precisely, which side of that debate they want to be on.”

    While Washington is Australia’s main security ally, China is its largest trading partner and Canberra has strained ties with the latter by pushing for an international inquiry into the spread of the coronavirus that first emerged in China.

    Beijing has imposed dumping tariffs on barley from Australia, suspended some beef imports and warned students and tourists against traveling there, citing racism accusations.


    Such a cowardly country that can't even stand up for its democratic principles. Just a little spanking of the Australian navy in the South China Sea last week and they folded their cards without going all in.
     
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  2. tower9

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    Australia has already destroyed its ties with China. This is just useless backpedaling.
     
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  3. ZeEa5KPul

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    Luckily for Australia, China only needs it to obey four words: dig up, shut up.

    The last two are a bit difficult for them, you know how thick Bogans can be.
     
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    Australia foreign minister has no power. The real power of Australia foreign policy lies on prime minister.

    Seems like PM of Australia has no control or power of their foreign minister or they are running different policy.

    Australia has already pick their side on US while Australia desperate to save China trade ties by trading in Chinese yuan which do not goes well with US. Australia is sandwiching themselves. I am waiting for the day Trump threaten Australia to abandon trade in Chinese yuan and switch back to USD when trading with China.
     
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    From Chinese view, Australia attacked China for no reason. China never did anything bad to it.
     
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    Even if so, China would still much rather have Australia on its side or at least in the middle. Foreign policy, executed correctly, should be to win over neutral countries or decrease hostilities with enemies. Both the US and China imo have not done this ... the numerous threats issued to smaller countries simply does not help either side's cause, which is why no one wants to be on one side.
     
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    I think it has changed. China need to set example with Australia to warn other countries that following Australia footstep will not have good end. The only thing that still gives Chinese a reason to do trade with China is they agreed to use Chinese yuan to settle the bill. But this will not sit well with their US master.

    https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-05-... Steel Co.,,Australian mining giant Rio Tinto.
     
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    Coercive diplomacy hardly works, especially today. Look how Trump treated US allies ... as a result, relations with our allies are much weaker than they were 4 years ago, when he entered office. Setting an "example" by hurting a smaller country is not going to get China anywhere. It seems China is going down this path too with the Wolf Warrior diplomacy.
     
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    Germany, Italy and France did not have much trouble with China becos they know trade with China will hurt badly. The set example method by China works.

    Australian are too blind by their faith to US and they think China has no choice but to trade with Australia. Australia is now digging its own grave by offending 2 giant. First , it side with US against China and then in order to keep the trade with China, they switch to accept RMB with trade with China. It will not sit well with US.
     
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  10. Imad.Khan

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    There is a massive shift in people's mind here. Australia's largest trading partner is China and people have been very vocal about their govt's stance in following US and hurting Australian economic interests. Also people have already concluded that China will replace the US and be the next Super Power.
     
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    China will never trusts the Australian government headed by Scott Morrison.
     
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  12. Feng Leng

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    Exactly! Before, people thought China is a wanna be shupa powa. So they attack us figuratively and literally. They thought they were safe doing so.

    Eventually, we build our military to the point where it gets bigger and bigger. Then we go all out and race to parity with our warhead count to match USA and Russia. Now we have more than 1000 strategic warheads.

    All of a sudden, we are no longer a shupa powa. We are a real superpower! Nobody wants to mess with a country armed to the teeth with nuclear warheads.
     
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    desperate attempt to sell more corona beef.
     
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    As much sense as your sentiment makes, trying to sway any 5 eye countries are a lost cause. Australia is not a small country and China's actions against it will not be seen as such, especially when it was Australia who took the initiative in poisoning the relationship.
     
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    Most of the backtracking (by philippines , Australia,Europe) is happening after India did not respond well to clear cut hostilities by China on border.
    Perhaps China is reaping rich milage out of moving Forces towards Indian border.
    Most of the west and allies were counting on India to give China a hard time on their behalf and they themselves troubling from SCS. For now, plan doesn't seems to be working although bit too early to say, these things takes years and years to bear fruits.
     
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