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Attn Neo : The Matrix as Metaphysics

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  1. Samudra

    Samudra SENIOR MEMBER

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    Me was looking around for some material on The Absolute Reality and finally landed up in this page.

    It's an interesting read. Especially for those fans of The Matrix. :cool:

    Go Here >> http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/new_phil_fr_chalmers.html

    And If you're interested in what I was trying to find go here >> http://www.kheper.net/integral/Philosophical_Thesis_1.html

    You'd understand the heights of philosophical truths Eastern scholars have reached about two thousand years ago if you read the second link. Compare that to Western faiths propagated and you'd understand why people like me go crazy at organized religion!

    I have'nt read much to know if these are wonderful material but I do want to recommend them. They'll atleast serve as a nice introduction I hope.

    :pop:

    (Finally, some positive contribution to Theology section)
     
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    :rofl: Dud, you can't even write English, how do you expect us to believe you can understand that second link?! Even your own link is denying solipsism and the thoughts of Advaita Vedanta, whilst promoting Tantric philosophies (Tantric philosophy incidentally originated from Ancient Pakistan, particularly Swat). Tell us all what you find so amazing about this "metaphysical interpretation" :sniper: .
     
  3. Samudra

    Samudra SENIOR MEMBER

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    When did I tell you I was expecting you to believe anything I wrote or provided ?

    So What ? Who's trying to prove something here ?

    Big deal.

    From what you've written in the above post I can easily gather you've never fully tried to read what I've posted.

    My link does not deny Advaitic thoughts. It denies Solipsism. :lol:

    Why on earth can't you read what I've posted before making some hurried comments ? It makes you look so childish.

    I made this thread to show Neo some of metaphysical concepts used in Matrix. Neo happens to be a great fan of Matrix. And you come running in with your allegations about my English and a rather half-baked understanding of what I wrote! Gosh!
     
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    Dud, Advantia Vedanta is belief in the self only that leaves the factual remainder of what everyone else knows to be true, false. In effect, you deny I exist, which sounds pretty illogical to me (forget about solopism and other broadly defined words which isnt the main point of that article or my post).
     
  5. Samudra

    Samudra SENIOR MEMBER

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    Sorry. Your understanding of Advaita (which you dont even know to spell properly) is quite rudimentary to say the least.

    Advaita does'nt propose anything to be false. It calls them an illusion. Illusion - from the viewpoint of absolutely real. What falls under illusion is most certainly not in the category of absolutely unreal.

    You have no clue about the three tiers of reality proposed by Shankara and you speak of understanding Advaita!

    And this is wikipedia level of understanding!:lol:

    Another gem! If the Atman and Brahman are equal, non-dual how on earth can 'you' not exist ?

    Sorry mate, looks like we've got a lot more to learn before we begin to brag in forums.

    First you made up something to say my links deny Advaita, then after I pointed out your very obvious mistake of not reading something before commenting you come all guns blazing on Advaita - the very essence of which you have not even made an attempt to understand.

    There are many more unpicked leaves in the forest.
     
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    I had to write a report on what is the Matrix, it is indeed a very deep movie that can be viewed form a great many angles. However I do not think Eastern metaphysics with its emphasis on social stasis is in any way superior to monotheism and the central idea that man should serve God and not himself.
     
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    I felt betrayed at the end when I found out the even Neo was a programme. I would have loved an alternate ending.

    I'd like to believe that the Matrix concept is a possibility....
     
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    Then your link which you quote is wrong or you are wrong, and mithya/maya are "ilusionary" concepts.

    (it is a popular misinterpretation that Advaita teaches the world is "illusion" - Advaita does no such thing), but at the absolute level neither real nor unreal, but simply "false" (mithya), and only appearing real through the activity of maya

    Regardless, accoridng to Advainta Vedanta, you still deny I exist because I'm an illusion - great logic..save it - this thread is getting into the absurd.
     
  9. Samudra

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    I do not think so either. I believe all beliefs can be respected so long as they respect all other beliefs that are not against progress. Hence my respect for Akbar, the Sufi saints and people like Abdul Kalam.

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    Hey, where did you get that from ? I really dont know, but as far as I know I don't think Eastern religion propound the idea of serving God as a central thing. It is one of the many ideas.

    But I really am not sure. Elaborate on what you said, please.

    Oh my friend, Advaita does not deny you exist. What then is atman ? You have no idea of what Advaita is. Spare us, please.
     
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    As long as it makes me 18 till I die.