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As Russia and Iran had warned, terrorists in Duma conducted chemical attack poisoning 150 civilians

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  1. mohammad45

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    The story of chemical attacks in Syria has turned to an excuse for western powers and their main stream media to attack Syrian army and resistance of Syrian people.

    As it's discussed for many times in this forum, whenever Syrian Arab Army the so called SAA is winning on the ground and completely surrounds militants who have taken innocent civilians as their human shields and hostage to break resistance of Syrian army and the Syrian government, terrorists reportedly conducted chemical attacks against innocent civilians in terrorist held areas in order to blame it on Syrian government with western media backing.
    The story of white helmets and their fake report on chemical attacks in Syria which led to blaming Syrian army in global scale and especially by supporters of terror groups such as saudi arabia, France, Britain and USA, is also well known.
    Recently Syria media had exposed the lies of white helmets
    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201802241061947215-syria-white-helmets-propaganda/
    UN had based its reports upon a bunch of lies provided by white helmets in Syria.

    Also, recently Syrian army had discovered chemical weapons storage in Damascus suburb sent to terror groups by Saudi Arabia, proving saudi support for chemical attacks against Syrian people.
    https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/40-t...from-militants-in-syria.549771/#post-10344995
    Russia warning of chemical attacks by Saudi supported Jeysh Ul Islam terror group
    https://www.rt.com/news/420948-ghouta-false-flag-chemical-attack/

    Videos of terrible xhemical attack in terrorist held areas of Damascus suburb




    The important point about these chemical attacks is that they are conducted whenever Syrian army surrounds terrorists and wins the ground. Question is, why should Syrian army conduct chemical attacks while winning the ground?

    No sane soldier in any country opens chemical fire on his own countrymen and Syrians with a bright history of alliance against Israelis and imperialist invaders, would be laughable if one thinks that they are poisoning own nation. Meanwhile, images of captured chemical weapons by Syrian army I terror held areas


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    These chemical labs, books about producing chemical agents, weapons and instruments to produce them, has been provided by Saudis to terror groups.
    More informative images of captured chemical weapons, and labs by Syrian army


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    Images of captured chemical labs, weapons, Instruments, materials and mortars equipped with small chemical warheads. These capabilities of Jeysh Ul Islam terrorists is provided by Saudis and mercenaries of Saudi army in Syria.
     
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    Moscow Warns Against Foreign Attack in Syrian Areas Where Russian Troops Located
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    Earlier, the US State Department had expressed concern about the reports of chemical weapons use in Douma that allegedly led to deaths of 40 people, claiming that Russia was accountable for targeting Syrians; the Russian military has refuted the allegations, saying they were aimed at disrupting of Jaysh al-Islam militants' evacuation from E Ghouta.

    "Hoaxes on attacks using chlorine or other poisonous substances by Syrian government forces are continuing to emerge. Another such hoax that has supposedly taken place is the alleged chemical attack in Douma yesterday. At the same time, references have been made to the notorious NGO "White Helmets," which has been repeatedly caught acting with terrorists, as well as other so-called humanitarian organizations based in the United Kingdom and the United States," the ministry said in a statement.

    The ministry went on to say that it had repeatedly warned about possible provocations involving the use of chemical weapons in Syria. Their major aim is to accuse Syrian government forces of chemical weapons use and justify possible military intervention in Syria from abroad, according to the ministry's statement.

    READ MORE: Russian MoD Releases PHOTOS of Devastating Raqqa Bombing by US-Led Coalition

    "It is necessary to warn once again that military intervention under far-fetched and fabricated pretexts in Syria, where the Russian servicemen are deployed at the request of the legitimate government, is absolutely unacceptable and might lead to very severe consequences," the statement said.

    This comes as several media outlets, citing Syrian militants, have accused Damascus of using chemical weapons in Douma. Jaysh al-Islam also claimed that government forces had dropped a chemical bomb on the Damascus suburb of Eastern Ghouta. The US State Department has expressed its concern with the news, rushing to blame Russia "for the brutal targeting of countless Syrians."

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    Syrian authorities and the Russian military have denied the reports. The Russian defense ministry said that Western countries and NGOs like the "White Helmets" are trying to undermine the evacuation of Jaysh al-Islam militants by resorting to allegations of chemical weapons use. Damascus has said it doesn't need chemical weapons to stop terrorists in Eastern Ghouta.
    The media has also reported Syrian army had discovered earlier a clandestine plant in Eastern Ghouta that was used by the terrorists to produce military-grade agents. Prior to the discovery, Syrian authorities had sent more than 100 letters to the UN Security Council confirming that terrorist groups own chemical substances that they use against civilians.

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804081063336939-moscow-intervention-syria-unacceptable/
     
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    Makes sense. SAA never used chemical weapons a single time when they took half of Syria from ISIS. You telling me they use chemical weapons to take a puny besieged city that's not even ISIS?
     
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    Only a Fox news, VOA, PBS, BBC or CNN watching brainwashed person will believe that somehow you'd still need to use chemical weapons, even though you have won back close to 90% of your lost territory!!!.......lol. Why gas these bastards, when they are losing already?

    All Syrian chemical stockpiles have been shipped out to Russia and destroyed long ago. The terrorists are losing territory fast, and they are the one's who are pulling these false flags at the behest of their handlers in Washington.

     
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    Russia says reports of Syria's chemical attack 'bogus,' meant to shield terrorists
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    Pro-government soldiers arrive at the Syrian government-held side of Wafideen checkpoint on the outskirts of Damascus, April 3, 2018. (Photo by AFP)


    Russia’s Foreign Ministry has lambasted as “bogus” reports of a chemical gas attack allegedly conducted by the Syrian government in Eastern Ghouta, warning that any military intervention based on such “invented and fabricated excuses” could lead to severe consequences.

    “The spread of bogus stories about the use of chlorine and other poisonous substances by (Syrian) government forces continues. Yet another such fabricated piece of information about an alleged chemical attack in Douma appeared yesterday,” the ministry said in a statement on Sunday.

    Moscow’s reaction came a few hours after militants and activists linked to them, including the so-called civil defense group White Helmets, claimed that government forces on Saturday had dropped a barrel bomb containing poisonous chemicals in Douma, Eastern Ghouta’s largest town, killing and wounding dozens of civilians.

    Damascus, in a statement released late on Saturday, strongly rejected the allegation and said that the so-called Jaish al-Islam Takfiri terrorist group, which has dominant presence in the town, was repeating the allegations of using chemical munitions “in order to accuse the Syrian Arab army, in a blatant attempt to hinder the Army’s advance.”

    Earlier on Sunday, the US State Department also issued a strongly-worded statement, blaming the Syrian government for purportedly conducting the attack. It further said that Moscow was “ultimately bearing responsibility” for all chemical incidents in the Arab country, regardless of who carried them out.

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    The Syrian government denies terrorist claims about launching a chemical attack in the city of Douma in Eastern Ghouta.

    The Russian Foreign Ministry, elsewhere in its statement, said that Moscow had "warned several times recently against such dangerous provocations."

    "The aim of such deceitful speculation, lacking any kind of grounding, is to shield terrorists ... and to attempt to justify possible external uses of force."

    It added that the “notorious” White Helmets, which has a large role in fabricating the gas attack allegation, “has been repeatedly caught acting with terrorists, as well as other so-called humanitarian organizations based in the United Kingdom and the United States.”

    Meanwhile, Konstantin Kosachev, the chairman of the international affairs committee of Russia's upper house of parliament, said in a statement that reports of a purported gas attack in Douma were bogus and convenient news for the US.

    “This is yet another bogus claim by ‘fakemakers’ and there is a banally obvious reason for it: to undermine the exit of Jaish al-Islam” Takfiri terrorists “from Douma and impede the offensive by Syrian government forces.”

    Eastern Ghouta, which is home to nearly 400,000 people, fell to multiple militant groups in 2012, months after Syria plunged into crisis and has since served as a launch pad for fatal attacks against residents and infrastructure in Damascus.

    The area has witnessed deadly violence over the past few months, with foreign-sponsored terrorists launching mortar attacks on the Syrian capital in the face of an imminent defeat.

    After days of what has been described as one of the deadliest episodes in the war against militants that has gripped Syria since 2011, Syrian forces agreed to let the militants flee to Syria's northern parts in order to save the lives of civilians caught in the crossfire.

    Militant groups and their families have left different parts of Eastern Ghouta in convoys under deals with the government. The flash point has now been fully liberated with the exception of Douma, whose militants reached a deal with the government on Sunday to leave the town.

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    In April last year, US warships in the eastern Mediterranean launched a barrage of 59 Tomahawk missiles against Shayrat Airfield in Syria’s Homs province, which Washington alleged was the origin of a suspected chemical attack on the town of Khan Shaykhun in Syria’s Idlib province a few days earlier.

    Washington has so far failed to provide any concrete evidence to support the accusations, prompting criticisms from many countries and international intuitions for choosing to take unilateral military action hastily and without proof. The strike drew the praise from anti-Damascus militant groups as well as the parties long viewed as their staunch supporters, including Saudi Arabia, Israel, and their Western allies.

    The Syrian government surrendered its stockpiles of chemical weapons in 2014 to a joint mission led by the UN and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), which oversaw the destruction of the weaponry.

    Western governments and their allies, however, have never stopped pointing the finger at Damascus whenever an apparent chemical attack has taken place.

    Unlike the US-led military coalition in Syria, which is operating in the country without permission from Damascus, Russia has engaged in an anti-terror campaign in the Arab country since September 2015 upon an official request from the Syrian government.
     
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    Assad didn't order anything, it is the regime and the leaders on the ground who conducted this attack. Duma is most difficult area to retrieve, they'd rather save the effort of doing ground offensive which will cause many casualties and use chemical weapon to bring them into surrendering. It will work, and their release into Idlib will be negotiated. US will do minor strikes elsewhere in Syria that will not hinder this offensive on ground.

    I don't know much about this militant group, but Syria needs inclusive and new government and militants should surrender if such transition should take place. That is only realistic solution.

    Pro-regime members here should stop being cynical and defending these war crimes. They are desensitized people not involved in war and should be last people to comment on this crisis.
     
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    No army has used chlorine since the early days of WWI. SAA don't need to use chlorine when they got thermobarics and clusters which are far deadlier than chlorine. SAA never used chlorine when they took half of Syria from ISIS in 2016 and 2017.

     
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    So you are and you should be the last person ever to go against the regime. Do you have any prove that assad did the chemical attack?

    I don't know just how many times these paid out MSM will lie out in open while innocent people die.

    And oh so now trump care about muslims dieing?? Where was his stupid twitter account when Palestinian were massacred by Isreali?
     
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    MSM not posting anything, Trump wants to withdraw from Syria. All local governments and international ones see regime as preferable at the moment. So quit dragging them into discussion, the reports are coming from the ground and this is not the first time. I should remind you I'm Muslim, whether Israel or US like or don't like government has little to do with determining if an regime is an ethical. The regime is not moral or ethical, it is not what Muslims should be defending so venomously.

    But its clear Muslims like you and Muslims that support other regimes in Muslim world so venomously have prioritized their interests over doing the right thing. And you may see that as logical thing to do. Because Syrian regime is very important to your interests. Now it's up to you to decide is that important than following God and his ethical code he ordained upon us. And i've said to this to people who support regimes you don't like either.
     
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    MSM not posting anything which delusional world are you living in. It is posting 3 times more!

    Show me proof assad did that!

    Anything sprouted out of trump, cnn and mbs. I am not believing in it. period.
     
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    Read core message of my post, that matters more. Rather than bring forth sources over this specific incident or previous ones, as no matter is brought forth you will dismiss it. So there's no point.

    Btw, I don't hold grudge against one specific regime, I am not favorable of all of them. What I do is give picture of what deserves to be favorable that the people can create.
     
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    Same thing apply to you. No matter how much it is SHOWN to you assad didn't do it. You will also dismiss it.

    You know that it doesn't matter assad control 90% of syria. Now there is no where for rebels to hide. If trump and US love these rebels so much. Take' em to old good USA. They do take PKK, Pehlvi supporters, Ahmedis. Why not these bastards?
     
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    Dude, as always you are saying non sense. The pro syria members are the ones that you see here, not more than a handful of honest folks. Go push your head into FOX news, BBC, VOA, etc crap. Don't waste our time and energy, Israelis Americans saudis Frenches and British liars are enough for us as of now. Those savage militants are killing and poisoning Syrian people, it's my sad times watching stupids like you repeating g bullshits of Trump. If you have slightest belief in Allah please for his sake, shut that big hole your mouth.
     
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