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ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

An Independent East Turkestan will be bad for Pakistan

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Beast

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There are multiple witnesses, testimonies, and independent investigations into the matter, all of which concluded that there is widespread systematic abuse within these concentration camps.

Please don't forget that even some of their own leaders were initially against the idea of incarcerating people en masse on the basis of ethnicity and religion.
Multiple witness of who? BBC and CNN found witness? Who proven to be all bogus. It's easy to stage a fake account and then pay a few to spew rubbish. Then this few paid actor or actress will be offer state welfare and pension for their cooperation in EU and America.

Only those without conscience but for benefit of monetary will then lie. Such easy money, of cos they will do it.

 

Nasr

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Are the West selling "War on China" to public Now?

1990: The story of "throwing babies" all over media, then "The First Gulf War" started ;
1999: The story of "Mass Graves" all over media, then "Bombing of Serbia" started;
2003: The story of "Weapon of Mass Destruction" all over media , then "Second Gulf War" started;
2021: The story of "Uyghur women Systematically Raped" all over media, then "War on China" follows?
That is what the people in power, in the West, are by true nature. They, the Elite that Rule the West (for the last 500 years) are the same scum, that do so today. In essence they strut themselves as benevolent, acting as the holders of morality, but in reality they are a bunch of lying, murdering, thieving, deceiving scum.
 

Rollno21

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The credibility of China is so low outside that there are no takers outside other than Chinese bots and the Pakistanies on PDF, that's the reason people buy the western narrative.
 

LeGenD

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The credibility of China is so low outside that there are no takers outside other than Chinese bots and the Pakistanies on PDF, that's the reason people buy the western narrative.
The biggest threat to American narrative are the Americans themselves. Americans are responsible for damaging their 9/11 narrative as well as their Iraqi narrative. Ponder over this.
 

PAKISTANFOREVER

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There are multiple witnesses, testimonies, and independent investigations into the matter, all of which concluded that there is widespread systematic abuse within these concentration camps.

Please don't forget that even some of their own leaders were initially against the idea of incarcerating people en masse on the basis of ethnicity and religion.




ANY credible evidence of that? If so then remember to post the links here.
 

sheik

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Not sure if this has been posted before (I am more interested in military equipment and usually only go to the Chinese Defense Forum), but here are the two reports from the Gray Zone, a more objective source, after their investigation.


All the lies from CIA (as admitted by Pompeo) and some US politicians only serve the interest of the US, some American companies, or the interest of the people themselves. Iraq being charged with non-existing WMD was only one example.
 

TMA

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Unfortunately there are well known Muslims in the UK who do a grand job of explaining and defending Islam against Liberalism, falling prey to the 'genocide against Uighurs'. Sometimes I feel that British Intelligence are guided them, but then again most likely they are not savvy when it comes to geopolitcs.
 

Vanguard One

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The Dutch parliament on Thursday passed a non-binding motion saying the treatment of the Uyghur Muslim minority in China amounts to genocide, the first such move by a European country.

Activists and United Nations rights experts say at least one million Muslims are being detained in camps in the remote western region of Xinjiang. The activists and some Western politicians accuse China of using torture, forced labor and sterilizations.

China denies any human rights abuses in Xinjiang and says its camps provide vocational training and are needed to fight extremism.

"A genocide on the Uyghur minority is occurring in China," the Dutch motion said, stopping short of directly saying that the Chinese government was responsible.

The Chinese Embassy in The Hague said on Thursday any suggestion of a genocide in Xinjiang was an "outright lie" and the Dutch parliament had "deliberately smeared China and grossly interfered in China's internal affairs."

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The frozen Hofvijver pond is seen outside the Dutch parliament buildings in The Hague, Netherlands, Tuesday, February 9.


Canada passed a non-binding resolution labeling China's treatment of the Uyghurs genocide earlier this week.

The Dutch motion said that actions by the Chinese government such as "measures intended to prevent births" and "having punishment camps" fell under United Nations Resolution 260, generally known as the genocide convention.
Prime Minister Mark Rutte's conservative VVD party voted against the resolution.


'Great concern'
Foreign Minister Stef Blok said the government did not want to use the term genocide, as the situation has not been declared as such by the United Nations or by an international court.

"The situation of the Uyghurs is a cause of great concern", Blok told reporters after the motion was passed, adding that the Netherlands hoped to work with other nations on the matter.

The author of the motion, lawmaker Sjoerd Sjoerdsma of the centre-left D-66 Party, has separately proposed lobbying the International Olympic Committee to move the 2022 Winter Olympics away from Beijing.

"Recognizing the atrocities that are taking place against the Uyghurs in China for what they are, namely genocide, prevents the world from looking the other way and forces us into action," he told Reuters in an emailed response to questions.

In a statement on its website, the Chinese Embassy in The Hague said the Uyghur population in Xinjiang has been growing in in recent years, enjoying a higher standard of living, and a longer life expectancy.

"How can you call this a genocide?" it said. "Xinjiang-related issues are never about human rights, ethnicity or religion, but about combating violent terrorism and secession."

China's ambassador to the United Nations in Geneva accused Western powers on Wednesday of using the Uyghur issue to meddle in his country's internal affairs.

 

Beast

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The EU want to play political and we will give them one! We will involved trade and business.


Why genocide like Kashmir is ignored and only talk about Xinjiang? If the EU are really righteous, I will salute them. But fact is, these hypocrite are selective in targeting things only to do with threat of their western imperialism due to the rise of China that will change how western influence on the world.
 

Dalit

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The world doesn't take Western claims of genocide serious.
The EU want to play political and we will give them one! We will involved trade and business.


Why genocide like Kashmir is ignored and only talk about Xinjiang? If the EU are really righteous, I will salute them. But fact is, these hypocrite are selective in targeting things only to do with threat of their western imperialism due to the rise of China that will change how western influence on the world.
These Westerners have double standards.
 

Beast

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The world doesn't take Western claims of genocide serious.


These Westerners have double standards.
If killing a million Uyghur can halt the rise of Chinese. These hypocrite Dutch will not hesitate to do it. Anybody who think these imperialism Dutch really care about Uyghur well-being need to get their head check.
 

313ghazi

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Hypocrites. They will talk to make it look like they care, but nothing will beat the bottom line. They will beg to trade with China. Despite being immensely wealthy they cannot put thier money where thier mouth is.
 
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Interesting. Even the US state department has stated that it is legally impossible to prove genocide is occurring in Xinjiang. What evidence does the Netherlands have to make this assertion?
 

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