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As India ‘Rethinks’ S-400 Acquisition, Russia Puts ‘Everything On Table’ For Pakistan

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This is a good opportunity to give strength to our weak air defence umbrella

Few years ago we did not have anything in high to mid range sam than we bought ly 80 pak must buy s 400 even in small numbers check mated french rafale

Remember only india or pak one of them can buy india is under pressure from usa

We also think of EW and SU 35 will change air power balance in pak favour
 

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We need air defence from Russia. Forget the S-400. Pakistan should consider the S-500 which will soon be in service. Three units will secure every inch of Pakistan air space.
 

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Pakistan should go for a large military package from Russia for 20 MI-35s, 4 S-400 systems, and around 40 SU-57s.

Pakistan could be the 2nd customer for the SU-57 after Algeria if we play our cards right. Think about it we dont have a huge requirement for an air dominance fighter so 40 would be more than enough. This would easily be able to supplement the Project AZM/J-31 fighter while providing immense capabilities right away to Pakistan for a reasonable cost and would be far more beneficial than going for SU-35s.
 

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Pakistan should go for a large military package from Russia for 20 MI-35s, 4 S-400 systems, and around 40 SU-57s.

Pakistan could be the 2nd customer for the SU-57 after Algeria if we play our cards right. Think about it we dont have a huge requirement for an air dominance fighter so 40 would be more than enough. This would easily be able to supplement the Project AZM/J-31 fighter while providing immense capabilities right away to Pakistan for a reasonable cost and would be far more beneficial than going for SU-35s.
And who is gonna finance it? You?
 

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This is a good opportunity to give strength to our weak air defence umbrella

Few years ago we did not have anything in high to mid range sam than we bought ly 80 pak must buy s 400 even in small numbers check mated french rafale

Remember only india or pak one of them can buy india is under pressure from usa

We also think of EW and SU 35 will change air power balance in pak favour
Very easy to blabber with stuffed tummy and while living in comforts, abroad... How about first thinking where that money will come from...and second, how about to spend it on welfare of your population especially on education, healthcare than weapons.
 

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First, we don't have the money.
Second, those Russian anti aircraft defences like S-400 are a joke, as the Israeli airstrikes in Syria repeatedly demonstrate.
 

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F-35 Goodies?
they would want partial tech transfer and we won't agree to do so on the F-35.

Alternatively, for the F18/F16, everything I read says we would be okay with a major tech transfer offer and shifting the entire ecosystem to India
First, we don't have the money.
Second, those Russian anti aircraft defences like S-400 are a joke, as the Israeli airstrikes in Syria repeatedly demonstrate.
Israelis hit S300, not S400. S400 is potent, especially in that part of the world (S.Asia)
 

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Pakistan should go for a large military package from Russia for 20 MI-35s, 4 S-400 systems, and around 40 SU-57s.

Pakistan could be the 2nd customer for the SU-57 after Algeria if we play our cards right. Think about it we dont have a huge requirement for an air dominance fighter so 40 would be more than enough. This would easily be able to supplement the Project AZM/J-31 fighter while providing immense capabilities right away to Pakistan for a reasonable cost and would be far more beneficial than going for SU-35s.
What would be the bidding rate??
Will you pay in cash or goods like Karachi Port??
 

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As India could be re-evaluating its stand on acquiring the Russian S-400 air defense system fearing US sanctions, its rival Pakistan may have quietly discussed with Moscow the possibility of getting the deadly weapon.

This has sparked speculation that if New Delhi, which is a QUAD ally with Washington, drops out of this deal, Islamabad would not miss any chance to acquire the deadly weapon, which is rumored to have the capability of taking down even stealth fighters.

According to Dawn, a senior Pakistan official claimed that Russian President Vladimir Putin had given Islamabad a “blank cheque”. He was referring to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s recent visit to Islamabad, during which he had promised that Moscow would supply the Islamic nation with necessary military equipment to fight terror.

“I came with a message from my president (Putin) that tell Pakistan we are open for any cooperation, whatever Pakistan needs Russia is ready for it,” Lavrov was quoted by the Pakistani official as saying.

“In other words, the Russian president offered us a blank cheque,” the official added.

As reported by The Eurasian Times, Lavrov and his Pakistani counterpart Shah Mahmood Qureshi last week agreed to cooperate in their fight against terrorism with the former promising to supply Pakistan with military equipment.

Lavrov also said an agreement was also reached on conducting additional joint military exercises such as the Arabian Monsoon maritime drill. The Russian foreign minister arrived in Islamabad after concluding his visit to India.

“We stand ready to strengthen the anti-terrorist potential of Pakistan, including by supplying Pakistan with special military equipment,” Lavrov had said, without giving details about the equipment.

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Now, with the Pakistani official’s remark that Putin has given Islamabad a “blank cheque”, the possibility of the Islamic nation acquiring the S-400 cannot be ruled out.

Pak Toying With S-400 Idea?
Pakistan has been toying with the idea of acquiring the Russian S-400 air defense system ever since the news of India-Russia signing a deal on the weapon system emerged in 2017.

“Russia has good tanks, helicopters, electronic equipment, air defense systems that Pakistan may consider. S-400 is a big-ticket number and it will all depend on our budget,” a top military official was quoted as saying by Sputnik News on February 15, 2017.

At that time, questions were raised whether Pakistan would be able to spend that kind of money required to buy S-400. According to an analysis published in The Diplomat, Pakistan would require $2.5 billion to buy at least three regiments of S-400.

“Given that Pakistan was not able to or willing to pay $700 million for eight F-16 fighter jets (a clear budgetary priority) from the United States in 2016 following Washington’s refusal to provide Foreign Military Financing (FMF) support, it is highly doubtful that the country’s defense ministry would allocate $2 billion or more for a new missile air defense system in the near future given other defense priorities,” defense analyst Franz-Stefan Gady wrote.

India-Russia Pact
In October 2018, New Delhi and its old military ally Moscow formally inked a $5.2 billion deal for the weapon system during Russian President Putin’s visit to India. Under this, India would buy four to five regiments of Russian-made S-400 Triumf advanced Air Defense Systems.

The S-400 is considered the most advanced air defense system comprising radars, control equipment, and multiple types of surface-to-air missiles to confront and destroy almost all kinds of aerial targets — aircraft, drones, bombs, cruise missiles, and ballistic missiles.

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However, the US had warned India against the deal in the wake of the 2017 law, called Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA).

According to a recent Reuters report, Washington has told New Delhi that it is unlikely to get a waiver on its planned acquisition of Russian S-400 systems.

The Trump administration had in December imposed sanctions on Turkey for buying that weapon from Russia. Other countries that are facing US sanctions include Iran, North Korea, and Russia.

The Russian S-400 missile is considered the most lethal air defense system in the world, with the capability of bringing down advanced stealth fighters.

The US feels threatened by the S-400 missile, suspecting that it could be modified to intercept American fighter jets, including its “most advanced” F-35 stealth fighter jets.

Russia, on the other hand, believes that Washington is arms-twisting the countries which want to sign S-400 deals with Moscow.

“It wasn’t me who said the US exercised pressure on India but any other country which wanted to sign an agreement with Russia on the delivery of weapons… If the US says this overtly, we all will know, but we also know the reciprocal reaction,” Lavrov told reporters in New Delhi last week.

“With India, we do not discuss these statements by the US. Instead, we confirmed that we are going into diplomatic military cooperation. We have an intergovernmental committee. The military-technical cooperation has its own plan. We also discussed additional manufacturing of the Russian military equipment in India within the concept of made in India and in the concept of independent India. So here I don’t hear any fluctuations or changes from our Indian partners and friends,” he added.


Jaishankar’s slip of tongue ?


only the very naïve or unkind would think that External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar’s slip of tongue in his opening remarks at the press interaction in Delhi last week with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who was sitting next to him, was not just that – a slip of tongue. Describing the time-tested and very cordial nature of the relationship, Jaishankar said “India-US,” instead of “India-Russia.”
S 400 is coming later this year. I have never came across any news that India is canceling it.
 

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