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Many other countries will soon rush to buy JF-17 not only that it's a potent weapon but because of the constraints that the US and Russia and UK and France attache with their weapons...even after you pay them in full. The way Pakistan suffered in the 90s became a precedent for the rest of the world. If it can happen to Pakistan, it can happen to anyone...for how long the people should tolerate hoodlums like US and France ?
 

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As explained before, that seat is an option. In Pakistani and Nigerian service JF used MB Seats. But on request of the customer they can be changed to Chinese seats as was done for the Burmese JF-17s and will be done for the Argentinian ones. Please do some basic research Before trying to play spoiler.

Between the British ejection seat, Russian RD-93 engines there are way too many dependencies on foreign suppliers
Argentina is going to think through this. But then given the precarious state of the Argentine economy there is not much to think about
 

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Hi,

It happened due to what the Argentinian air chief / delegation stated over a decade ago while visiting Kamra.

" how can I decide about an aircraft if I cannot ride in it ". He was talking about the lack of 2 seater JF17 aircraft
 

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This is the best news of the year 2021 for Pakistan. Now we must look after Malaysia for next deal.
 

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Can you guys please ignore Indian troll Tai Hai Chen?

This guy's whole job in Indian call center is to pretend as Chinese and say stupid things in every military forum.

Anyway nobody wants Tejas the fighter that does not fight.

Even more important why the Mods tolerating such fake Indian pretenders on PDF. People need to understand, Indians have the largest number of call centres in the world to scam people. They do scamming and lies for living.
 

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China and Pakistan have done exceedingly well with JF -17 block III export. Bigger export players like US and Russia have ignored the light weight export jet potential at their own loss.

I wonder if it would be viable for US to build and market a low cost variant of the fabled F-16! Countries like Argentina would obviously stay away for US equipment for obvious political reasons, but some African countries would certainly find the prospect appealing. :-)
Best value plane in the world is JF17 Block 3, the sales are proving it.
 

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The truth is Argentina does not have so much money for large purchases and want to use funds slowly and in short supply.

Malaysia can get FA-50. They don't want Tejas because it doesn't fight and it doesn't yet have Uttam ready.
 

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Argentina intends to buy 12 JF-17 Thunder jets from Pakistan

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Argentina includes $664 Million in funding to buy 12 PAC JF-17 jets from Pakistan in its budget proposal
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PAF personnel stand guard in front of 14 dual-seat JF-17B multi-role aircraft rolled out at a ceremony at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex in Kamra. Photo: AFP
PAF personnel stand guard in front of 14 dual-seat JF-17B multi-role aircraft rolled out at a ceremony at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex in Kamra. Photo: AFP

Argentina plans to buy 12 JF-17 Thunder fighter jets from Pakistan, as per international media reports.
One report states that Argentina has officially included $664 Million in funding for the purchase of 12 PAC JF-17A Block III fighters from Pakistan in a draft budget for 2022.

The budget has been presented in the country's parliament, said the news report. However, this does not mean that the deal has been finalised as Argentina has not signed on the sale accord yet but it shows the country's intention to buy the fighter aircraft from Pakistan.
Argentina has tried to buy jets from a few other countries in the world over the past couple of years but always fallen short due to a lack of funds or British objections.

Most recently last year, Britain blocked the sale of South Korean fighter jets to Argentina.

The Argentine Defence Minister described the move as British “imperial pride” before posting “Malvinas Argentinas” on Twitter.

JF-17 Thunder details
According to the UK Defence Journal, the JF-17 Thunder is a single-engine multi-role combat aircraft developed jointly by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation of China. The builders say that the JF-17 can be used for multiple roles, including interception, ground attack, anti-ship, and aerial reconnaissance.

More than half of the JF-17 airframe, including its front fuselage, wings, and vertical stabiliser, is produced in Pakistan, whereas 42% is produced in China, with the final assembly taking place in Pakistan.
Argentina plans to buy Rs111.6 bn JF-17 Thunder fighter jets

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Argentina plans to buy Rs111.6 bn JF-17 Thunder fighter jets

ISLAMABAD: Argentina plans to purchase 12 JF-17 Thunder aircraft from Pakistan, it emerged on Friday.

The news was revealed by Pakistan Strategic Forum on Twitter, stating that the South American country has officially included $664 million (Rs111.6 billion) in funding for the purchase of fighter jets in a draft budget for 2022 presented to its Parliament.

The Argentine Air Force has selected Pakistan’s JF-17 Thunder, rejected offers from Russia, USA and India.

“The 12 JF-17s will include 10 single seater Block IIIs and 2 dual seat Block IIIs,” the forum said in a tweet.

“The PAC JF-17A Block III is a supersonic, multirole 4+ generation fighter aircraft able to perform combat air patrol, air interdiction, beyond visual range integrated battle, long range maritime strikes, standoff range precision ground strikes, anti-radiation SEAD/DEAD missions and electronic warfare,” it added.

The two nations have had friendly ties for a while as Argentina has been supported the resolution put forward by Pakistan on the right to self-determination which is debated annually at the General Assembly of the United Nations.
Argentina will buy 12 JF-17 blocks III fighters from Pakistan
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Argentina has officially allocated $664 million in its next year’s budget for the acquisitions of 12 JF-17 Block-III fighter jets from Pakistan.

The 12 fighter jets will include 10 single-seater Block IIIs and 2 dual-seater Block IIIs, stated the details.

Previously in last December, it was first stated that Argentina was considering acquiring JF-17 Thunder aircraft from Pakistan to associate its defensive competencies.

Whereas, Argentine Air Force (AAF) had made a contract with the South Korean aerospace company, KAI, for the procurement of 12 FA-50 fighter jets.

Conversely, South Korea canceled the deal after it capitulated to the diplomatic compression of the United Kingdom (UK), which is Argentina’s geopolitical opponent.

Ties between the UK and Argentina have been stressed since the 1980s after the latter attacked British Overseas Territories (BOTS), namely the Falkland Islands and its territorial dependency, South Georgia, and the South Sandwich Islands, in 1982.

The move ensued in the 10-week long assumed Falklands War that ended with a British victory.

Defense specialists are of the view that the procurement of JF-17 Block-III fighter jets by the AAF could have enormous political and military complications for the UK next to the Falkland Islands and the South Sandwich Islands.

Whereas, The JF-17 Block III is a supersonic, multi-role 4+ generation fighter aircraft. It is capable of performing combat air patrol, air interdiction, beyond visual range, integrated battle, long-range maritime strikes, standoff range precision ground strikes, anti-radiation SEAD/DEAD missions, and electronic warfare.

Its primary weapon is the PL-15 active radar-guided long-range air-to-air missile with an operational range of more than 180 km. Its subordinate weapon is the PL-10 IR missile which is a short-range air-to-air missile with an operative range of 20 km.

The JF-17 has a top speed of Mach 2.0, a service ceiling of over 55,000 feet, and a newer and much more powerful engine than its precursors.

It also topographies superior sensor fusion and avionics (especially electronic warfare systems), a large HUD and Helmet Mounted Display (HMD) targeting systems, and 8 hardpoints for the assortment of missiles.
 
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The truth is Argentina does not have so much money for large purchases and want to use funds slowly and in short supply.

Malaysia can get FA-50. They don't want Tejas because it doesn't fight and it doesn't yet have Uttam ready.
Yes. Malaysia will likely buy FA-50. They have good relations with SK And others in the region have already bought that aircraft.

Tejas actually has a slightly higher chance of a sale to Malaysia than JF, but only if India can get uttam and their indigenous jammer ready in time, neither of which are ready, because the current ones on the Tejas are Israeli and Malaysia will not buy those. That’s also taking into consideration Malaysia ignores the fact that nobody has wanted the Tejas so far due to its piss-poor performance (MK-1 variant).

JFs chances went down substantially with chinas actions, even if the Malaysian government is okay with such a deal, which I think they will be, they’ll be pissing off their public, something they don’t want to do.

JF is the most capable and the cheapest of the three, and it indeed did have the highest chances, even if chinas actions seem minor, the public opinion can effect the purchase a lot, no government wants to lose voters.
 

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