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Featured Anatomy of the Hatf-VIII Ra’ad Air Launched Cruise Missile

Discussion in 'Pakistan Strategic Forces' started by JamD, Jun 27, 2016.

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    hmmm lets see, maybe because when It was designed JF was not in pictures
     
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    point is jf-17 doesnt has the strategic role for now given we have 70+ mirages

    they will get it by 2025

    my hunch is raad can be carried but if not, fix will be very easy
     
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    According to the PAF Book for 1998-2008, the J-10A/FC-20 was sought to fulfill the strike role (it's stated plainly, with 'strike' explicitly mentioned).

    Ultimately, if the day comes that the PAF's Mirages just cannot fly and a gap is in place between that day and when Project Azm comes online, I think the PAF will just acquire the J-10 (ideally, the J-10C if AVIC gets approval to export it).
     
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    this is true, the only reason why it may not happen is if block 3 evovles on the same line as gripen, i.e new engine and CFTs/increase range makes it a decent alternative..if JF-17b3 attains 70% of j-10 range/payload it should be fine given the ever shrinking funding... though its not an optimal delta wing aircraft

    whether mirage2000 used will ever be sought is an interesting question..probably not given its lack of spares in the future will create a problem
     
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    what we should do is we need to develop an export version of Raad, and market it and sell it.......It will help financially with further development of Raad
     
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    You think PAF is still trying to get J-10's ? I thought that supposed deal is dead
     
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    The PAF would never tolerate a gap in an already gained strategic element. Either the JF-17 is configured to carry the Ra'ad ALCM (or some other nuclear-capable LACM) OR an interim platform is acquired to bridge the loss of the Mirages and Project Azm. IMO that bridge can be the Su-35, J-10 OR FC-31. In 2016, IHS Jane's said the PAF had sought an interim platform (ahead of Project Azm/FGF), 30-40 aircraft. The Su-35 and J-10 were candidates.
     
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    Wow
     
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    i don't know why but it's not counted in top 10 cruise missile list anywhere even Turkey's SOM is counted which is a good cruise missile but i don't think that it matches with RAAD because RAAD is nuclear too and by characteristics it appears to be better than other cruise missiles like storm shadow etc..
     
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    Hi,

    Fishermen don't make financial polices---but war is something different---. A war and war strategy is part of the psyche of a human being---it is a part of our genetic make up---.

    The greatest warrior and general of all time Subotai Bahadur was just an ordinary man---son of a blacksmith---but had an extraordinary talent of stretgy and tactics in combat---. His tactics and strategy made the mongols conquer the largest empire the world has ever seen.
     
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    But you are an ordinary man with often ill-sighted opinions about strategy.
     
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    To judge someone you first need to establish your own credentials... or what you say about others then also holds true about your opinion of others


     
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    But we are all ordinary people, judging other ordinary people. In this case, my judgment is based on his caustic, acerbic, biased remarks about serving uniformed officers, whom he considers less patriotic and less intelligent than himself. I can guarantee you, anyone who adopts this kind of abhorrible attitude in front of me will find me on his case. With vengeance.
     
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    Raad was and still is Pakistani strategic weapon. I just can't believe JF17 engineers didn't bring Raad into consideration while designing the plane. Soon we won't be having a plane to deliver that weapon as Mirages are already running out of their age and getting retired.