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    AJK opposes giving provincial status to GB
    TARIQ NAQASH



    MUZAFFARABAD: Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK) Prime Minister Chaudhry Abdul Majeed warned the federal government on Wednesday against any attempt to convert Gilgit-Baltistan into a province of Pakistan.

    “Gilgit-Baltistan is part and parcel of the state of Jammu and Kashmir. Any attempt to merge it into Pakistan will deal a fatal blow to our stand in the light of UN resolutions envisaging right to self-determination for the Kashmiris,” he said at a press conference here.

    Of late, some Kashmiri leaders have expressed concern over alleged moves to convert GB into the fifth province of Pakistan. On Tuesday, AJK President Sardar Mohammad Yaqoob Khan warned that such a step would be more damaging than the dismemberment of the country in 1971.

    “I call upon the prime minister of Pakistan to avoid (taking) any decision that does not fall in his jurisdiction. He cannot take this decision unless we, the people of Jammu and Kashmir, take it,” Mr Majeed said.

    Recalling that GB had been given in the administrative control of Pakistan on a temporary basis, he advised the federal government not to think beyond that.

    “On behalf of over 17.5 million Kashmiris, I warn you (Islamabad) to change your thoughts. Or else, there will be severe reaction,” he said.

    Answering a question, he said it was the responsibility of the AJK parliamentary committee to seek consent of the prime minister of Pakistan and the minister for Kashmir affairs in order to carry out constitutional amendments “smoothly and amicably”.

    He said he had asked the committee’s chairman, Matloob Inqilabi, and Leader of the Opposition in the AJK Legislative Assembly, Raja Farooq Haider, to talk to the federal government in this regard.

    Mr Majeed said the role and responsibilities of the government of Pakistan under the UNCIP (United Nations Commission for India and Pakistan) resolutions should not be negated. “With this in mind, there is no harm in talking to them,” he said.

    Mr Majeed admitted that excessive loadshedding in AJK was a serious issue.

    He said Minister for Power Khawaja Asif had agreed to his suggestion that AJK should be allocated its quota of electricity....

    Kashmiri PM stops work on Kohala hydroelectric project until signing of agreements
    “However, that’s yet to happen and we will have to talk to the federal government once again on this issue… The loadshedding issue has to be resolved because we cannot afford it,” he said.

    With a visible sense of helplessness, he repeatedly said that AJK should be exempted from loadshedding.

    The AJK premier also disclosed that he had stopped work on the proposed Kohala hydroelectric project.

    “No official can step in that area unless they resolve the Mangla water use charge issue and sign agreements on (the under-construction) Neelum-Jhelum Hydroelectric Project (NJHP) and (the proposed) Kohala project and clear our liabilities,” he said.

    “They did try to change my opinion but I have refused,” he added, in an apparent reference to the federal government.

    Mr Majeed said the NJHP had been initiated before he had taken over as premier and his predecessors should have signed the agreement about it.

    He said the road infrastructure in AJK was also badly suffering because of these power projects and the issue needed to be addressed by the Water and Power Development Authority.

    He said that AJK’s voter lists were more than four decades old and had to be prepared afresh to hold fair and transparent general elections.

    Regarding the appointment of the AJK chief election commissioner, he said it was the prerogative of the president.

    He said the recruitment process for policemen had been cancelled because of complaints about its transparency.

    “We will now ask the national testing service to conduct recruitment for us,” he said.

    Published in Dawn, July 9th, 2015
     
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    Well this is something the people of GB and people of AJK should sort out, No need to do politics over it.

    I personally think this matter should be resolved via referendum in GB. If they want to make a province then the people of AJK should not object to it.
     
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    GB should be made a province, period. I don't understand this concern. GB deserves to be given a provincial status, it's been a long time coming.
    No Senate NA representation, Legislative assembly has no power, a complete joke. High time Gilgitis get a status they so richly deserve.
     
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    You have no idea what you're talking about, mirpuris are only in mirpur which one district, and they are ethnically same as all people of AJK, they pahri speakers and culturally distinct from people from IoK, they are native to their land since centuries and thousands of years, AJK was called Poonch before 1948
     
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    Classical case of off topic post. :lol:
     
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    Like you had posted some on-topic posts. :lol:
     
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    Well my post was very much on topic.
     
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    And my post is as well.
     
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    GB and other J&K region are disputed territory.
    If Pakistan declare it a province then India will declare J&K it's province.
    So the Kashmir liberation will become impossible.

    :D superb.
     
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    Historically GB was never a part of J and K state. It is an unfortunate case that GB is associated with this issue.
    Even then i don't really care. A better status will do too. Note: under current status GB has no representation in NA and Senate and Legislative assembly has no power. Center in power. People in the region not really given their political right.
     
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    Yes it was not part of J&K before 1856.
    Actually it was occupied by Dogra rulers included state of Poonch.
    At the time of partition GB and Poonch became a part of Kashmir.
     
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    Indians as usual have derailed the thread.

    The PM of AJK have literally no business here. He is just trying to do politics over here. He is just trying to make the issue controversial just because he has few issues with the Federal Govt.

    The best solution to resolve this issue will be to do a referendum in GB and if say that they want a new province then GB should be made a Province.
     
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    The state of GB was ruled by dogras, yes. Historically it was not a part of Kashmir. At the time of partition? what do you mean.
    HUNZA DEVELOPMENT FORUM: STATUS OF GILGIT AND BALTISTAN
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    The Northern Areas of Pakistan consist of six districts, viz. Gilgit, Skardu, Diamir, Ghizer, ,Ghanche and Astore, Its population is around 1,5 million and it spreads over a vast area of 72,495 sq. Km.

    • Historically, the Treaties of Lahore and Amritsar of 1846, which constitute the basic documents regarding the establishment of the State of Jammu and Kashmir, do not recognize its territorial limits on the areas westwards of the River Indus. The whole of Northern Areas, which include Gilgit Agency and Baltistan Agency, was not a part of Jammu and Kashmir State in August 1947.

    • The States of Hunza and Nagar were never treated as part of Jammu and Kashmir. They were autonomous states but nominally under the suzerainty of the Dogra ruler. Hunza and Nagar acceded to Pakistan and the instrument of accession signed by the Mirs (rulers) of these states was accepted by the Quaid-e-Azam in 1947.

    • The UNCIP resolutions are also relative to the State of Jammu and Kashmir and do not, in any manner, apply to any part of the Northern Areas which were not included in the State of Jammu and Kashmir before 1947 From this perspective, integration of the Northern Areas with Pakistan is also not prohibited.
     
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    Yes because of Dogra rule and GB was liberated from Dogras in year 1949.
    In November 1839: Beginning of the campaign of Zorawar Singh against Baltistan. 1839/1840: Conquest of Skardu and capture of Ahmad Shah. Ahmad Shah was forced to accompany Zorawar Singh on his raid into Western Tibet. Appointment of Baghwan Singh as administrator (Thanadar) in Skardu. 1841: Successful uprising against the Dogras in Baltistan led by Ali Khan of Rondu, Haidar Khan of Shigar, and Daulat Ali Khan from Khaplu. Capture of the Dogra commander Baghwan Singh in Skardu. 1842: The second conquest of Baltistan by the Dogra Commander Wasir Lakhpat with the active support of Ali Sher Khan (III) from lKartaksho. Bloody capture of the fortress of Kharphocho. Haidar Khan from Shigar, one of the leaders of the uprising against the Dogra, was imprisoned and died in captivity. Gosaun was appointed as administrator (Thanadar) for Baltistan and til 1860, the entire region of Gilgit-Baltistan was conquered by the Sikhs and the Dogras. It was the Dogras who incorporated Gilgit-Baltistan into Kashmir even though the people of the region are more closely related to those of Ladakh and Chitral.After the defeat of the Sikhs in the First Anglo-Sikh War, it became a part of the princely state with the name Jammu and Kashmir in 1846 under the rule of the Dogras who ruled the more than a century. It remained so till a rebellion, organized by a mutineered Major Brown of the Gilgit Scouts overthrew Ghansara Singh, the Governor administering the region on behalf of the Maharaja of Jammu and Kashmir on 1 November 1947, and temporarily installed an unrecognized state of their own. Raja Shah Rais Khan became the President while Mirza Hassan Khan the Commander-in-Chief of the Gilgit scouts. The region had run its own government for 16 days but later on the approval of local residents, unconditionally offered Pakistan to take over the administration. Also After Pakistan's independence, Jammu and Kashmir initially remained an independent state. Later On 22 October 1947, due to India's interest towards the Muslim majority state of Jammu and Kashmir, Pakistani armed forces crossed the border in Jammu and Kashmir with the claim that they needed to suppress a rebellion on the southeast of the kingdom. Local tribal militias and the Pakistani armed forces moved to take Srinagar but on reaching Uri they encountered defensive forces. Hari Singh made a plea to India for assistance and signed the Instrument of Accession. The British government also took part in stopping the Pakistani forces from advancing. On 20 January 1948, the UN passed a resolution which called for the withdrawal of both countries forces from Jammu and Kashmir, however a part of it (Known as Azad Kashmir) has remained under the control of Pakistan since then. In 1970 the two part territory was merged into a single administrative unit, and given the name "Northern Areas". This was actually first used by the United Nations to refer to the northern areas of Kashmir. The Shaksgam tract was ceded by Pakistan to China following the signing of the Sino-Pakistani Frontier Agreement in 1963.

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    The last Maqpon Raja Ahmed Shah (died in prison in Srinagar by Dograrulers. around 1845)
    Before the demise of Shribadat, a group of Shin people migrated from Gilgit Dardistan and settled in the Dras and Kharmang areas. The descendants of those Dardic people can be still found today, and is believed that they have maintained their Dardic culture and Shina language up to the present time.
     
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    You are from GB?