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As Pakistan, Bangladesh ties thaw, India keeps close watch on them – and China
  • Warming Islamabad-Dhaka ties will have implications for geopolitical dynamics in South Asia
  • A former Indian diplomat believes China is behind Pakistan’s initiative to get closer to Bangladesh
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Pranay Sharma


Pranay Sharma
Published: 5:11pm, 13 Jan, 2021

Pakistan’s move last week to lift visa restrictions for Bangladeshi citizens, and Dhaka’s request that Islamabad issue an apology for mass killings during its 1971 war of independence, have raised concerns in Indian diplomatic circles that its neighbours are attempting to smooth over their strained bilateral ties.

Any improvements to the mostly lukewarm relations between Pakistan and Bangladesh in recent years will have implications for the complex geopolitical dynamics in South Asia, where India sees Bangladesh as an ally but Pakistan as a rival. New Delhi, which remains locked in conflict with Beijing at their shared Himalayan border, is also seeking to counter China’s growing influence in the region, which it deems its traditional area of influence.

To former Indian diplomat Pinak Chakravarty, who was New Delhi’s high commissioner in Dhaka between 2007 and 2009, China is behind Pakistan’s initiative to improve ties with Bangladesh.

“I have no doubt it is China that is egging on Pakistan to normalise ties with Bangladesh and to be more active in the country,” Chakravarty said. He added that China wanted Pakistan to activate its “assets” in Bangladesh so they could be used against India, referring to pro-Pakistani elements in Bangladesh, such as the Bangladesh Nationalist Party, which sheltered Indian insurgents when it was in power from 1991 to 1996 and 2001 to 2006.

China’s thinking behind such a move, he said, was to develop its own support base among countries in India’s neighbourhood and use them against New Delhi, as part of its “string of pearls” strategy.

For Bangladeshis, the long-sought apology from Pakistan for the 1971 genocide is an emotive issue, and one necessary for relations to move forward. Said Shahab Enam Khan, professor of International relations at Jahangirnagar University: “The nation still suffers from the memories and trauma of the genocide.”

Bangladesh estimates that between 1 and 3 million people were killed by Pakistani forces, and more than 400,000 Bengali-speaking women were raped by the army during Bangladesh’s war of independence from Pakistan that year.

 

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Bangladesh estimates that between 1 and 3 million people were killed by Pakistani forces, and more than 400,000 Bengali-speaking women were raped by the army during Bangladesh’s war of independence from Pakistan that year.

Just for the record , rapes and murders were majorly done by Indian trained terrorists disguised as Pakistan Army men. This has been revealed with evidence on several occasions. Modi himself as Indian prime minister admitted India's direct involvement in east Pakistan's debacle.
 

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As Pakistan, Bangladesh ties thaw, India keeps close watch on them – and China
  • Warming Islamabad-Dhaka ties will have implications for geopolitical dynamics in South Asia
  • A former Indian diplomat believes China is behind Pakistan’s initiative to get closer to Bangladesh
Topic | India
Pranay Sharma


Pranay Sharma
Published: 5:11pm, 13 Jan, 2021

Pakistan’s move last week to lift visa restrictions for Bangladeshi citizens, and Dhaka’s request that Islamabad issue an apology for mass killings during its 1971 war of independence, have raised concerns in Indian diplomatic circles that its neighbours are attempting to smooth over their strained bilateral ties.

Any improvements to the mostly lukewarm relations between Pakistan and Bangladesh in recent years will have implications for the complex geopolitical dynamics in South Asia, where India sees Bangladesh as an ally but Pakistan as a rival. New Delhi, which remains locked in conflict with Beijing at their shared Himalayan border, is also seeking to counter China’s growing influence in the region, which it deems its traditional area of influence.

To former Indian diplomat Pinak Chakravarty, who was New Delhi’s high commissioner in Dhaka between 2007 and 2009, China is behind Pakistan’s initiative to improve ties with Bangladesh.

“I have no doubt it is China that is egging on Pakistan to normalise ties with Bangladesh and to be more active in the country,” Chakravarty said. He added that China wanted Pakistan to activate its “assets” in Bangladesh so they could be used against India, referring to pro-Pakistani elements in Bangladesh, such as the Bangladesh Nationalist Party, which sheltered Indian insurgents when it was in power from 1991 to 1996 and 2001 to 2006.

China’s thinking behind such a move, he said, was to develop its own support base among countries in India’s neighbourhood and use them against New Delhi, as part of its “string of pearls” strategy.

For Bangladeshis, the long-sought apology from Pakistan for the 1971 genocide is an emotive issue, and one necessary for relations to move forward. Said Shahab Enam Khan, professor of International relations at Jahangirnagar University: “The nation still suffers from the memories and trauma of the genocide.”

Bangladesh estimates that between 1 and 3 million people were killed by Pakistani forces, and more than 400,000 Bengali-speaking women were raped by the army during Bangladesh’s war of independence from Pakistan that year.

Did china elect Modi? Pak bd alliance is due to the side effect of Modi becoming PM
 

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in school we learned 2 lakh (200,000) when did this get revised to 4 lakh?
Very old claim . Read ...
ডেভিসকে প্রশ্ন করা হয়েছিল, সাধারণত বলা হয় ২ থেকে ৪ লাখ নারী ধর্ষিত হয়েছিল, এই সংখ্যাটি কি ঠিক? জবাবে ডা. ডেভিস বলেন, সঠিক সংখ্যাটি অজানা।

… যে বিপুল সংখ্যক নারী ধর্ষণের শিকার হয়েছিলেন সম্ভবত সে তুলনায় এ সংখ্যা খুবই নগণ্য

https://opinion.bdnews24.com/bangla/archives/5324

So the number shall keep increasing if soon BAL and Pakistan won't make a secret pact ! LMAO!
 
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Just for the record , rapes and murders were majorly done by Indian trained terrorists disguised as Pakistan Army men. This has been revealed with evidence on several occasions. Modi himself as Indian prime minister admitted India's direct involvement in east Pakistan's debacle.
Mate 3 million figure was put in Soviet media which was like todays godi media back then... india learned all these tricks from them... it has been debunked by many historians who put the number at most 80000...
 

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Mate 3 million figure was put in Soviet media which was like todays godi media back then... india learned all these tricks from them... it has been debunked by many historians who put the number at most 80000...
Even if your number is correct , still it's war crime . Or do you think these people are cockroaches?

It's better to move on instead of using fictitious numbers, since there is no actual evidence of such figures.
 

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India's foreign policy got them to where they are today , surrounded by Chinese allies lmao. And then these mfs cry when Bangladesh is ignoring them and then proceeds to give Myanmar aka another Chinese ally a submarine to go against Bangladesh.

With Biden in power who's pro CCP , India knows it fked up.
 

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why India doesn't want Bangladesh to have good relations with regional powers like Pakistan or China?
You know this answer don't you ? So why asking the question ?

Btw , to answer your question, isn't one Pakistan enough for India ?

If Bangladesh have nice relationship with Pakistan ( officially , as I don't think there is any enmity between Bangladeshi and Pakistani people apart from this PDF or some online forums ) ,then Indian have to face two Pakistan ( perhaps worse , as tbh Bangladeshi hate to India is more intense ) ,and they will become sandwich between two Muslim nation that was once one.

And it will not be very convenient for them.

About China, India unfortunately and mistakenly think China as their equal ( it's actually India's wet dream though!) That's the reason want to beat China , so better relationship with neighborhood should be the headache of India .
 
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Even if your number is correct , still it's war crime . Or do you think these people are cockroaches?

It's better to move on instead of using fictitious numbers, since there is no actual evidence of such figures.
Nobody is saying that it's fine if the number is lower. Anyone(regardless if a soldier or civilian) should be punished if they indeed did rape someone. The point here being made is that such high numbers of "rapes" by the Pakistani Army...are nothing but propaganda. Consider for a moment...an army(PA) that is surrounded on all sides by a much larger army(IA)...at war...while simultaneously dealing with mutiny(some Bengali factions part of PA joining BD movement) and sabotage/resistance by the civilian population causing hurdles in logistics...
...in that chaos and hopeless situation...what would be of utmost importance? It would be fight or flight...a soldier would be mainly thinking of either fighting until the last breath...or if his resolve isn't as strong...then he would be more concerned about ways out from a hopeless situation. How many soldiers would be able to go around raping in that situation?
...and that is not even considering the professionalism/code of conduct that is instilled into the military...as an institution(yes there are exceptions but I'm talking in general).

Most of what gets pinned on PA...is a mix of lies(like insanely unbelievable numbers thrown around) and crimes of militia groups that were raised to support PA.

In any case...if there were war crimes that occurred...the appropriate thing would be(or rather would have been...with time that has passed it would be almost impossible now) to gather proof and present it in the UN. Otherwise...let's bury the past and try to build a better future(Pak/BD).
 

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Nobody is saying that it's fine if the number is lower. Anyone(regardless if a soldier or civilian) should be punished if they indeed did rape someone. The point here being made is that such high numbers of "rapes" by the Pakistani Army...are nothing but propaganda. Consider for a moment...an army(PA) that is surrounded on all sides by a much larger army(IA)...at war...while simultaneously dealing with mutiny(some Bengali factions part of PA joining BD movement) and sabotage/resistance by the civilian population causing hurdles in logistics...
...in that chaos and hopeless situation...what would be of utmost importance? It would be fight or flight...a soldier would be mainly thinking of either fighting until the last breath...or if his resolve isn't as strong...then he would be more concerned about ways out from a hopeless situation. How many soldiers would be able to go around raping in that situation?
...and that is not even considering the professionalism/code of conduct that is instilled into the military...as an institution(yes there are exceptions but I'm talking in general).

Most of what gets pinned on PA...is a mix of lies(like insanely unbelievable numbers thrown around) and crimes of militia groups that were raised to support PA.

In any case...if there were war crimes that occurred...the appropriate thing would be(or rather would have been...with time that has passed it would be almost impossible now) to gather proof and present it in the UN. Otherwise...let's bury the past and try to build a better future(Pak/BD).
Cool boy ! One short answer is , do not pay attention on what GoB Bangladesh claims. Let your leaders/authority deal with it , let it remain political matters .

Almost no one in Bangladesh ( other than few clowns )is convinced by the official claim of GoB.

In a video Mujib claimed that Pakistani army burnt 25 - 30 millions house and the reality is , there were not such amount of house in East Pakistan in 1971 .

The business related to dead body are ancient in this sub continent, so the business of exaggeration , and people with minimal common sense are least bothered by it .
 

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