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Aircraft carrier Liaoning vs Vikramaditya

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  1. Maleesh

    Maleesh FULL MEMBER

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    What is the best Aircraft carrier?
    both are ex Soviet vessels, and undergone furbishment in Ukraine and Russia.

    Liaoning Aircraft Carrier is Admiral Kuznetsov Class
    While Vikramaditiya is a modified Kiev class carrier

    And Liaoning plans to operate over 55 aircraft with J-15, Su-27k, Ka-31, Z-8
    While vikramaditya plans to operate over 30 aircraft with Mig 29k, Ka-31, HAL Dhruv

    And planned armament of Liaoning are,
    - 4 x 18 cell FL-3000N (72 missiles)
    - 3 x 30mm Type 1030 CIWS
    - 2 x 240mm ASW launchers (10 barrels ea)
    - 4 x Decoy/Chaff (24 barrels ea)

    While Vikramaditiyas armaments are,
    - 3 X 24 SA-N-9 SAM
    - 4 X 32 CADS-N-1 SAM/CIWS
    - 4 X AK-630 30mm CIWS
    -2 X 12 ASW RBU-6000

    And both carriers have 2 elevators.
    And Liaoning can operate under 2,500crew and Vikramaditiya can operate under 2,000crew.

    and about the displacement Liaoning has 65,000t and Vikramaditya has only 45,000t.
     
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    All aboard?
    Next stop my basement.
    Let the Di$k measuring contest begin.
     
  3. Maleesh

    Maleesh FULL MEMBER

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    If any detail is mistaken please forgive me and any suggestion will be appreciated
     
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    isro2222 FULL MEMBER

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    @Maleesh its not in size And shape of the AC.... its what on it.... Indian AC will have latest technology and deadly weapons.... Plus lots of experience....
     
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    In before the trolls. This thread isn't going to go well.
     
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    on paper vikramaditya is lacking.
     
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    About the experience I agree with you IN has tons of experience in operating aircraft carriers.But when it comes to tech I think Vikramaditiya is bit lagging.
     
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    It is hard to say which one is better, but one thing in favor of Liaoning is it an carry more aircrafts and helis.
     
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    yeah, dats why I intend to start a thread like this. the known capabilities of both carriers are limited.

    yeah Lioaning can carry upto 24 combat aircraft and Vikramaditya can carry upto 16 combat aircraft
     
  10. BigDaddyWatch

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    CV-16 Liaoning
    304,5m
    72m
    10,5m
    67500 ton
    30 knots
    2200 crew
    24 Shenyang J-15

    VS.

    INS Vikaramditya
    283,5m
    59,8m
    9,5m
    45400 ton
    29 knots
    1600 crew
    16 MiG-29K Fulcrum-D
     
  11. Maleesh

    Maleesh FULL MEMBER

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    information on both vessels you've given is before refit
     
  12. veekysingh

    veekysingh FULL MEMBER

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    seems like u already understand everything , then why the hack u opened this troll thread?

    :hitwall: before refit vikaramaditya wasnt a carrier.
     
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    No, after the refits. The dimension's of the Liaoning didn't change from the original Kuznetsov class, China has only got rid of all the weapons systems on the Varyag. That didn't change the full displacement or the length or width of the ship.

    As for the Vikaramaditya here are the dimension's of the Admiral Gorshkov

    Admiral Gorshkov
    273m
    51,9m
    9,42m
    45400 ton
    32 knots
    1600 crew
    12 Yak-38 Forger

    Soviet aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    P.S. I don't think that the Vikramaditya is coming from Russia with any CIWS systems on it. I have heard that India is planning to fit the ship with Israeli made barak systems after 2017. Can someone confirm this ?
     
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    but the crew is extended heavily must be upto 2600
     
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    Both the Carriers are different in specifications just as the respective Navies have different capabilities and experience of operating carriers.
    Where Aircraft Carriers are concerned, their air-wings are more important than just the ships themselves. So that is where the operational abilities of the air-wings become important. Paper specifications are less important.
    All that said; PLAN has clearly stated that Varyag (Liaoning) is a training carrier to create a sea-borne air-wing of the future.