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Adonis

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You consider 21st century grassroots social media to be less authentic than Cold War era bureaucratic, centralized government propaganda TV channels?
Lol.....then shut down your Global Times as well...you already have more authentic source to tell about China.
 

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These days, some serious words like "democracy, human rights, freedom, genocide" have been watered down so much, people don't take them seriously anymore.
 

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This is good and I support this. China is an important "balancing" power against 100% global domination by the West.

That's why China's continued rise is seen as something positive.

For this Uighurs can be sacrificed. Though I hope both Han and Uighurs find a way to coexist peacefully.
The Uyghurs have not been sacrificed at all, of course this is not the point I want to talk about.

I think the rules of the game between Muslim countries and the West are different from the rules of the game between Muslim countries and China.

The West has created endless humanitarian disasters in Muslim countries, but at the same time it promotes freedom and democracy. Muslim countries criticize the West for not doing what they preach.

The Chinese have always emphasized equality between civilizations, countries, and people. I think this is what Muslim countries need, and what Muslims need.
 

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I just have to ask you this question:

Dilraba Durmat (迪丽热巴), an Uighur woman, is one of the hottest social media celebrities in China.


Is promoting an Uighur woman as a celebrity consistent with their claims?

What about promoting Uighur men as TV hosts, actors and musicians?



Have you ever heard of a minority being persecuted yet also being made into TV and music stars? Let me just ask: how many Native American TV stars are there in the US? How many Armenian, Kurdish or Greek actors are there in Turkey?
Well I'm not sure celebs mean anything because US has black celebrities, India has Muslim actors, Russia produces famous Chechen MMA fighters.

But I am definitely inclined to believe the West is overexaggerating the problem with ulterior motives. I am also not convinced about the concentration camp thing. It's bogus.

Anyways my point was for most Muslim countries relation with China is more important than the Uyghur issue. Realpolitik basically.
 

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China on Dutch Uyghur motion, EU Xinjiang invite, EU not interest in visiting
China again invites EU to visit Xinjiang, EU set the precodition that China allows EU to have full access to all prisons in Xinjiang and interview prisoners. otherwise EU won't interest in visiting.

Chinese government is so dumb in this regard, it should stop begging them to visit again and again, haters gonna hate, no matter what you do, no matter what they see.
 

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Does any country give foreigners full access to your prisons and prisoners? These demands instantly make the Chinese population think of the western powers bullying and carving China up over 100 years ago, in China we call it "A hundred years national humiilation" it's a bitter national collective memory coming back.
 

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On March 3, the BBC trotted out yet another hit piece aiming to whip up negative publicity towards northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, over China's treatment of the Uygur minority. The article, titled: "If the others go I'll go': Inside China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work," accuses China of deliberately transferring Uygurs to other areas of China with the intention to "reduce the population density" of the group. It insinuates the scheme is a plot to "destroy the culture" of the minority and groundlessly alleges them to be engaging in forced labor.

This is another piece of twisted "reporting" from the BBC, an organization that is openly collaborating with the British government to push ideological foreign policy goals. It labors to distort China's goal of economic integration and connecting the Uygur people with the rest of the country. China's development-led migration is grotesquely turned into a scheme that destroys an entire ethnic group.

The evidence provided in the piece relies on exaggeration and insinuation, completely failed at proving the claims it made. The report establishes the mantra that China's actions in the regions are "secret" or "hidden." Yet, it says that the Chinese government advertised urban jobs to Uygur population through public TV. How in the world would this be anything "secret"?

The report then says that because nobody opted to join, officials started encouraging locals, which leads to an emphasis on a young Uygur girl who eventually volunteered to go. Again, the report then proceeds to claim that "nobody volunteered" for to go to such jobs.

How could there be no volunteers when it just said that there was a volunteer? Also, how is voluntary participation in a job forced labor?

China's policies are not about attacking a cultural group.
Alienation and differentiation are two major problems that ethnic groups face when they are living within one system. In the United States, African Americans have been placed at a huge economic disadvantage. In the United Kingdom, Muslim groups are more likely to be unemployed, receive less education and become locked in cycles of poverty and alienation which in turn create radicalization. Look at the British born teenager Shamima Begum, who was born into a struggling Bangladeshi community in east London. She became radicalized as a teenager. There are many more cases like it.



A hat shop in Kashgar City, Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, northwest China. /VCG


Uygurs face similar problems too. The process of moving to urban areas is more difficult for them than for Han Chinese. Ethnic tensions and division create barriers. China's policies are about breaking those barriers down and offering Uygurs social mobility, integrating them into the greater economy by providing jobs and economic opportunities.

In Xinjiang, what the Chinese government is doing for Uygurs in urban areas is not to "reduce their population density," but to encourage involvement in the society as a whole. From 2010 to 2018, the Uygur population in Xinjiang increased from around 10 million to 12.7 million, an increase of more than 25 percent. The permanent resident population of region only grew by 13.99 percent over the same period. GDP in Xinjiang grew by 7.2 percent from 2014 to 2019, higher than the overall growth rate in China.

Yet, the BBC is smearing this as some kind of cultural eradication effort and grave evil, as if it would prefer Uygurs to be alienated and trapped in Xinjiang, lacking social mobility or opportunities and locked out of China's most prosperous cities in the east.

The BBC has persistently shown bad faith in presenting Xinjiang related issues. It has unreservedly sought to push an agenda on ideological grounds as opposed to empirical fact finding and reporting. It wants to use this issue to damage China's reputation and legitimize Western anti-China policies, creating reputational traps for Western brands by making their presence in China a liability. The malign intent of the report is evident in how it strives to draw extremely malicious conclusions out of a simple policy idea.

Irrespective of all this, China will continue to advocate economic rights, social mobility and opportunities for the Uygur people. By offering them the chance to work in the country's most prosperous cities, China is extending a lifeline to the Uygur people and helping them escape the cycle of radicalization, alienation and poverty which has beset Muslim communities throughout the West and led to terrorism and extremism.
 

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Basic education in northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region has improved significantly in recent years, and the gross enrollment and coverage rates in the first three years of preschool education have gone up substantially, vice president of Xinjiang Normal University Gulpari Abdulla said on Wednesday at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing.

Gulpari and seven other political advisors met the press via video link at an event known as the Members' Corridor ahead of the closing of the fourth session of the 13th National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC), the country's top political advisory body.

Gulpari said the education industry in Xinjiang had undergone huge changes during her 40-year career. She said that since 2016, the local authorities have been appointing cadres to support education in southern Xinjiang, imparting quality education to children from an early age and thereby playing an important role in improving the level of basic education in Xinjiang.

 

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Uyghurs leave a mosque after prayers in Hotan, a town in China’s northwest Xinjiang region, in 2019. Greg Baker/AFP/Getty Images
China’s genocide against the Uyghurs, in 4 disturbing charts
From internment camps to mass sterilization, here’s why the ethnic minority’s birthrate is plunging.
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China is responsible for an “ongoing genocide” against its Uyghur ethnic minority, according to the first independent legal analysis of the situation undertaken by a nongovernmental organization. The report, published this week by the Newlines Institute for Strategy and Policy think tank in Washington, DC, brought together the findings of 50 experts in human rights and international law.
Governments around the world are also increasingly declaring that China’s persecution of Uyghurs constitutes genocide. The United States applied that label in January, and the Canadian and Dutch parliaments followed suit in February.
It’s taken three years to get to this point. In 2018, when journalists like myself started reporting that China was putting Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities in internment camps, experts said we shouldn’t call it genocide — yet.
Though they said the camp system’s forced indoctrination and family separation may amount to cultural genocide, there wasn’t enough evidence to show that China’s actions met the United Nations’ definition of demographic genocide. Besides, advocates were having a hard enough time convincing the world that China was detaining a million people in camps without trial.

That’s changed. China’s persecution of the Uyghurs — a mostly Muslim ethnic minority that Beijing paints as a separatist and terrorist threat — is now well established. Several survivors have reported enduring torture in the camps. We’ve also learned that China transfers many of the detainees to factories across the country to perform forced labor. There’s evidence that this forced labor has leached into the global supply chain for products we all use, from companies like Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon.
The new report says that the Chinese government’s actions have violated “each and every act” prohibited by the UN Genocide Convention, namely: killing members of the group, causing serious bodily or mental harm, deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the group’s physical destruction, forcibly transferring children to another group, and imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.
Evidence that China is breaching that last prohibition has come in recent months from Uyghur testimonies as well as the Chinese government’s own statistics about Xinjiang, the northwestern region where Uyghurs are concentrated.
Take a look at this chart compiled using data from the China Statistical Yearbook (and originally tweeted by an Australian data analyst in slightly different form). The x-axis shows the year and the y-axis shows the number of births per 1,000 people. We can see that in Xinjiang, the birthrate has halved in two years.
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Adrian Zenz, a leading China scholar and senior fellow at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation in Washington, DC, added that the “natural population growth decline, which started in 2016/17, is even more shocking when you differentiate minority counties in Xinjiang from counties with a predominantly Han population.”
In a report released last summer, Zenz showed — using data from the Xinjiang Statistical Yearbooks — that between 2015 and 2018, population growth in the largely Uyghur areas of Kashgar and Hotan fell by a staggering 84 percent.
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This wasn’t only because China was splitting up Uyghur couples by sending some individuals to the camps. It was also slashing the Uyghur birthrate with the use of policies like mass sterilization and forced IUD implantation.
In 2014, a little over 200,000 IUDs were inserted in Xinjiang. That number rose to almost 330,000 IUDs by 2018 — a rise of more than 60 percent.
Meanwhile, the rates of IUD use elsewhere in China dropped, as you can see in this chart compiled using data from China’s official Annual Health and Hygiene Statistical Yearbooks. The y-axis shows the number of IUD placements per 100,000 people.
Adrian Zenz
Zenz’s report explained how the government arranged to subject women to this abusive treatment in their home communities: “Documents from 2019 reveal plans for a campaign of mass female sterilization … Xinjiang planned to subject at least 80 percent of women of childbearing age in the rural southern four minority prefectures to intrusive birth prevention surgeries (IUDs or sterilizations), with actual shares likely being much higher.”
He also pointed out that “budget figures indicate that this project had sufficient funding for performing hundreds of thousands of tubal ligation sterilization procedures in 2019 and 2020, with at least one region receiving additional central government funding.”

After Zenz published the report, the Xinjiang government denied that forced sterilization or genocide was taking place. Instead, it told CNN that the plunging birthrate was due to “comprehensive implementation of the family planning policy.” As CNN explained:
Up until 2015, the Chinese government enforced a “one-child” family planning policy countrywide, which allowed most urban couples no more than one baby. Ethnic minorities, such as the Uyghur people, were typically allowed to have up to three but Xinjiang expert Zenz said that families from these groups often had many more children.
When China officially began the two-child policy in January 2016, Uyghur citizens living in cities were limited to two children for the first time as well — their rural counterparts could still have up to three.
The Xinjiang government attributed the sudden drop in population to Beijing’s family planning policies finally being properly implemented in the region after 2017.
Although the government denied the role of forced sterilization and claimed that compliance with family planning policies is voluntary, Zenz responded that it was not very likely that “17 times more women spontaneously wanted to be sterilized.”
Take a look at this chart, compiled using data from China’s Health and Hygiene Statistical Yearbooks. The y-axis shows the number of sterilizations per 100,000 people.
Adrian Zenz
China’s own documents seem to rebut its official denials. They show that as the network of camps grew, women were threatened with internment if they violated the birth control policies for rural Uyghurs (maximum three kids per family). One government document from May 2018, cited in Zenz’s report, said that women with too many kids must “both adopt birth control measures with long-term effectiveness and be subjected to vocational skills education and training.”
In other words, they’d get sterilizations or IUDs, plus time in an internment camp.

And in fact, in Xinjiang’s “Karakax List” — a leaked government document that details the reasons why hundreds of people were interned — childbearing violations were the most commonly cited reason for internment.
Uyghur survivors speak out on reproductive and sexual violence
In recent months, several Uyghur survivors have testified that the camps themselves have become sites of sterilization by injection, forced IUD implantation, and forced abortion.
Tursunay Ziyawudun, who spent nine months inside the camp system, told the Associated Press that she was given injections and kicked repeatedly in the stomach. Now, she no longer gets her period and can’t have children. (The AP obtained Xinjiang hospital slides revealing that pregnancy prevention injections, including with Depo-Provera, are a commonly used measure for family planning.) Ziyawudun also said a “teacher” at the camp told the women that if they were found to be pregnant, they would have to get abortions.
Survivors are also coming forward with accounts of sexual abuse and torture in the camps. In new interviews obtained by the BBC, they talk about public gang rapes, about electrified sticks that are inserted into women, about male officials picking the prettiest young women and taking them to a “black room” where there are no surveillance cameras.
Ziyawudun told the BBC that in May 2018, she and a cellmate in her 20s were taken at night to separate rooms. “The woman took me to the room next to where the other girl had been taken in. They had an electric stick, I didn’t know what it was, and it was pushed inside my genital tract, torturing me with an electric shock.”
She was brought back to her cell, and later, her cellmate returned too. “The girl became completely different after that, she wouldn’t speak to anyone, she sat quietly staring as if in a trance,” Ziyawudun said. “There were many people in those cells who lost their minds.”
The interviews are hard to read. And the charts above — which show a people whose numbers are in stark decline — are hard to look at. But it’s important to witness what China is doing to its Uyghur population. It has been largely neglected by the public, yet it looms as one of the most horrifying humanitarian crises in the world today.
Perhaps one of the reasons people have turned away from this crisis is because it’s hard to know what to do about it, given China’s economic might and political power. However, there are promising US bills to keep an eye on, including a new one seeking to expedite refugee applications from Uyghurs, as well as worthy advocacy groups and schools helping Uyghurs keep their culture alive.
Watch: China’s secret internment camps




 
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Hindutvadi india is not even qualified to utter a sound against China or anyone for that matter.

Hindu fascism is the mother of all forms of fascist ideologies. Their very symbol tells the whole story.
 

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Hindutvadi india is not even qualified to utter a sound against China or anyone for that matter.

Hindu fascism is the mother of all forms of fascist ideologies. Their very symbol tells the whole story.
 

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India is a classic definition of fascism.

They sincerely believe that they are a superior race. They think they own land from Afghanistan to Tibet and all the way to Myanmar.

Now Xinjiang and Tibet are their targets with complete support from West. Hope Chinese intelligence community is well aware of this sinister plot.
Undeniably, China is committing Genocide on Uyghur Muslims
If you are an american, you are least qualified to even speak of genocide. Your very civilization is based on a undeniable genocide of the natives.
 

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